Vr3 Hd ?????

Humuhumu · 10th June 2008, 16:45

Hi,

I have seen the new VR3 HD on the web. I cannot find the information if all VR3 HD have from now all colour displays ?

Does anybody have information about this new version of the VR3 ?

Cheers

Humuhumu

PaulTG2 · 10th June 2008, 16:49

Hello,

DiveRiteExpress.com has quite a bit of information on the VR3 HD.

All VR3 HDs are have high resolution color screens, but you only get a two color display unless you pay for the PIN to activate the multi-color display option.

So, let the debate begin on PINs...

Sincerely,

Paul

Quote: (Originally Posted by Humuhumu)

Hi,

I have seen the new VR3 HD on the web. I cannot find the information if all VR3 HD have from now all colour displays ?

Does anybody have information about this new version of the VR3 ?

Cheers

Humuhumu

n2diving · 10th June 2008, 21:59

All of the new 2008 VR3HD's ship with a full color high resolution LCD. Out of the box, they are enabled for multi-color mode on the color LCD. After three dives are logged, if the optional HDCOL PIN has not been entered, they automatically 'downgrade' to single color (i.e. black letters on white background). Note that even in single color mode, the contrast and readability of the VR3HD is significantly improved over the previous 'monochrome' LCD. I suspect many divers will find the single color to be perfectly adequate for their needs. Since the multi-color mode is now a PIN upgrade, I recommend delaying the purchase of the HDCOL PIN until you have experienced diving both the multi-color and single color modes and can make an informed choice.

-- Mark

brockbr · 11th June 2008, 00:18

Quote: (Originally Posted by n2diving)

All of the new 2008 VR3HD's ship with a full color high resolution LCD. Out of the box, they are enabled for multi-color mode on the color LCD. After three dives are logged, if the optional HDCOL PIN has not been entered, they automatically 'downgrade' to single color (i.e. black letters on white background). Note that even in single color mode, the contrast and readability of the VR3HD is significantly improved over the previous 'monochrome' LCD. I suspect many divers will find the single color to be perfectly adequate for their needs. Since the multi-color mode is now a PIN upgrade, I recommend delaying the purchase of the HDCOL PIN until you have experienced diving both the multi-color and single color modes and can make an informed choice.

-- Mark

Sorry (and I'm going to burn Karma points for this), but are you F'ing kidding me?

Please tell me you're kidding about the color only being available by PIN?

So the manufacturer spends the time to
a) create the color hardware (ie. integrate to OTS components),
b) the color software interface and then
c) Screws the customer when they buy and HD version and turns the color off?

Sorry DeltaP (and I have had GREAT support and love my VR3), but that is just as dumb as the 6 versions of Microsoft Vista.

And if you don't get that comment, tell it to your software engineers who I am SURE cringed when you told them to design it that way.

ps. By the way, using HD in the name only makes it look like a acronym grab for high-tech. People like me shudder at that unless you truly added "High Definition" capabilities to it, such as higher resolution data capture, not some tiny color QVGA screen.

Tienuts · 11th June 2008, 02:03

Quote: (Originally Posted by brockbr)

Sorry (and I'm going to burn Karma points for this), but are you F'ing kidding me?

Please tell me you're kidding about the color only being available by PIN?

So the manufacturer spends the time to
a) create the color hardware (ie. integrate to OTS components),
b) the color software interface and then
c) Screws the customer when they buy and HD version and turns the color off?

Sorry DeltaP (and I have had GREAT support and love my VR3), but that is just as dumb as the 6 versions of Microsoft Vista.

And if you don't get that comment, tell it to your software engineers who I am SURE cringed when you told them to design it that way.

ps. By the way, using HD in the name only makes it look like a acronym grab for high-tech. People like me shudder at that unless you truly added "High Definition" capabilities to it, such as higher resolution data capture, not some tiny color QVGA screen.

I consider that brilliant marketing by Delta P. Divers will be more inclined to activate the color feature after they get that little 3 dive teaser. More divers will also buy the PIN to make their units color, as opposed to sending their existing unit in for an LCD replacement. Bottom line is more divers will end up diving color units, and more $$ in Delta P's pocket.

For the rest of us who don't care about color - don't buy it.

mountain diver · 11th June 2008, 02:21

Quote: (Originally Posted by Tienuts)

I consider that brilliant marketing by Delta P. Divers will be more inclined to activate the color feature after they get that little 3 dive teaser. More divers will also buy the PIN to make their units color, as opposed to sending their existing unit in for an LCD replacement. Bottom line is more divers will end up diving color units, and more $$ in Delta P's pocket.

For the rest of us who don't care about color - don't buy it.

Yep, it's all about marketing. But, alas it is too much for to little.

all the best.

