vr3 or shearwater...?

joaquin

hello guys I am thinking about to install on my classic kiss a rebreather conector ,I am in doubt between the vr3 universal rebreather connector or the shearwater computer, connector, hud...etc
having in mind that I already have the Delta P display purchased with my ck .
Do you know wich will be the best choice ?, I am sure that you will be able to make me a good decision

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Ben Field

Do you like the DeltaP display and kidney currently fitted to you CK?

If you do then it might make sense to add the rest of "their" bits to make it a complete system.... if you like the way the VR£ works GUI/Deco wise? I suggest you try one before you buy, I find the menu system overly complex and fiddly.

I have the complete Shearwater system- New kidney, HUD and GF computer. Its an excellent system you will struggle to fault.

(Others wiser than me might know if you can plug a Shearwater into the DeltaP kidney you already have.... if such an evil creation where possible you might have the best of both worlds?)

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joaquin

Sombody know if can I fit the shearwater together with DP display on the CK?
I like the DP it works nice and it's robust bud I don't like so much the rest of vr3 kit and I find it's too much expensive .

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lizardland

How many posts do you see about "I've had to send my Shearwater back for repair"?

How many that say "I've had to send my VR£ back"?

I rest my case

Don't know what their kidney looks like but I imagine it wouldn't be hard to have it modified to add a Shearwater into it. John Routley did a very good job of modifying my stock kidney for a Shearwater, he even sells the cables.

Cheers,

Stuart

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I did both.

I bought the VR3 and URM initially, and wanted to have a second computer for backup.

You can get a shearwater and a (custom) double-ended Fischer cable and plug it right into the 'backup display' port on the URM.

No fussing, no problems. The shearwater also works if the VR3 is off, or not even plugged in.

No extra load on the cells, and you get 2 real-time deco computer.

The down side, cost.

others will say that it has multiple failure points. Personally, I have found they are very minimal -
- The cables are pretty much permanent, you aren't likely to have connection problems with a connector you don't touch. The main failure point here is the connection to the computer itself (those I do use), but that would be the same as any other system.

- The 'extra circuitry' ... I can draw you a pretty good schematic of what the insides of the URM probably look like (I didn't design it, nor have I opened one to look, but from the way it functions, it isn't hard to imagine the best and most obvious solutions). I'm comfortable trusting that it isn't going to fail. and, as mentioned, even if the URM craps out on you while underwater, the shearwater connection is still going to be intact.

- extra fuss with 2 different systems. Really? Neither are that difficult, and both have some desireable features that the other doesn't. The additional task loading is minimal, and given that you are on CCR, you have lots of time for anything (other than an emergency bailout :P ) to get it sorted out without risking your safety. You can set the shearwater to be very close to the VR3 for deco schedule. So far it hasn't been much out of line, but I may adjust the settings slightly when I get into longer deco to match them even better.

It's your call, but if you want any extra info, let me know, I'd be happy to help.

Oh, and one more thing ... VR3 did get a bad batch of fischers a while back. Mine got one of these faulty ones. After sending it back once, problem solved. absolutly no complaints on teh unit. Built like a rock. They have probably solved the connector batch problem by now, so any new VR3 shouldn't have an issue.

One other thing to consider - VR3, England. Shearwater, Canada - Is shipping an issue for you to either?

jo_c

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Mark Chase

I have owned both and Id go for the Shearwater. Its deco options are a lot more flexable and the download graphics are fantastic.

ATB

Mark

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Shearwater.

cramerdn

I have owned two Shearwaters, the original and the pursuit, and a VR3.

I sold the VR3 (very quickly), I love my Shearwater.

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joaquin

I am surprised and very happy to have our help so quickly ...!
thanks x 10000000000000000

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