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    Thermalution Yellow grade heated vest

    Not so much directly rebreather related - but Id figure I would ask. I almost bought one of these over the last few years. With run times on this site being typically longer than others - I wonder if this demographic of divers has any experience with the Thermalution Yellow.


    I came close when it came out - then waited until the signal problem between the controll and vest were fixed - and they seem to be all sorted out.


    Anyone have real life experience?

    Also - anyone have concerns about the battery burning you inside your drysuit - or is this basically a non issue/non concern. For the record Ive found zero issues of this happening - but a few people commented on other forums that it is their concern. "scared of a ghost" type thinking.

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    Re: Thermalution Yellow grade heated vest

    I have had one for over a year. One of the best things I have ever invested in. It has allowed me to significantly reduce the bulk under my dry suit and as a result lose weight off my belt whilst staying warm.

    I have used it down to 10 degree water wearing only a tee shirt and a full length Lavacore under a Hollis FX100.

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    Re: Thermalution Yellow grade heated vest

    Quote Originally Posted by marshall8hp  View Original Post
    I have had one for over a year. One of the best things I have ever invested in. It has allowed me to significantly reduce the bulk under my dry suit and as a result lose weight off my belt whilst staying warm.

    I have used it down to 10 degree water wearing only a tee shirt and a full length Lavacore under a Hollis FX100.

    Great feedback - Thanks!

    Water here is starting to get cold and Im probably not pulling the boat until Jan so Im thinking about one for the lsat 2 months of the season.

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    Re: Thermalution Yellow grade heated vest

    Like the American Express, we don't leave home without it!

    We use ours for almost one year now - wet and dry. Truly, an investment I don't regret making. Well worth it!

    Add Helium is offering 10% off right now.

    Here is a copy of their promo:

    Heated Vests?

    Thermalution's line of heated vests has exploded with their ultra-light, ultra-durable design, and long duration warmth. The wireless design may be used with drysuits or wetsuits.

    Need some convincing? For the next 14 days, use coupon code "chilly" at checkout for 10% off any Thermalution vest set.
    Contact us and see what package deals we can offer you, on any combination of exposure protection.


    Add Helium phone number: 239-300-0913

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    Re: Thermalution Yellow grade heated vest

    Quote Originally Posted by dreamdive  View Original Post
    Like the American Express, we don't leave home without it!

    We use ours for almost one year now - wet and dry. Truly, an investment I don't regret making. Well worth it!

    Add Helium is offering 10% off right now.

    Here is a copy of their promo:

    Heated Vests?

    Thermalution's line of heated vests has exploded with their ultra-light, ultra-durable design, and long duration warmth. The wireless design may be used with drysuits or wetsuits.

    Need some convincing? For the next 14 days, use coupon code "chilly" at checkout for 10% off any Thermalution vest set.
    Contact us and see what package deals we can offer you, on any combination of exposure protection.

    Add Helium phone number: 239-300-0913
    Great! Thank You.

    Have you used it dry? Im getting heat from people for considering it. Some are saying that wet its fine, but dry its an accident waiting to happen. I cant find a single dissatisfied user - but this "perception" is out there.

    So - do you use it under a drysuit and are you at all concerned about not being able to get to it if needed in an emergency (to turn it off, etc).

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    Re: Thermalution Yellow grade heated vest

    I dive mine dry.

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    Re: Thermalution Yellow grade heated vest

    Quote Originally Posted by manni-yunk  View Original Post
    Great! Thank You.

    Have you used it dry? Im getting heat from people for considering it. Some are saying that wet its fine, but dry its an accident waiting to happen. I cant find a single dissatisfied user - but this "perception" is out there.

    So - do you use it under a drysuit and are you at all concerned about not being able to get to it if needed in an emergency (to turn it off, etc).
    Both Peter and I dive ours dry, too. Actually we mostly dive dry and this allows us to wear less undergarment.

    Now I read the concern about burns. And, it is a legitimate concern. I do NOT wear the vest on my skin when I am dry! I have a wicking shirt on, the vest, and maybe a thinner outer shirt.

    When you dive wet, there is enough waterflow over your back that prevents overheating of your skin. There I wear the vest directly on the skin (first layer).

    We just got back from the Pit and dove the lower rooms at 380 ft. No issues!

    Claudia

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    Re: Thermalution Yellow grade heated vest

    Quote Originally Posted by dreamdive  View Original Post
    Both Peter and I dive ours dry, too. Actually we mostly dive dry and this allows us to wear less undergarment.

    Now I read the concern about burns. And, it is a legitimate concern. I do NOT wear the vest on my skin when I am dry! I have a wicking shirt on, the vest, and maybe a thinner outer shirt.

    When you dive wet, there is enough waterflow over your back that prevents overheating of your skin. There I wear the vest directly on the skin (first layer).

    We just got back from the Pit and dove the lower rooms at 380 ft. No issues!

    Claudia
    Thank you Claudia for your input.

    Im am also now sorry for having asked this question on the other site. Im not well plugged into the politics of the CCR world.....and hopefully never will be. Im more interested in the training, options, dives,etc.......But the politics part........well, Ill leave it at that!

