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    .... what just happened?

    I still have to perfect this but here is a draft

    October 20'th, 2011

    It has been a while since I have asked myself the not so popular question "what just happened?"

    Today was one of those days.

    As usual in life when things happen, they happen fast. Things are playing out the way things will play out, but this was so darn weird I thought you find it interesting. Last week I had a couple of beers but aside from that it has been life in the park. In August I had a weird blood pressure 140 over 90.

    This is unusual for me. I have always been a 120 over 82-guy. On the other hand that lasted for decades. Also, August here is hot 95 F. The work is physical, your body ph. gets messed up and your drinking two liters of water a day before one, so I did not think much of it. Mistake.

    No exotic pharmacology, sat down in a kitchen chair at four and fell, mid-sentence into a deep state of unconsciousness. This lasted about thirty seconds. I woke to Liz screaming my name and shaking me still in the chair. I assumed that I had just worked myself into exhaustion and had fallen asleep and went to lie down. Mistake.

    Had dinner and a quite evening watching tv? Liz was putting the kids to bed. I mentioned to Bethany that I was going to pass out, laid down on the couch and again lost consciousness. That one lasted twelve seconds, it was probably easier to wake up as both Liz and Bethany were shaking me and screaming my name in my face. By that time I had already had a blood pressure cuff I walked into the kitchen sat down and was staring the blood pressure test and past out again for another ten seconds.

    Ambulance to the hospital had a battery of tests, chest x-ray and everything is ok. BP is at 130 over 90 little high. The also said I was also okay neurologically, it is a country hospital, what can I say? I am given the choice of staying or going home and coming in the next morning for tests, and well a hospital is for someone sick and I feel great so home I go.

    Then this morning, things went really weird. I had a number of tests, with a number of people, but a number of times I handled things poorly. In life I am sure I have eaten more than my share of raw meat, but with time and a satiate, and generally healthy life in the country one becomes the leaf on the river.

    In the home stretch at 2:30 I had an appointment with "Ian" for an EEG. I am sure you have all herd of it, but the reality is, it is an old test. In some hospitals they do not do it anymore. Fortunately I had Ian. He comes in once a month to run these tests and I had lucked out, I had an appointment at 2:30. You can always count on my luck.

    Ian did not make the appointment. On his way back to Toronto, of course after then again he may have gone home back to Karachi after he checked his messages.

    Then I asked myself that question, what just happened? I do not know who Ian is and I could not care less about his ethnicity, and I certainly wish the man no ill will. I am still sticking with Crosby, Stills Nash and Young conceptually that: "A mans a man who looks a man right between the eyes." And it has always been that way, since day one with me. It is the way I roll. Without study, objective testing saying anything else about anyone is speculative at best.

    But what just happened?

    Pray reason together. As a much younger man I was an athlete. All of a sudden my blood pressure, heart rate were right at, round three, in the ring with I guy just a little bigger, faster, and stronger than I am.

    Hypertension 101.

    The mind was following the body. I was popping off on some guy’s answering machine because he missed an appointment, and had an accent and there was not a rock in town I was not going to clobber him with. Physiology was driving the moment. Reason securely in the back seat.

    While this type of experience is unique to me, and I understand that anyone who has to learn through experience alone will never be educated or wise, it does kind of explaining a couple of dive accidents that have been troubling, unresolved and by and large, inexplicable. This kind of problem underwater and it is game over.

    That was the day’s revelation. I will not be diving for a while. As a result of my dire hard pessimism, nihilism and hard luck the remedy is to: loose wait if you’re over weight (I am not) or just five or ten pounds, exercise, work on the cardio, and make some diet changes. I should be able to resume my life sentence too hard labor, in no time. This will of course have questionable bearing on my exwife’s prayers for my immorality.

    Scott McWilliam

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    Re: .... what just happened?

    A real wake up call - Thanks for sharing!

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    Hmmm. Loss of consciousness caused by hypertension? I'm not a doctor, but this sounds strange to me. Maybe you should seek a second opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshua Smith  View Original Post
    Hmmm. Loss of consciousness caused by hypertension? I'm not a doctor, but this sounds strange to me. Maybe you should seek a second opinion.
    I am a doctor, I also happily live in a country that allows me to ignore lawyers in regards to health care so I'll offer some advice.

