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    meg vs jj-ccr

    Hey gyus i was hoping you could help me out here . what os best and what not when you put the meg op vs the jj-ccr
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    Re: meg vs jj-ccr

    After 4 years of diving my meg i can say i had no problems, i have done wreck,cave and deep dives, i fall down a few steps with the meg on my back, the tiger gears come up arround 2 cm but the meg functionally perfect during 2 hour cave dive, the machine is very robust and easy to dive, but you have OTSCL, and the radial cost you 650 US$ extra (from GG) and the BOV is expensive too (don`t have one) but never ever i would buy a JJ, for me (and this is only my opinion) the meg is the way to go, next step is the Ouroboros, but this is another story,...

    When you have the possible do try dives and then make your decision,...
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    Re: meg vs jj-ccr

    Their seems to be a few post on the net comparing the meg and the JJ-CCR, in my opinion they are different in quite a few ways, small details that make a big difference but both great rebreathers.

    The meg has a completely redundant backup handset that can be wired to a dive computer at an extra cost for live deco were the JJ-CCR just has a hud and runs using shearwater for primary controller. I never needed the additional handsets in over 900hrs on the meg or the hun on the JJ in over 200 but nice to have piece of mind.

    The counter lung design of the JJ-CCR is true back mounted giving the chest free like OC, this suits diving dry and overheads great and was the reason I switched to the JJ-CCR, The meg options a manta lung that is shoulder mounted but restricts diver a bit.

    The JJ-CCR has options for scrubber same as meg neither publish the data i need to really use them in the real world but around 3 hrs for axial and radial for 5hrs under CE.

    They are both modular in design allowing multiple tank configurations and easy travel.

    The JJ-CCR international addition comes with a BOV included the meg BOV is extra on all options but does have solid Apeks internals.

    The JJ runs a shearwater as primary controller so you get built in decompression, the meg has this option but it a 1,500usd upgrade from standard config at time of order

    Both rigs have easy options to plug in off-board gases.

    The JJ-CCR has a sweet base stand and carry handle design for gearing up sand attaching stages and gear when diving.

    Both manufactures provide excellent factory support.

    The cruncher seems to be on price the JJ-CCR international addition with BOV, wing, harness (No tanks) is 6790 euro

    The meg is $8,875.00 or approx 6656 but then you pay around 900usd for the BOV, the manta and shearwater both then add around 1700usd so ball park depending a=on scrubber and can design around 11,500usd or 8600euro and does not include a wing.

    The training I offer on both units cost the same and takes the same amount of time for mod1


    a consideration would be were in the world you live for factory service and what rigs to your buddies dive to share spare. In my opinion you would not be disappointed with either unit.
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    Re: meg vs jj-ccr

    JJ= very good machine!
    Meg= better machine!!

    Just my .02$

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpement  View Original Post

    Just my .02$
    Yes but worth every penny. Thanks Mike.
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    Re: meg vs jj-ccr

    I have owned several CCR including Inspo rEvo KISS and now the JJ but the Meg has never even been on my wish list.

    Because? Front mounted lungs dont apeal, Its heavy for transport, having to take the head off to switch it on is a PITA, America is too expensive and too dificult to send stuff too for repairs (I know I had a Hammer Head)

    If i lived in the USA didnt mind front mount lungs and didnt mind the weight of a stripped meg? Id get one with a Shearwater unit on it.

    The JJ is better for me and it comes with a Shearwater as standard.

    The HUD is totaly independent in all but the cells and I can put a KISS valve on it to cover the electronics if they fail so the JJ comes out tops

    Your in the EU? So the JJ wins hands down

    Only thing about the JJ i think is week is the JJ BOV. I just swaped my one for a Golum Shrimp.


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    Re: meg vs jj-ccr

    The meg seems like a nice unit. I ended up with a JJ, mainly due to logistics. Denmark is reasonably close, there's a local instructor and it works well with the diving I want to do. Mark listed the reasons well enough.

    Seeing as you actually live in Denmark and have the manufacturer next doors I would definitely go with the JJ. With a choice of shipping across the Atlantic or within the country that alone would make the decision for me.

    So far I've got a massive 35 hours rebreather experience but I'm quite pleased with the JJ. It's by no means perfect but to me none of the other units seem to be perfect either. It works well in the cold (-25 C this morning, good day to dive), travels well and nothing has broken so far.

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    Re: meg vs jj-ccr

    In terms of workmanship both units are excellent.

    I decided for a JJ because:
    * very nice buildt
    * back mounted counterlungs
    * love the ease of shearwater electronics
    * developer and keypersons in europe(Swiss,UK & Denmark) at hand
    * strong & enhusiastic base of users in Europe

    What I didn't like on the Meg:
    * front mounted counterlungs
    * one has to remove the head to turn on the electronics
    (I dont like to open a pos/neg tested unit just before the dive)
    * special batteriepacks needed to operate

    BR
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    Re: meg vs jj-ccr

    Quote Originally Posted by tecdivertraining  View Original Post
    Their seems to be a few post on the net comparing the meg and the JJ-CCR, in my opinion they are different in quite a few ways, small details that make a big difference but both great rebreathers.

    The meg has a completely redundant backup handset that can be wired to a dive computer at an extra cost for live deco were the JJ-CCR just has a hud and runs using shearwater for primary controller. I never needed the additional handsets in over 900hrs on the meg or the hun on the JJ in over 200 but nice to have piece of mind.

    The counter lung design of the JJ-CCR is true back mounted giving the chest free like OC, this suits diving dry and overheads great and was the reason I switched to the JJ-CCR, The meg options a manta lung that is shoulder mounted but restricts diver a bit.

    The JJ-CCR has options for scrubber same as meg neither publish the data i need to really use them in the real world but around 3 hrs for axial and radial for 5hrs under CE.

    They are both modular in design allowing multiple tank configurations and easy travel.

    The JJ-CCR international addition comes with a BOV included the meg BOV is extra on all options but does have solid Apeks internals.

    The JJ runs a shearwater as primary controller so you get built in decompression, the meg has this option but it a 1,500usd upgrade from standard config at time of order

    Both rigs have easy options to plug in off-board gases.

    The JJ-CCR has a sweet base stand and carry handle design for gearing up sand attaching stages and gear when diving.

    Both manufactures provide excellent factory support.

    The cruncher seems to be on price the JJ-CCR international addition with BOV, wing, harness (No tanks) is 6790 euro

    The meg is $8,875.00 or approx 6656 but then you pay around 900usd for the BOV, the manta and shearwater both then add around 1700usd so ball park depending a=on scrubber and can design around 11,500usd or 8600euro and does not include a wing.

    The training I offer on both units cost the same and takes the same amount of time for mod1


    a consideration would be were in the world you live for factory service and what rigs to your buddies dive to share spare. In my opinion you would not be disappointed with either unit.
    Really good illustrated Matthew

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