PaulTG2 · 11th June 2008, 02:32

Hello,

Having only one to produce and support makes sense. It is also nice for the dive shops and distribution chain as they don't have to stock two versions any more, just one.

IMHO they should have just raised the price $100 for everyone and made them all color activated and be done with it. Doing it this way just makes them seem like money grabbers. The teaser 3 dives is really brilliant marketing, but in the end I think it will leave a bad taste in people's mouths.

Sincerely,

-p

osiris · 11th June 2008, 03:24

Quote: (Originally Posted by brockbr;1

ps. By the way, using HD in the name only makes it look like a acronym grab for high-tech. People like me shudder at that unless you truly added "High Definition" capabilities to it, such as higher resolution [B)

data capture[/b], not some tiny color QVGA screen.

It might mean "HOTDIGIDIDY DAMN" rather than "High definition" mightn't it?

Andy Del · 11th June 2008, 03:49

Quote: (Originally Posted by PaulTG2)

The teaser 3 dives is really brilliant marketing, but in the end I think it will leave a bad taste in people's mouths.
-p

This is actually an example of piss-poor marketing! (or an oxymoron)

cheers

Andy

Humuhumu · 11th June 2008, 08:47

Hi,

Personally I don't care about colour, but I don't like this bull shit too. For me it's a poor marketing strategy and a strange business behavior, I have already noticed from this company... Why do they add costs by putting a ****ing colour display and after that downgrade it to black and white ? For me this makes no sense and I don't like that.

I will probably go for an another computer if the dealer cannot arrange something :-) Shearwater Pursuit will take market shares, I think...

Thanks a lot for the answers.

