VR3 switch off at 45m

colinicky · 14th July 2008, 07:17

Went diving yesterday , at 45m & 10 minutes into the dive my VR3 shut down ,No warning ,nothing at all .I happenend to be looking at it when it went ,about 2-3 minutes later it started up again on its own but had switched to Air & OC , It would not let me access anything via button pushing etc . Finished the dive on the Vision anyway & all was well .
On checking later the VR3 would then allow me access to the menu but has lost all gas lists etc .The battery still reads 3.5volts & is the same make of battery that I have always used with no problems.

Anybody any ideas ? obviously I'm ring DeltaP later .

Nad · 14th July 2008, 08:17

Quote: (Originally Posted by colinicky)

Went diving yesterday , at 45m & 10 minutes into the dive my VR3 shut down ,No warning ,nothing at all .I happenend to be looking at it when it went ,about 2-3 minutes later it started up again on its own but had switched to Air & OC , It would not let me access anything via button pushing etc . Finished the dive on the Vision anyway & all was well .
On checking later the VR3 would then allow me access to the menu but has lost all gas lists etc .The battery still reads 3.5volts & is the same make of battery that I have always used with no problems.

Anybody any ideas ? obviously I'm ring DeltaP later .

Hi did you check the buttons for damage?
Do the battery move free in the battery cap?
Cheers
Nad

colinicky · 14th July 2008, 08:38

Hi Nad
Buttons are fine & there is no movement in the battery ,As I said this is the same make of battery as I've always used & have had no problems which is why I stayed with the make .

**RichClark** · 14th July 2008, 08:50

My bet would still be the battery, despite you using the same brand. Do you peel the outer sheath off around around the battery cap end?

Cheers

Rich

Nad · 14th July 2008, 09:09

Quote: (Originally Posted by colinicky)

Hi Nad
Buttons are fine & there is no movement in the battery ,As I said this is the same make of battery as I've always used & have had no problems which is why I stayed with the make .

I quote what Rich say.

The battery must move freely on the spring. If the battery coating is too thick and fits too tightly in the cap, this may lead to power supply problems during the dive and the computer will shut off and you will loose some data.
Also if the battery is from the same maker and same model.
Cheers

Nad

Pawel Szopinski · 14th July 2008, 10:15

Quote: (Originally Posted by Nad)

I quote what Rich say.

The battery must move freely on the spring. If the battery coating is too thick and fits too tightly in the cap, this may lead to power supply problems during the dive and the computer will shut off and you will loose some data.
Also if the battery is from the same maker and same model.
Cheers

Nad

As above. I have reported the very same problem a couple of months ago. Pilling off outer sheath solved the issues.

Mark Chase · 14th July 2008, 10:18

Was this incident after you threw it at Trebor in an atempt to get him to shut the f#ck up about finding that bell on the first dive?

ATB

Mark

OH BTW I reckon it could be the SAFT as well. Tolerances arnt going to be tight on a battery cassing and its easily possable that one was 0.10mm bigger and all the other Safts you have used in the past.

**RichClark** · 14th July 2008, 10:33

Nicked from DREs website...

broady · 14th July 2008, 11:11

How many hours had the battery done previously?

I had the same problem with a saft ls14500 (with wrapper trimmed) as my VR3 crapped out and a few mins later rebooted and had lost all gases. The battery level had been fine but apparently these lithiums just suddenly 'go', you dont get the low battery warnings like the 1.5v.

I swapped out my battery for a new one and no probs since. Can't remember how many hours I had the battery in before it crapped out but it was a fair few dives.

HTH

Graham

colinicky · 14th July 2008, 18:28

Thanks all for the answers . By no movement in the battery I was meaning that it wasn't rattling around but it could move ok . DeltaP are saying the same thing so I have changed the battery & cut the wrapping off ,so we will see what happens .
Mark :- It was on the first dive that it happened

Mind you what a dive 12m viz ,a bell , a sextant & 2 portholes on one of the most popular wrecks in ther channel !

