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Thread: Annual Dive Medicals

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    Annual Dive Medicals

    The spate of recent rebreather fatalities has just shocked me, and came at a time when I was starting to think they were on the decline. I take my CCR diving very seriously and have spent the last couple of years learning as much as I can about what makes CCRs work and done many training courses and continually keep honing my skills so I can pass on this knowledge to other divers and students to make diving safer for everybody. If I can help just one diver to come home safely after diving then I feel It has been worthwhile.

    There are so many things that can go wrong that I have categorized them into 3 basic groups.

    1/ Equipment failure
    2/ Diver Training
    3/ Diver Physiology

    #1 the majority of CCR units currently available are very good, reliable machines although need constant monitoring so I will leave any further discussion to another topic.

    #2 Diver training is still an issue I feel in some cases needs to be addressed as there are constant changes to equipment and not only that but there have been lessons learn from previous accidents which have led a lot changes to training procedures and techniques. It's not a requirement yet for instructors to participate in update workshops but I am sure this will change so all actively teaching instructors are teaching the latest techniques and not outdated ones learnt may years ago.

    #3 Diver Physiology and regular medical checks is something I know more than one of you will cringe at the thought of. I also fly aeroplanes and as such have to have an annual medical examination which is VERY through and includes an ECG. It's peace of mind knowing that I am in good physical condition and there are no underlying problems I would not necessarily have known.

    One of the observations I have made over the last couple of years is that a lot of technical divers and more to the point CCR divers are not young any more. Don't worry I fall into this group also!! I think there are a few reasons for this and my own situation is that I was just not financially able to invest the time any money into expensive equipment and long trips away training, until I was in the position where my family had grown up and moved out.

    I think a lot of other divers have a similar situation so as such we are not as young nor as healthy as we once were although we all still feel at least 20 years younger!!. This leads to the potential for us becoming a little or a lot over weight, the possibility of developing Diabetes, heart disease and many more potentially life threatening diseases and conditions.

    I am sure that in some of the recent fatalities Physiological conditions paid a part in these tragedies.

    If you dive then you should have at least an annual check up even if it's only for the peace of mind knowing you are physically fit to dive and if you're not then it might just give you another chance to do something about it and dive another day.

    I thought putting a poll up might work well as part of an ongoing discussion and I hope you will participate in a discussion on the topic.

    Take Care out there guys.

    Regards,

    Lance

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    Re: Annual Dive Medicals

    Quote Originally Posted by Lancer4545  View Original Post
    I think a lot of other divers have a similar situation so as such we are not as young nor as healthy as we once were although we all still feel at least 20 years younger!!. This leads to the potential for us becoming a little or a lot over weight, the possibility of developing Diabetes, heart disease and many more potentially life threatening diseases and conditions.
    It is true that they say 50 is the new 30. The only problem is our hearts and lungs didn't get that memo.

    Here is my pledge: The day I have my first heart episode, whether it be angina, MI or any other issue, or the day my doctor says I am no longer in good physical condition, is the day I retire from CCR diving.

    It's not because I am afraid of dying underwater, but because I don't want to put anyone else who may try to rescue me in harms way. To have my last act on earth be one of such selfishness when I have been forewarned, possibly causing harm to others is not the way I want to be remembered. If my heart or my doctor tells me I am a liability, it is time for me to quit.

    Then it is back to OC, and those guys are a dime a dozen so....
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    Re: Annual Dive Medicals

    There is no doubt that when there is a serious accident it is extremely traumatic for everyone involved.

    I wouldn't go as far as to say when this happens I will never do that again. The whole idea behind having a regular medical examination is to diagnose anything that's likely to trigger an event and then take action to either correct it or safely manage it.

    I would like to think that should something was found during an examination that I could successfully continue to dive but only with a clearance from my doctor. But should the doctor say "No More" then that's it........

    Let's hope that won't be the case for some time yet!!

    Regards,

    Lance

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    Re: Annual Dive Medicals

    Once a year. Why not. It cost very little in Thailand ($200US). Also will get a TEE($100US) on then next visit which is also very inexpensive and provide some proactive information if I have a PFO or not. Better to be informed so that issues can be dealt with head on.

    As you know Lance. I am one of the old one but tend to keep in good physical shape specifically for technical diving but generally since it make me feel better each day.

    Plus you never know when you might need to be swimming all night long. :)

    John

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    Re: Annual Dive Medicals

    I'm going on 57. I have a "complete" physical annually. It includes blood work-up, EKG, spirometer, and ... um, other tests. It is definitely NOT one of those "executive" exams that take all day and cost lots of money, but I think its thorough enough to be considered a "dive" medical.

    I've never had a PFO test.

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    Re: Annual Dive Medicals

    Complete physical every year since I was 25......why not? it's only $20 bucks.

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    Re: Annual Dive Medicals

    Quote Originally Posted by NEDIVER  View Original Post
    Complete physical every year since I was 25......why not? it's only $20 bucks.
    Obviously you do not pay the full medical costs yourself. Last time I checked the standard suite of blood tests cost in excess of $500 at a discount lab in the US.

    John

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    Re: Annual Dive Medicals

    I really think if you're going to go to the trouble of taking a medical you might as well get a full medical including ECG, blood pressure, bloods and blood sugar.

    A quick $20.00 medical might satisfy your employer for work related conditions but diving is a lot more involved and as such so should the medical.

    Regards,

    Lance

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    Re: Annual Dive Medicals

    Complete physicals with eye and all orifice examinations since age 18.... so far so good....

    Dive safe,

    Celia

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    Re: Annual Dive Medicals

    When was my last physical?

    NONE OF YOUR DAMNED BUSINESS!!!

    Cheers,

    -S

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