Cheers

Humuhumu

10th June 2008, 16:45	#1 (permalink)
Humuhumu New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Blue Planet Posts: 86	Vr3 Hd ????? Hi, I have seen the new VR3 HD on the web. I cannot find the information if all VR3 HD have from now all colour displays ? Does anybody have information about this new version of the VR3 ? Cheers Humuhumu __________________ Humuhumu Nukunuku Apua'a
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10th June 2008, 16:49	#2 (permalink)
PaulTG2 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 400	Re: Vr3 Hd ????? Hello, DiveRiteExpress.com has quite a bit of information on the VR3 HD. All VR3 HDs are have high resolution color screens, but you only get a two color display unless you pay for the PIN to activate the multi-color display option. So, let the debate begin on PINs... Sincerely, Paul Quote: (Originally Posted by Humuhumu) Hi, I have seen the new VR3 HD on the web. I cannot find the information if all VR3 HD have from now all colour displays ? Does anybody have information about this new version of the VR3 ? Cheers Humuhumu __________________ Paul's first law states that the safety of an activity is determined by how forgiving of mistakes the activity is. Paul's second law states that the difference between an adventurer and an explorer is whether the doing or the learning comes first. Last edited by PaulTG2 : 10th June 2008 at 22:13.
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10th June 2008, 21:59	#3 (permalink)
n2diving Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 271	Re: Vr3 Hd ????? All of the new 2008 VR3HD's ship with a full color high resolution LCD. Out of the box, they are enabled for multi-color mode on the color LCD. After three dives are logged, if the optional HDCOL PIN has not been entered, they automatically 'downgrade' to single color (i.e. black letters on white background). Note that even in single color mode, the contrast and readability of the VR3HD is significantly improved over the previous 'monochrome' LCD. I suspect many divers will find the single color to be perfectly adequate for their needs. Since the multi-color mode is now a PIN upgrade, I recommend delaying the purchase of the HDCOL PIN until you have experienced diving both the multi-color and single color modes and can make an informed choice. -- Mark Last edited by n2diving : 10th June 2008 at 22:18.
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11th June 2008, 00:18	#4 (permalink)
brockbr Train Wrecked ;) Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Alabaster, AL Posts: 223	Re: Vr3 Hd ????? Quote: (Originally Posted by n2diving) All of the new 2008 VR3HD's ship with a full color high resolution LCD. Out of the box, they are enabled for multi-color mode on the color LCD. After three dives are logged, if the optional HDCOL PIN has not been entered, they automatically 'downgrade' to single color (i.e. black letters on white background). Note that even in single color mode, the contrast and readability of the VR3HD is significantly improved over the previous 'monochrome' LCD. I suspect many divers will find the single color to be perfectly adequate for their needs. Since the multi-color mode is now a PIN upgrade, I recommend delaying the purchase of the HDCOL PIN until you have experienced diving both the multi-color and single color modes and can make an informed choice. -- Mark Sorry (and I'm going to burn Karma points for this), but are you F'ing kidding me? Please tell me you're kidding about the color only being available by PIN? So the manufacturer spends the time to a) create the color hardware (ie. integrate to OTS components), b) the color software interface and then c) Screws the customer when they buy and HD version and turns the color off? Sorry DeltaP (and I have had GREAT support and love my VR3), but that is just as dumb as the 6 versions of Microsoft Vista. And if you don't get that comment, tell it to your software engineers who I am SURE cringed when you told them to design it that way. ps. By the way, using HD in the name only makes it look like a acronym grab for high-tech. People like me shudder at that unless you truly added "High Definition" capabilities to it, such as higher resolution data capture, not some tiny color QVGA screen. __________________ Want to try FREE BETA Linux/Mac/Windows OC & CCR Decompression software I'm writing? MyDecoPlan.com Last edited by brockbr : 11th June 2008 at 00:22.
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Tienuts The man from Nantucket Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fort Lauderdale Posts: 170	Re: Vr3 Hd ????? Quote: (Originally Posted by brockbr) Sorry (and I'm going to burn Karma points for this), but are you F'ing kidding me? Please tell me you're kidding about the color only being available by PIN? So the manufacturer spends the time to a) create the color hardware (ie. integrate to OTS components), b) the color software interface and then c) Screws the customer when they buy and HD version and turns the color off? Sorry DeltaP (and I have had GREAT support and love my VR3), but that is just as dumb as the 6 versions of Microsoft Vista. And if you don't get that comment, tell it to your software engineers who I am SURE cringed when you told them to design it that way. ps. By the way, using HD in the name only makes it look like a acronym grab for high-tech. People like me shudder at that unless you truly added "High Definition" capabilities to it, such as higher resolution data capture, not some tiny color QVGA screen. I consider that brilliant marketing by Delta P. Divers will be more inclined to activate the color feature after they get that little 3 dive teaser. More divers will also buy the PIN to make their units color, as opposed to sending their existing unit in for an LCD replacement. Bottom line is more divers will end up diving color units, and more $$ in Delta P's pocket. For the rest of us who don't care about color - don't buy it.
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11th June 2008, 02:21	#6 (permalink)
mountain diver Silent Lucidity Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: edmonton, ab. Posts: 191	Re: Vr3 Hd ????? Quote: (Originally Posted by Tienuts) I consider that brilliant marketing by Delta P. Divers will be more inclined to activate the color feature after they get that little 3 dive teaser. More divers will also buy the PIN to make their units color, as opposed to sending their existing unit in for an LCD replacement. Bottom line is more divers will end up diving color units, and more $$ in Delta P's pocket. For the rest of us who don't care about color - don't buy it. Yep, it's all about marketing. But, alas it is too much for to little. all the best. __________________ You can make a choice, but you don't get to choose the consequence. All the best.
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11th June 2008, 02:32	#7 (permalink)
PaulTG2 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 400	Re: Vr3 Hd ????? Hello, Having only one to produce and support makes sense. It is also nice for the dive shops and distribution chain as they don't have to stock two versions any more, just one. IMHO they should have just raised the price $100 for everyone and made them all color activated and be done with it. Doing it this way just makes them seem like money grabbers. The teaser 3 dives is really brilliant marketing, but in the end I think it will leave a bad taste in people's mouths. Sincerely, -p __________________ Paul's first law states that the safety of an activity is determined by how forgiving of mistakes the activity is. Paul's second law states that the difference between an adventurer and an explorer is whether the doing or the learning comes first.
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osiris Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Auckland Posts: 289	Re: Vr3 Hd ????? Quote: (Originally Posted by brockbr;1 ps. By the way, using HD in the name only makes it look like a acronym grab for high-tech. People like me shudder at that unless you truly added "High Definition" capabilities to it, such as higher resolution [B) data capture[/b], not some tiny color QVGA screen. It might mean "HOTDIGIDIDY DAMN" rather than "High definition" mightn't it?
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11th June 2008, 03:49	#9 (permalink)
Andy Del Classic KISSer Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Australia, Sunny Sydney Posts: 412	Re: Vr3 Hd ????? Quote: (Originally Posted by PaulTG2) The teaser 3 dives is really brilliant marketing, but in the end I think it will leave a bad taste in people's mouths. -p This is actually an example of piss-poor marketing! (or an oxymoron) cheers Andy __________________ Yellow - the colour of greatness!
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11th June 2008, 08:47	#10 (permalink)
Humuhumu New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Blue Planet Posts: 86	Re: Vr3 Hd ????? Hi, Personally I don't care about colour, but I don't like this bull shit too. For me it's a poor marketing strategy and a strange business behavior, I have already noticed from this company... Why do they add costs by putting a ***ing colour display and after that downgrade it to black and white ? For me this makes no sense and I don't like that. I will probably go for an another computer if the dealer cannot arrange something :-) Shearwater Pursuit will take market shares, I think... Thanks a lot for the answers. Cheers Humuhumu __________________ Humuhumu Nukunuku Apua'a*
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