    Usually, since I run my own boat, I dont get into these questions, debates, etc -I try to stay under the radar, but with the change from OC to CCR - I find myself asking a lot of questions. My style of learning is to ask - then challenge even if I believe the answer....just to see if the answer holds up.

    Unfortunately that seems to have caused a little "contraversy" and disrespect from someone and that was never my intention.

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    Thermalution Yellow grade heated vest

    I'll repost this my post here from Scubaboard for you to read as well.

    Well, having owned and used one of these for two years of which I've only gotten about 20 dives out of it as it didn't work. The first I couldn't turn it on with the remote, second the batteries died after 3 dives. Right now it seems to be working. Out of a big group of divers I know here, there maybe two that haven't had issues with the vest.

    I know of one diver here whom got a pretty bad burn on her back from it, blister/etc from faulty wires in the vest. How do I know this was for sure, well I was in a relationship with her at the time and saw the blistered burn.

    Another friends basically melted while being charged. Thankfully he wasn't wearing it. Turns out the wires shorted in the vest. This is one of my good friends.

    Most issues have been batteries not working or charging. This is quite common. This was pretty much everyone I know with one of these

    Granted, all were taken care of by the distributor/manufacture and usually there is lots of issues with newish type products

    With regards to heat, the heat from the suit is on the back of the vest. They use some sort of wiring that gives of a far infrared heat? Think that's the name, anyways the wiring used is quite large and pronounced, putting it on the front of the vest will result in pushing the wires into your skin from the drysuit compressing. This can facilitate getting a Burn. So to compensate for this they put it on the back so it is not being compressed. Sadly with the heating pad being in the back I tend to not be as warm and my chest/kidneys get cold.

    What I do is flip it around to the front and only use it if I get chilled. Otherwise I risk getting a burn. I've warn it on for two hours and I had red marks in my chest from the battery for hours on low heat and turning it off and on . I still wear it this way as the heat in the front is a lot nicer and keeps me warmer on deco if I need it., I just tend to wear a thicker undershirt now to give me a bit more protection.

    Now would I buy another one of these?

    Nope, the only reason I did was it got the gf and me into one for less then the price of a santi system and battery pack. If I only bought one I'd have never seen it as we all know. It would have mysteriously made its way into the her basket under its own power obviously ;).

    The reasons to choose an external battery over the thermulation system are as follows:

    1. if there is an issue with the batteries/not being able to shut the power off to the system can result in some serious burns. With a external
    Pack you just unplug, the thermalutions your screwed. I've had a remote that wouldn't communicate with my vest to turn it off our on, that was a very hot dive when I got the best in but it wouldn't turn off.

    2. If the batteries begin to short out/etc one can easily jettison and external battery supply off their person underwater, try doing that with the batteries in your drysuit. Granted the batteries are sealed and meant to be submerged but that doesn't guarantee anything these days as qc with a lot of companies is horrible.

    3. There have been way to many issues with these vests. Even from the new generations. I know a lot of people whom have these none are overly happy with them. I know a few dealers outside of my area that refuse to sell the yellow grade vests due to all the issues and returns.

    4. The remote is depth limited to 300 feet. Or was that 200? Anyone doing serious dives or dives deeper then this when your going to likely incur more then 15-20mjns of deco has lost the ability to turn the vest on, thereby making the vest useless. What's that you say, clip it off on the up line? Sure but what if I can't make it back to the up line.

    5. Inability to plug the heated vest into an off board source, scooter, extra battery pack, etc. many use the scooter or battery packs from camera lights to power these vests.

    The thermulation vests provide good heat and are a great starting point to get into heated gear. That being said, they are an entry to low-mid level product that covers a certain area of diving. Keep in mind these were/are designed for wetsuit diving. They have been adopted for drysuits, which is not their intended use.

    The santi or other systems mitigate/relieve a lot of the issues I mentioned above and with tech diving one has to be able to handle issues under the water., we cannot just go to the surface as we may have long decompression obligations. That being said those vests have their own issues and I know people whom have been burnt by them as well. Also they don't allow one to control the heat level without putting in more controls/wiring (drawing a blank on the name). The heating elements in the others seem to be a lot less prone to digging into the skin(tape/fabric) when worn with the heating elements on the front, and they provide the heating in the vital areas (chest and kidneys). That alone is a major selling point.

    One thing to keep in mind Is if planning your dives around heated gear, stop and rethink what your doing. I'd suggest buying better undergarments prior to buying heated gear. The heated gear should only be used to augment your diving not keep you warm in the entire dive. Most of use just use it during deco to help with the off gassing. If your using heated gear in temperatures above 50f or 12c, you really need to look at better undergarments and more layers.

    That's my two cents on it and I'm busy putting together a system here for the winter months and colder/longer dives.

    Whatever you choose to do, make sure you look at the pros and cons for both and chose what will suit your needs as a diver and budget. Either option will provide you with heat, however they are completely systems., meant for completely different diving.

    Happy dives


    Regards

    Steve
    Last edited by aaen; 10th October 2015 at 15:26.

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    Re: Thermalution Yellow grade heated vest

    if you plan a long / deep dive and at the end the batt. is dead.. ore an other failer
    how are you going to do your long deco , wearing almost no underwear?

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