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    Diving Research Ideas

    Hello,

    Let us introduce ourselves, we are five medical students currently in our 4th year studying in London.

    As part of our medical course, we are offered to organise Special Study Modules (also called Self selected modules), this gives us an oppurtunity to study into greater depth any medically related subject that is of interest to us.

    In our initial investigation we read a bit around the various fields of adventure medicine and we found diving medicine as being the most interesting and exciting topic and we are keen on doing our special study module in this area. We were hoping to do a small research project on diving medicine. It would be nice to experience diving medicine first hand but at the same time contribute to its development by conducting some research. However the field of diving medicine is relatively new for us and hence it would be great to get your expert input regarding diving medicine related topics that warrant further research.

    We have decided to do something which is not too invasive in order to ensure that we can obtain approval easily. We are thinking of doing simple tests to make some pre and post diving comparisons on our volunteers. It would be great to get your input regarding what things you'd like to be compared pre and post dive.

    Any help will be much appreciated.

    Thank You,
    Auzz.

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    Re: Diving Research Ideas

    Hum. Well I don't know how practical it is but I would love to see some quantitative research into the effect of the "Oxygen window". Ie that some people believe that a off-gassing on a ppO2 of 1.6 bar aids off-gassing. I don't know that there are any studies in this

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    PS - Where are you based? My club is based near Waterloo.

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    Re: Diving Research Ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by auzz  View Original Post
    Hello,

    Let us introduce ourselves, we are five medical students currently in our 4th year studying in London.

    As part of our medical course, we are offered to organise Special Study Modules (also called Self selected modules), this gives us an opportunity to study into greater depth any medically related subject that is of interest to us.

    In our initial investigation we read a bit around the various fields of adventure medicine and we found diving medicine as being the most interesting and exciting topic and we are keen on doing our special study module in this area. We were hoping to do a small research project on diving medicine. It would be nice to experience diving medicine first hand but at the same time contribute to its development by conducting some research. However the field of diving medicine is relatively new for us and hence it would be great to get your expert input regarding diving medicine related topics that warrant further research.

    We have decided to do something which is not too invasive in order to ensure that we can obtain approval easily. We are thinking of doing simple tests to make some pre and post diving comparisons on our volunteers. It would be great to get your input regarding what things you'd like to be compared pre and post dive.

    Any help will be much appreciated.

    Thank You,
    Auzz.
    Hi Auzz,

    That sounds like an interesting study.

    May I suggest you include the divers vital stats at the pre dive point and then post dive but also include a doppler test and a hydration test.

    You could study the effects of diving at 50mtrs - 70mtrs - 100mtrs -130mtrs all with a bottom time of 30 mins to see what differences if any becomes apparent.

    It would also be intersting to compare a diving using Trimix on the above dives against a diver using heliox.

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    Re: Diving Research Ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by auzz  View Original Post
    Hello,

    Let us introduce ourselves, we are five medical students currently in our 4th year studying in London.

    As part of our medical course, we are offered to organise Special Study Modules (also called Self selected modules), this gives us an oppurtunity to study into greater depth any medically related subject that is of interest to us.

    In our initial investigation we read a bit around the various fields of adventure medicine and we found diving medicine as being the most interesting and exciting topic and we are keen on doing our special study module in this area. We were hoping to do a small research project on diving medicine. It would be nice to experience diving medicine first hand but at the same time contribute to its development by conducting some research. However the field of diving medicine is relatively new for us and hence it would be great to get your expert input regarding diving medicine related topics that warrant further research.

    We have decided to do something which is not too invasive in order to ensure that we can obtain approval easily. We are thinking of doing simple tests to make some pre and post diving comparisons on our volunteers. It would be great to get your input regarding what things you'd like to be compared pre and post dive.

    Any help will be much appreciated.

    Thank You,
    Auzz.
    Hi Auzz,

    when you need a god book look for Prof. A.A. Bühlmann. I think you must found it on google.