    First of all you need to be properly evaluated for cardiac arythmias and epileptic seizures for that matter. I would definitely avoid diving until you're cleared. Also I would not call a bp of 140/90 hypertension and it is definitely not the cause of you losing consciousness.

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    Re: .... what just happened?

    I'm not wishing this on anybody.
    I have been recently diagnosed with MS (Multiple Sclerosis).
    In my case BP went sky high 285/165.
    Yeah, Doesn't seem possible.
    It mimicked a stroke to include slurred speech and slowness and feeling like I had just fallen off the roof of my two story house.
    BTW, when you go in to the ER with stroke symptoms you get head of the line priviledges.
    1st order of business lower the BP with what ever it took.
    Then a battery of X-Rays and CT scans.
    Nothing.
    Then a neurologist ordered an MRI.
    Bingo.
    MS.
    I've been reluctantly selling of bits and pieces of my toys since.

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    Re: .... what just happened?

    Thank you for your concerns.

    Some dive for a time, others for a life time. It has been over fourty years of great diving for me.

    Rebreather/ diving fatalities? Ageing and diving? Well as a result of employment, cause and the need to know, I have recovered a number of bodies. In some cases even then no one really knew what went wrong. It is like saying a ship sank as a result of a lack of bouancy. Other times you can dive and never see any body. Fact, but it does not explain a lot.

    As an honourary blues brother (Canadian Branch) and as one of the worlds slowest learners "I have seen the light`` Ì now understand how one of the accidents likely played out.

    Izze the 140 over 90 was the low, almost normal reading, in August. This week they were a over the map, including a 160 over 120 etc. I did not want to sound mellow dramatic. As health care is equal and free here you can bet your fins, I am on this like white on rice.



    Thanks again
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    Quote Originally Posted by s. McWilliam  View Original Post
    Thank you for your concerns.

    Some for a time, others for a life time. It has been over fourty years of great diving for me.

    Rebreather/ diving fatalities? Ageing and diving? Well as a result of employment, cause and the need to know, I have recovered a number of bodies. In some cases even then no one really knew what went wrong. It is like saying a ship sank as a result of a lack of bouancy. Other times you can dive and never see a body. Fact, but it does not explain a lot.

    As an honourary blues brother (Canadian Branch) and as one of the worlds slowest learners "I have seen the light`` Ì now understand how one of the accidents likely played out.

    Izze the 140 over 90 was the low, almost norman reading, they were a over the map, including a 160 over 120 etc. I did not want to sound mellow dramatic. As health care is equal and free here you can bet your fins, I am on this like white on rice.



    Thanks again
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    The thing is that 160/120, although not normal, is common in an ER setting. It is also generally unsymptomatic except for possible long term effects. In fact I wouldn't even prescribe medications with just those findings but rather confirm it at another time and even then try for life-style changes over the coming months. Hypertension might be a symptom but it's highly unlikely for it to be the primary reason and there are other, potentially dangerous diagnosis, that needs to be considered first.

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    Re: .... what just happened?

    Quote Originally Posted by izze  View Original Post
    The thing is that 160/120, although not normal, is common in an ER setting. It is also generally unsymptomatic except for possible long term effects. In fact I wouldn't even prescribe medications with just those findings but rather confirm it at another time and even then try for life-style changes over the coming months. Hypertension might be a symptom but it's highly unlikely for it to be the primary reason and there are other, potentially dangerous diagnosis, that needs to be considered first.
    That's what I was thinking, too. A person might pass out, or lose consciousness, due to LOW blood pressure, but not from HIGH blood pressure. You really ought to talk to your doc again, s McWilliam.

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    Re: .... what just happened?

    Well that is what happened I had high and low BPs and lately I feel like a pin cussion with the bllood work and wired for sound with all the leads and testing, next battery of test is Monday.

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    Well that is what happened, I had high and low Bps. I have had enough blood work to feel like a pin cushion and been wired up to everything but the hospital stereo and have more testing and more specialist Monday.
    For the purpose of this form, my medical problems are only relevant in that to know about a thing like a coronary is one thing and to experience one, is another (I have not had one).

    I can not presume to know what experience members of the form have but if you dive long enough sooner or later a dive accident may come to the group of divers you know. An effort to comprehend what happened is one of your first responses, this can be difficult and troubling. Remember my story if you find yourself in that place.

    Scott

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