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    Re: Scootering and back pain

    Quote Originally Posted by DwayneJ  View Original Post
    Tow cord length and positioning is critical. Don't want to be fighting the unit when under tow.
    When I first jump in, I immediately think my tow cord is too long until I stretch out, and it all falls into place.
    I second that. I used to have that back pain whether I dove OC/Classic Kiss or Meg.
    I took me some time to figure out the length of the crotch strap (positionning the Dring) and the length of the tow cord.
    Getting neutral is the other key point as others said.
    Practice, trial and error is your best bet to find the right combination for you.
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    Re: Scootering and back pain

    Quote Originally Posted by w ripley  View Original Post
    Assuming you are using a tow rope & crotch strap to transfer the load, you might check that you are keeping your wings inflated enough to lift your body and take the load off your back. You do have to stop every so often and check that you are neutral, or you will put a lot of strain on you and on your scooter, as you will be using it for your buoyancy.

    If you find that you are riding with the scooter pulling down or with it pulling you up, then you need to stop and get neutral again. However, a 30 minute continuous ride will put a lot of strain on you no matter how well you're squared away.
    Hi mate, many thans for your ideas, i have to check indeed my buoyancy, because i only use my dy suit to keep me neutral, that seems to be a mistake,

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    Re: Scootering and back pain

    Quote Originally Posted by jukkao  View Original Post
    Just use it >30 min/day and you will be ok. Find a way to do it so that you can relax and just enjoy. With high power you may need special harness, torgue compensation and light leg trim.

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    Re: Scootering and back pain

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris  View Original Post
    Get a three point crotch strap from DiveXtras.

    I also used to get a really sore back and found it was from bending my back when scootering to stop getting castrated.



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    Many Thanks for the link, that looks like a good solution, i will try it.

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    Re: Scootering and back pain

    Quote Originally Posted by Pawel Szopinski  View Original Post
    This has always been a problem for me and I need a stand or a longer can to sit on my ass instead. Regardless whether I am scootering or not.
    Yep a stand is on the way....

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    Markuu have someone video you while,scootering. That way you will see your real position in the water. I started having back pain even without the scooter...

    My problemmis the stages., are you using an armadillo harness? I thought about removing it to check out.

    Also another point would be that we are getting older and not keeping fit as before. I used to scooter for 1-2 hours, long distances and was ok.

    This is another reason i was thinking about a lighter rebreather....

    Let me know what changes u did and how it felt

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    Re: Scootering and back pain

    Quote Originally Posted by Outlaw  View Original Post
    Markuu have someone video you while,scootering. That way you will see your real position in the water. I started having back pain even without the scooter...

    My problemmis the stages., are you using an armadillo harness? I thought about removing it to check out.

    Also another point would be that we are getting older and not keeping fit as before. I used to scooter for 1-2 hours, long distances and was ok.

    This is another reason i was thinking about a lighter rebreather....

    Let me know what changes u did and how it felt
    HI Mate,

    i have installed a stand for the meg, that helped a lot, have tryed a seperate srotch strap, no change with the back pain, at the moment i do while riding a get to used my stomach muscles to stabilized my pelvis and so my back, but this very exhausting, but it work...

    I don`t use an armadillo or something like that, and i don`t think that i am getting OLDER, i am getting very interesting.........

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    Re: Scootering and back pain

    I do lot and long DPV dives with RB+2 stages (sometimes more) and also in SM OC.
    I can tell you that not only been neutral but TRIMMED on the water is the clue.
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    the video is call: Tow cord is too short.

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    Re: Scootering and back pain

    Quote Originally Posted by Pawel Szopinski  View Original Post
    This has always been a problem for me and I need a stand or a longer can to sit on my ass instead. Regardless whether I am scootering or not.
    Concur.

    I am rather tall, and Classic Kiss is short.

    The stand (Narked at 90 in my case) makes a real difference for the backpain, with or without scooter.

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    Re: Scootering and back pain

    ... and if none of the above recommendations help enough, shifting a little extra air into the lower legs of your drysuit will do wonders for your back while scootering. Just remember it is there when it is time to stop.

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