All I got was a crab

14th July 2008, 07:17	#1 (permalink)
colinicky RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: uk Posts: 681	VR3 switch off at 45m Went diving yesterday , at 45m & 10 minutes into the dive my VR3 shut down ,No warning ,nothing at all .I happenend to be looking at it when it went ,about 2-3 minutes later it started up again on its own but had switched to Air & OC , It would not let me access anything via button pushing etc . Finished the dive on the Vision anyway & all was well . On checking later the VR3 would then allow me access to the menu but has lost all gas lists etc .The battery still reads 3.5volts & is the same make of battery that I have always used with no problems. Anybody any ideas ? obviously I'm ring DeltaP later . __________________ Colin I trust my rebreather completely , I just don't trust the user onwards & downwards
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14th July 2008, 08:17	#2 (permalink)
Nad Rebel to the Bone Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 1,014	Re: VR3 switch off at 45m Quote: (Originally Posted by colinicky) Went diving yesterday , at 45m & 10 minutes into the dive my VR3 shut down ,No warning ,nothing at all .I happenend to be looking at it when it went ,about 2-3 minutes later it started up again on its own but had switched to Air & OC , It would not let me access anything via button pushing etc . Finished the dive on the Vision anyway & all was well . On checking later the VR3 would then allow me access to the menu but has lost all gas lists etc .The battery still reads 3.5volts & is the same make of battery that I have always used with no problems. Anybody any ideas ? obviously I'm ring DeltaP later . Hi did you check the buttons for damage? Do the battery move free in the battery cap? Cheers Nad __________________ The Impossible is often the Untried
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14th July 2008, 08:38	#3 (permalink)
colinicky RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: uk Posts: 681	Re: VR3 switch off at 45m Hi Nad Buttons are fine & there is no movement in the battery ,As I said this is the same make of battery as I've always used & have had no problems which is why I stayed with the make . __________________ Colin I trust my rebreather completely , I just don't trust the user onwards & downwards
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14th July 2008, 08:50	#4 (permalink)
RichClark Classic KISS No. 226 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hove, UK Posts: 793	Re: VR3 switch off at 45m My bet would still be the battery, despite you using the same brand. Do you peel the outer sheath off around around the battery cap end? Cheers Rich __________________ The more I learn about women, the more I want to go diving... just don't tell my wife I said that To taste something a little different, try http://www.thechillikitchen.co.uk
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14th July 2008, 09:09	#5 (permalink)
Nad Rebel to the Bone Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 1,014	Re: VR3 switch off at 45m Quote: (Originally Posted by colinicky) Hi Nad Buttons are fine & there is no movement in the battery ,As I said this is the same make of battery as I've always used & have had no problems which is why I stayed with the make . I quote what Rich say. The battery must move freely on the spring. If the battery coating is too thick and fits too tightly in the cap, this may lead to power supply problems during the dive and the computer will shut off and you will loose some data. Also if the battery is from the same maker and same model. Cheers Nad __________________ The Impossible is often the Untried
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14th July 2008, 10:15	#6 (permalink)
Pawel Szopinski RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: London, UK Posts: 136	Re: VR3 switch off at 45m Quote: (Originally Posted by Nad) I quote what Rich say. The battery must move freely on the spring. If the battery coating is too thick and fits too tightly in the cap, this may lead to power supply problems during the dive and the computer will shut off and you will loose some data. Also if the battery is from the same maker and same model. Cheers Nad As above. I have reported the very same problem a couple of months ago. Pilling off outer sheath solved the issues. __________________ "It's better to live one hour as a tiger than a whole lifetime as a worm." The Cat
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14th July 2008, 10:18	#7 (permalink)
Mark Chase RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,863	Re: VR3 switch off at 45m Was this incident after you threw it at Trebor in an atempt to get him to shut the f#ck up about finding that bell on the first dive? ATB Mark OH BTW I reckon it could be the SAFT as well. Tolerances arnt going to be tight on a battery cassing and its easily possable that one was 0.10mm bigger and all the other Safts you have used in the past. __________________ See my "Doing It Chasey" video where I'm locked into a padded room, naked, with two ball bearings and within an Hour, I manage to lose one and break the other!!! Kevin Juergensen 16/11/08 [/quote]
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14th July 2008, 10:33	#8 (permalink)
RichClark Classic KISS No. 226 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hove, UK Posts: 793	Re: VR3 switch off at 45m Nicked from DREs website... __________________ The more I learn about women, the more I want to go diving... just don't tell my wife I said that To taste something a little different, try http://www.thechillikitchen.co.uk
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14th July 2008, 11:11	#9 (permalink)
broady New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kent Posts: 28	Re: VR3 switch off at 45m How many hours had the battery done previously? I had the same problem with a saft ls14500 (with wrapper trimmed) as my VR3 crapped out and a few mins later rebooted and had lost all gases. The battery level had been fine but apparently these lithiums just suddenly 'go', you dont get the low battery warnings like the 1.5v. I swapped out my battery for a new one and no probs since. Can't remember how many hours I had the battery in before it crapped out but it was a fair few dives. HTH Graham
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14th July 2008, 18:28	#10 (permalink)
colinicky RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: uk Posts: 681	Re: VR3 switch off at 45m Thanks all for the answers . By no movement in the battery I was meaning that it wasn't rattling around but it could move ok . DeltaP are saying the same thing so I have changed the battery & cut the wrapping off ,so we will see what happens . Mark :- It was on the first dive that it happened Mind you what a dive 12m viz ,a bell , a sextant & 2 portholes on one of the most popular wrecks in ther channel ! All I got was a crab __________________ Colin I trust my rebreather completely , I just don't trust the user onwards & downwards
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