Universal Rebreather Monitor

decoweenie · 13th February 2007, 06:36

Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7)

VR3 with tripple pO2 cell readout and an indipendent secondary display (like the Boris) - that's the "Kiss version" as from what I understand Jetsam will make it a factory option.

Both will have a HUD with two LEDs, one for pO2 warning, one for deco info.
The HUD runs off the VR3. The secondary only gives pO2 readout.

Depending on how the final price works out, IMHO, that would be a really sweet system if they could add 2 HP connections to it as well.

Mdemon · 13th February 2007, 10:20

I'm sure this will appeal if you think that real-time deco is accurate enough to be of any use. From my experience with VR£ + 4th cell, it's not worth the hassle for deco. It does have a place for redundant PO2 monitoring though. Is this URM an improvement for this in single cell mode over the old 4th cell kit?

I'm sure having info about cylinder pressure is useful to some but to my mind, it's more relevant to OC diving. Bailout/redundant gas would seem to make this a bit superfluous to me.

It looks expensive. It seems that there are many options which work out cheaper. If you just want a HUD and PO2 monitoring redundancy then a Beanie adapter + rEvodream works out much cheaper. For more functionality than that, you have Shearwater/HH etc, all of which look cost effective from a UK pricing perspective. Not really seeing what this URM is going to give that other manufacturers aren't already doing and doing cheaper.

LakeLover · 13th February 2007, 10:35

Is this simply a monitoring/setpoint device like APECS, or will it change PPo2 and operate a solenoid?

jknights · 13th February 2007, 19:32

Quote: (Originally Posted by LakeLover)

Is this simply a monitoring/setpoint device like APECS, or will it change PPo2 and operate a solenoid?

As I understand the data it would seem to be a monitoring device only.

The upgrade price is very steep. I really do think DeltaP need to look at their existing customers and try to help them rather than fleecing them.

jknights · 13th February 2007, 19:35

Quote: (Originally Posted by silentscuba)

The Shearwater trimix PO2 computer is $1,300 USD or about 650 pounds. The Shearwater HUD is $700 USD or about 350 pounds. Depending on what you want to adapt it to, you will also have the cost for the hook-up kit.

The Shearwater can also control your O2 solenoid.

Yes and the Shearwater has decent large sized numerals without paying for a big graphics upgrade.

Barrie Law · 20th February 2007, 12:32

Hi Folks,

Attached are the two draft Manuals from Delta P Technology and Closed Circuit Research with details about the Universal Rebreather Monitors.

The single cell will work with the Classic Inspiration and the three cell model will operate with the KISS and Meg and many SCR units.

Regards

JonnyB · 20th February 2007, 12:42

Quote: (Originally Posted by Soren Thomsen)

Hi folks,

1500£ for a 3 cell version with HUD and an upgrade. How does the HH and Shearwater compare to that?
Is HH the only one then that controls the solenoid?

Soren

And this price does NOT include the VR3, which is included in the HH and Shearwater... So add alot more to that sum.

/Jonny

***schford*** · 20th February 2007, 12:50

Kevin,

Is sending me a 3 cell version to review. Expect a 2 part write up soon!

Stuart

***Beanie*** · 20th February 2007, 13:02

Quote: (Originally Posted by schford)

Kevin,

Is sending me a 3 cell version to review. Expect a 2 part write up soon!

Stuart

you lucky

Ben Field · 20th February 2007, 13:30

Quote: (Originally Posted by Barrie Law)

Attached are the two draft Manuals from Delta P Technology and Closed Circuit Research with details about the Universal Rebreather Monitors.

Thanks for posting those.... interesting....

The big picture on page two made me shake my head slowly in wonder, what a cats craddle in the making- and it has fischers (again) oh dear, there really is a gap in the market for a diver proof underwater multipin connector. Also isn't routing everything into the two ends on the triangular box going to make it a real PITA to configure?

I have to say the HUD bracket and secondary look pretty robust, although PPO2 must drift by 0.2 before the light changes, seems abit marginal?

Was abit puzzled by the 99% Diluent Calibration gas setting technique, seems to leave rather a wide gap for error? Is the boris as fiddly to use as this?

