Vr3 Hd ?????

cramerdn · 21st June 2008, 00:11

Quote: (Originally Posted by tibby)

You know how you can buy an Itunes song for $0.99?...DeltaP could do the same; simply go on their wesite and buy your next dive. Let's say $3.99 per nitrox dive and $5.99 per trimix dive. VPM-BE extra $0.99 per dive.

Don't give them any ideas.

The HD is good news for a VR3 owner, $220-$940 (depending on your old model) and 6-8 weeks turn around time and your old VR3 will do everything an X1 or Shearwater will do. Well not excactly since it appears there was no change to the decompression software so its still the same computer basicly.

Quote: (Originally Posted by toby321)

Does anyone know if you can upgrade your excisting VR3 to the new VR HD or do you have to buy the new one and use your old one as a hammer.

Now that actualy is a good sugestion except the housing shape means the VR3 doesn't even do that very well, and you still have to buy a pin to unlock that feature.

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The real good news is that anyone who sold Delta P stock short is in good shape right now.

jont · 21st June 2008, 03:40

Quote: (Originally Posted by UWshutterbug)

Marketing good or not, this what I see about it.

$1,745 U.S. gets you a Shearwater Pursuit ready out of the box for open and closed circuit, trimix, and external ppo2 monitor (up to three cells).

$1,474 (from a most US dealers) will get you Delta-P’s new VR3HD.
But wait, if you are a rebreather diver, you need the up grades.
1. Multi-color activation pin so display is full color. . . $225.
2. Constant ppo2 monitoring. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $100.
3. Be able read external ppo2 (one cell only). . . . . . . $225.
4. Helium support for Trimix. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $200.

When it all said and done, especially the joyous part of putting all those pins yourself, you have invested $ 2,224. And lets talk about the other featured upgrade costs.

I'm a CCR diver, and I endorse this message.

HAHAHAHA-the math never lies, the whole HD thing is BS, there's no way its TRUE HD, the whole thing is just slippery or slimy marketing, there's nothing brilliant about it.

Jon

Nad · 21st June 2008, 09:29

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ilikerisk)

The poor marketing is releasing each year's update in the middle of diving season when it takes 8-10 weeks to get the update applied! If they released the updated in the dead of winter people would be more inclined to do it.

I'm happy to pay for the update, and part of the case where the handstrap goes on snapped off so I have to send it in anyway, but I'll be dammed if I give it up for the season.

Winter Season for us is Summer season in the South part of the World...

Nad

Humuhumu · 21st June 2008, 17:31

Quote: (Originally Posted by Nad)

Winter Season for us is Summer season in the South part of the World...

Nad

Nad,

USA and UK are like France & Switzerland in the.... Northern hemisphere

so it's not a good solution

Cheers

Humuhumu

Nad · 22nd June 2008, 15:00

Quote: (Originally Posted by Humuhumu)

Nad,

USA and UK are like France & Switzerland in the.... Northern hemisphere

so it's not a good solution

Cheers

Humuhumu

Hey don't forget our Aussie brothers

Hopefully now with the HD, any upgrade should be made by PIN so no more lost time with shipping etc.

I just dove one: better screen resolution, more friendly navigation between menus. It is a little bit slower than the older version.
For the rest it isn't really much different from the older versions.

Cheers.

Nad

oldguydiving · 5th July 2008, 17:15

My 2 cents on the PIN thing. It reminds me of Lotus 'key disk' technology, which had the same principle motivation of withholding benefits from those who didn't pay. (for those too young to recall Lotus was a spreadsheet that preceded the domination of the market my MS Excel). Lotus's approach produced a whole waive of technological innovation that got around the 'protection' and I'm pretty sure the same thing with happen with PIN - PIN engaged manufacturers should recall the lesson. Lotus dominated the market and is now almost unknown. Bill

Humuhumu · 6th July 2008, 16:53

Quote: (Originally Posted by oldguydiving)

My 2 cents on the PIN thing. It reminds me of Lotus 'key disk' technology, which had the same principle motivation of withholding benefits from those who didn't pay. (for those too young to recall Lotus was a spreadsheet that preceded the domination of the market my MS Excel). Lotus's approach produced a whole waive of technological innovation that got around the 'protection' and I'm pretty sure the same thing with happen with PIN - PIN engaged manufacturers should recall the lesson. Lotus dominated the market and is now almost unknown. Bill

Yes, like Ashton Tate (Framework, Dbase), Nantucket (Clipper), and they are hundreds of other examples where it didn't work to sc... the customers

They should think about that.