    Cheers Markku

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    Re: Diving Research Ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by Janos  View Original Post
    Hum. Well I don't know how practical it is but I would love to see some quantitative research into the effect of the "Oxygen window". Ie that some people believe that a off-gassing on a ppO2 of 1.6 bar aids off-gassing. I don't know that there are any studies in this

    Janos

    PS - Where are you based? My club is based near Waterloo.
    HI Janos,

    good idea. Please post the results here an RBW. I think the WKPP or EKPP had some small "studies" done after there 10 Hour+ dive`s. But there don`t post any results to persons who don`t dive the "right way"

    Cheers Markku

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    Re: Diving Research Ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by auzz  View Original Post
    Hello,

    Let us introduce ourselves, we are five medical students currently in our 4th year studying in London.

    As part of our medical course, we are offered to organise Special Study Modules (also called Self selected modules), this gives us an oppurtunity to study into greater depth any medically related subject that is of interest to us.

    In our initial investigation we read a bit around the various fields of adventure medicine and we found diving medicine as being the most interesting and exciting topic and we are keen on doing our special study module in this area. We were hoping to do a small research project on diving medicine. It would be nice to experience diving medicine first hand but at the same time contribute to its development by conducting some research. However the field of diving medicine is relatively new for us and hence it would be great to get your expert input regarding diving medicine related topics that warrant further research.

    We have decided to do something which is not too invasive in order to ensure that we can obtain approval easily. We are thinking of doing simple tests to make some pre and post diving comparisons on our volunteers. It would be great to get your input regarding what things you'd like to be compared pre and post dive.

    Any help will be much appreciated.

    Thank You,
    Auzz.
    Hi Auzz,
    Thats a great idea!
    It really depends on the question you are asking (that is, the hypothesis you are testing).

    I think subclinical decompression illness (DCI) is a fascinating area, and one amenable to very low tech non-invasive investigation. The "classic" tests of bubbling and other manifestations / predispositions to DCI require pretty sophisticated equipment (Dopplers / Cadiac ECHO etc etc) that are not only expensive, but highly operator dependent and require high level expertise. My suggestion would be to evaluate higher cognitive / memory functions pre/post dive under whatever conditions / clinical question you are interested in testing (e.g. Do deep decompression stops reduce subclinical DCI, are women more prone to DCI than women / whatever...) using established questionaire or based tests like Halstead-Reitan Test Battery or puzzle type assessments like the Porteus Maze Test. This has the advantage obf being administerable with minimal training, is non-invasive (hence likely to pass muster of your ethics committee) and is cheap. It would also address the question of whether or not divers, under certain circumstances, are potentially damaging their brains with their diving practices.

    Another approach might be to examine divers tears for micro-bubbles with opthalmoscope / slit-lamp (although the latter would be difficult at dive sites) enhanced by fluoroscein staining.
    Cheers,
    Deepdoc

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    Re: Diving Research Ideas

    Hi,

    I think you guys could contact DAN, they do a lot of diving medicine research in both laboratory and non-laboratory studies, and see if you can fit somehow into the research they are doing.
    Some stuff they do:
    PFO DCS risk,
    Asthma, diabetes and diving,
    Hematological alterations in diving,
    Hypothermia,
    Flying after diving,
    and much more..

    The contact in the UK:

    DAN Europe Office United Kingdom & Ireland
    Area Director: Dr. Ramiro Cali Corleo, M.D.
    Regional Manager: Christopher Young CertEd
    Office Address: Unit 7 Phoenix Business Park Telford Way
    Coalville LE67 3HB,Leicestershire United Kindom
    Phone: 0870. 872 8888;

    Fax : 0870 872 5555;
    Email: uk@daneurope.org

    You can also visit DANs websites:
    http://www.diversalertnetwork.org
    https://www.daneurope.org

    Good luck,

    Zé.

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