13th February 2007, 06:36	#21 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: Universal Rebreather Monitor Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7) VR3 with tripple pO2 cell readout and an indipendent secondary display (like the Boris) - that's the "Kiss version" as from what I understand Jetsam will make it a factory option. Both will have a HUD with two LEDs, one for pO2 warning, one for deco info. The HUD runs off the VR3. The secondary only gives pO2 readout. Depending on how the final price works out, IMHO, that would be a really sweet system if they could add 2 HP connections to it as well. __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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Mdemon SiegeEngine II Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Home Build Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: SWUK Posts: 1,946	Re: Universal Rebreather Monitor I'm sure this will appeal if you think that real-time deco is accurate enough to be of any use. From my experience with VR£ + 4th cell, it's not worth the hassle for deco. It does have a place for redundant PO2 monitoring though. Is this URM an improvement for this in single cell mode over the old 4th cell kit? I'm sure having info about cylinder pressure is useful to some but to my mind, it's more relevant to OC diving. Bailout/redundant gas would seem to make this a bit superfluous to me. It looks expensive. It seems that there are many options which work out cheaper. If you just want a HUD and PO2 monitoring redundancy then a Beanie adapter + rEvodream works out much cheaper. For more functionality than that, you have Shearwater/HH etc, all of which look cost effective from a UK pricing perspective. Not really seeing what this URM is going to give that other manufacturers aren't already doing and doing cheaper. __________________ www.southwestmafia.com "small minds talk about people, Average Minds Talk About Events, GREAT MINDS TALK ABOUT IDEAS!" The WRONG Attitude will get you killed. "Once the agenda-monkeys and perfect-worlders have moved on, perhaps we can do some diving?"
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LakeLover New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Northern New York Posts: 71	Re: Universal Rebreather Monitor Is this simply a monitoring/setpoint device like APECS, or will it change PPo2 and operate a solenoid?
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13th February 2007, 19:32	#24 (permalink)
jknights New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: May 2005 Location: Oliva, Valencia, Spain. Posts: 121	Re: Universal Rebreather Monitor Quote: (Originally Posted by LakeLover) Is this simply a monitoring/setpoint device like APECS, or will it change PPo2 and operate a solenoid? As I understand the data it would seem to be a monitoring device only. The upgrade price is very steep. I really do think DeltaP need to look at their existing customers and try to help them rather than fleecing them.
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jknights New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: May 2005 Location: Oliva, Valencia, Spain. Posts: 121	Re: Universal Rebreather Monitor Quote: (Originally Posted by silentscuba) The Shearwater trimix PO2 computer is $1,300 USD or about 650 pounds. The Shearwater HUD is $700 USD or about 350 pounds. Depending on what you want to adapt it to, you will also have the cost for the hook-up kit. The Shearwater can also control your O2 solenoid. Yes and the Shearwater has decent large sized numerals without paying for a big graphics upgrade.
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20th February 2007, 12:42	#27 (permalink)
JonnyB Johnny The Hatch Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Titan Other CCR Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Megalodon Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Other CCR Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sweden (Stockholm)/Cyprus(Ayia Napa) Posts: 992	Re: Universal Rebreather Monitor Quote: (Originally Posted by Soren Thomsen) Hi folks, 1500£ for a 3 cell version with HUD and an upgrade. How does the HH and Shearwater compare to that? Is HH the only one then that controls the solenoid? Soren And this price does NOT include the VR3, which is included in the HH and Shearwater... So add alot more to that sum. /Jonny __________________ A quote from Crazyduck - In remembering our own Rob Davies. "Outbound flight 777 heavy you are cleared for flight Due west into that warm red Texas sunset You have angels on your wings and divers memories on your six." Rest In Peace http://www.divetekcyprus.com http://www.diveccr.com
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*schford* RBW Founder Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,564	Re: Universal Rebreather Monitor Kevin, Is sending me a 3 cell version to review. Expect a 2 part write up soon! Stuart __________________ Bailout and Kit Management account for Murphy's Law The only bad question is one you did not ask and later wish you had. Use of RBW is subject to the Rebreather World Terms & Conditions of Use
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Ben Field CK+Shearwater Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 1,775	Re: Universal Rebreather Monitor Quote: (Originally Posted by Barrie Law) Attached are the two draft Manuals from Delta P Technology and Closed Circuit Research with details about the Universal Rebreather Monitors. Thanks for posting those.... interesting.... The big picture on page two made me shake my head slowly in wonder, what a cats craddle in the making- and it has fischers (again) oh dear, there really is a gap in the market for a diver proof underwater multipin connector. Also isn't routing everything into the two ends on the triangular box going to make it a real PITA to configure? I have to say the HUD bracket and secondary look pretty robust, although PPO2 must drift by 0.2 before the light changes, seems abit marginal? Was abit puzzled by the 99% Diluent Calibration gas setting technique, seems to leave rather a wide gap for error? Is the boris as fiddly to use as this? __________________ Know your PPO2, Pre-breath, Use checklists, Validate cells at 6mtrs, Use pure O2 at or near surface, Use a BOV, Don't dive Solo, Change Slime and Cells as recommended by Manufacturer and RTFM! Beware Fridge Suck! www.hugsac.org.uk
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