I've bought a Shearwater Pursuit and I'm very happy: easier to use by far than a VR£ and I don't care if it has a color screen or not. I found also the HUD of my Inspiration boring... underwater I can only recognize the position of the leds and not the colors, I prefer simple to use things, than all this high tech... especially when something goes wrong

Cheers

Humuhumu

Chris · 8th July 2008, 00:26

What a load of bollocks this is from Delta P.

I sold both my VR3's last week, picked up two Liquivision X1's for myself and the Australian Dealership for them.

8 dives with the X1 and I am in love !

Never going back to the only computer I will ever need. You guys can have your bricks

Cheers
Chriso

Nad · 8th July 2008, 08:38

Quote: (Originally Posted by Chris)

What a load of bollocks this is from Delta P.

I sold both my VR3's last week, picked up two Liquivision X1's for myself and the Australian Dealership for them.

8 dives with the X1 and I am in love !

Never going back to the only computer I will ever need. You guys can have your bricks

Cheers
Chriso

Of course the liquivision is more interesting, they gave you the dealership...

Nad

21st June 2008, 00:11	#21 (permalink)
cramerdn Obey my dog! Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Townsville QLD Posts: 730	Re: Vr3 Hd ????? Quote: (Originally Posted by tibby) You know how you can buy an Itunes song for $0.99?...DeltaP could do the same; simply go on their wesite and buy your next dive. Let's say $3.99 per nitrox dive and $5.99 per trimix dive. VPM-BE extra $0.99 per dive. Don't give them any ideas. The HD is good news for a VR3 owner, $220-$940 (depending on your old model) and 6-8 weeks turn around time and your old VR3 will do everything an X1 or Shearwater will do. Well not excactly since it appears there was no change to the decompression software so its still the same computer basicly. Quote: (Originally Posted by toby321) Does anyone know if you can upgrade your excisting VR3 to the new VR HD or do you have to buy the new one and use your old one as a hammer. Now that actualy is a good sugestion except the housing shape means the VR3 doesn't even do that very well, and you still have to buy a pin to unlock that feature. [/quote] The real good news is that anyone who sold Delta P stock short is in good shape right now. __________________ "Its better to live one day as a tiger than an entire life as a worm." "But who's ever heard of a worm skin rug?"
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21st June 2008, 03:40	#22 (permalink)
jont RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Prism Topaz Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: New York, NY USA Posts: 241	Re: Vr3 Hd ????? Quote: (Originally Posted by UWshutterbug) Marketing good or not, this what I see about it. $1,745 U.S. gets you a Shearwater Pursuit ready out of the box for open and closed circuit, trimix, and external ppo2 monitor (up to three cells). $1,474 (from a most US dealers) will get you Delta-P’s new VR3HD. But wait, if you are a rebreather diver, you need the up grades. 1. Multi-color activation pin so display is full color. . . $225. 2. Constant ppo2 monitoring. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $100. 3. Be able read external ppo2 (one cell only). . . . . . . $225. 4. Helium support for Trimix. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $200. When it all said and done, especially the joyous part of putting all those pins yourself, you have invested $ 2,224. And lets talk about the other featured upgrade costs. I'm a CCR diver, and I endorse this message. HAHAHAHA-the math never lies, the whole HD thing is BS, there's no way its TRUE HD, the whole thing is just slippery or slimy marketing, there's nothing brilliant about it. Jon
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21st June 2008, 09:29	#23 (permalink)
Nad Rebel to the Bone Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 1,014	Re: Vr3 Hd ????? Quote: (Originally Posted by Ilikerisk) The poor marketing is releasing each year's update in the middle of diving season when it takes 8-10 weeks to get the update applied! If they released the updated in the dead of winter people would be more inclined to do it. I'm happy to pay for the update, and part of the case where the handstrap goes on snapped off so I have to send it in anyway, but I'll be dammed if I give it up for the season. Winter Season for us is Summer season in the South part of the World... Nad __________________ The Impossible is often the Untried
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21st June 2008, 17:31	#24 (permalink)
Humuhumu Yellow Box Of Delight Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Blue Planet Posts: 147	Re: Vr3 Hd ????? Quote: (Originally Posted by Nad) Winter Season for us is Summer season in the South part of the World... Nad Nad, USA and UK are like France & Switzerland in the.... Northern hemisphere so it's not a good solution Cheers Humuhumu __________________ Humuhumu Nukunuku Apua'a
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22nd June 2008, 15:00	#25 (permalink)
Nad Rebel to the Bone Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 1,014	Re: Vr3 Hd ????? Quote: (Originally Posted by Humuhumu) Nad, USA and UK are like France & Switzerland in the.... Northern hemisphere so it's not a good solution Cheers Humuhumu Hey don't forget our Aussie brothers Hopefully now with the HD, any upgrade should be made by PIN so no more lost time with shipping etc. I just dove one: better screen resolution, more friendly navigation between menus. It is a little bit slower than the older version. For the rest it isn't really much different from the older versions. Cheers. Nad __________________ The Impossible is often the Untried
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5th July 2008, 17:15	#26 (permalink)
oldguydiving New Member Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Arlington Virginia USA Posts: 6	Re: Vr3 Hd ????? My 2 cents on the PIN thing. It reminds me of Lotus 'key disk' technology, which had the same principle motivation of withholding benefits from those who didn't pay. (for those too young to recall Lotus was a spreadsheet that preceded the domination of the market my MS Excel). Lotus's approach produced a whole waive of technological innovation that got around the 'protection' and I'm pretty sure the same thing with happen with PIN - PIN engaged manufacturers should recall the lesson. Lotus dominated the market and is now almost unknown. Bill __________________ "if to do were as easy as to know what were good to do, chapels had been churches and poor men's cottages prince's palaces"
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6th July 2008, 16:53	#27 (permalink)
Humuhumu Yellow Box Of Delight Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Blue Planet Posts: 147	Re: Vr3 Hd ????? Quote: (Originally Posted by oldguydiving) My 2 cents on the PIN thing. It reminds me of Lotus 'key disk' technology, which had the same principle motivation of withholding benefits from those who didn't pay. (for those too young to recall Lotus was a spreadsheet that preceded the domination of the market my MS Excel). Lotus's approach produced a whole waive of technological innovation that got around the 'protection' and I'm pretty sure the same thing with happen with PIN - PIN engaged manufacturers should recall the lesson. Lotus dominated the market and is now almost unknown. Bill Yes, like Ashton Tate (Framework, Dbase), Nantucket (Clipper), and they are hundreds of other examples where it didn't work to sc... the customers They should think about that. I've bought a Shearwater Pursuit and I'm very happy: easier to use by far than a VR£ and I don't care if it has a color screen or not. I found also the HUD of my Inspiration boring... underwater I can only recognize the position of the leds and not the colors, I prefer simple to use things, than all this high tech... especially when something goes wrong Cheers Humuhumu __________________ Humuhumu Nukunuku Apua'a
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8th July 2008, 00:26	#28 (permalink)
Chris Go Nude Or Go Home Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Prism Topaz Sport Kiss Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 615	Re: Vr3 Hd ????? What a load of bollocks this is from Delta P. I sold both my VR3's last week, picked up two Liquivision X1's for myself and the Australian Dealership for them. 8 dives with the X1 and I am in love ! Never going back to the only computer I will ever need. You guys can have your bricks Cheers Chriso __________________ Megalodon Sorb and Sensors whilst in Australia www.divetub.com.au Diving & Photography @ www.uwphotog.com
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8th July 2008, 08:38	#29 (permalink)
Nad Rebel to the Bone Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 1,014	Re: Vr3 Hd ????? Quote: (Originally Posted by Chris) What a load of bollocks this is from Delta P. I sold both my VR3's last week, picked up two Liquivision X1's for myself and the Australian Dealership for them. 8 dives with the X1 and I am in love ! Never going back to the only computer I will ever need. You guys can have your bricks Cheers Chriso Of course the liquivision is more interesting, they gave you the dealership... Nad __________________ The Impossible is often the Untried
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