Vr3 VPM-B latest info from Delta P

Barrie Law · 14th October 2005, 15:12

An optional new variation of the VR decompression algorithm incorporating a variable permeability model

We are pleased to announce, in response to the many requests we have received over the last few months, that an upgrade will be available soon which will enable VR3 owners to use both the standard VR decompression algorithm AND a new variation of the algorithm that we have developed which incorporates a variable permeability model. We are calling this the V1 upgrade and it will provide selection of either model on a single VR3.

What it does.

The new algorithm is based on VPM BE and depending on gas selection and dive depth and time, it will in some cases, provide a reduced decompression requirement, although this is not always true. What the new algorithm does is smooth out the decompression profile. There are no deep micro-bubble stops and ‘normal’ decompression stops begin much deeper. Generally speaking, the intermediate stops are longer compared with the standard VR algorithm and shallower stops are shorter.

A unique feature of the V1 upgrade is that, once enabled, divers can switch to the algorithm they prefer for the type of diving they are doing, even in between dives if they wish. On every dive the VR3 records tissue and bubble states using both algorithms so divers can swap between the two without compromising their ability to switch back.

Product Compatibility

When V1 is released, new VR3s may be ordered via Delta P dealers with the V1 upgrade already installed. Current VR3 owners may upgrade by returning their existing computer to the factory via their dealer for the work to be done. The amount of work required and the cost of the upgrade depends on the age and capabilities of the unit being upgraded.

VR3s manufactured since October 2004 which have Software Version V3.03aC installed are already armed with the expanded memory required to run the V1 upgrade. Therefore all that is required is the software upgrade itself. This will cost £195.00 in the UK incl. VAT. This will also be the price to have the V1 upgrade enabled on a new VR3.

If your computer has the later body style (circlips visible behind the switch pockets and a 7 pin I/O connector) and has software version V2.1 CXR or V3.03aB installed, you will need to buy the expanded memory required and the software upgrade. The price for this will be £393.00 incl. VAT.

If you have a computer manufactured before June 2003 which either has no I/O connector on the side or takes a 2 pin connector and which has no visible switch circlips, then your current box cannot be fitted with the expanded memory required. So you will also need to upgrade the box to the new body style. Together with the expanded memory and software upgrade this will cost £643.00 incl. VAT.

When considering upgrading one of these older units, owners using analyser or rebreather cables should be aware that the new box will have a 7 pin connector, not a 2 pin connector

Cheers

Andy M · 14th October 2005, 15:17

Quote: (Originally Posted by Barrie Law)

VR3s manufactured since October 2004 which have Software Version V3.03aC installed are already armed with the expanded memory required to run the V1 upgrade. Therefore all that is required is the software upgrade itself. This will cost £195.00 in the UK incl. VAT. This will also be the price to have the V1 upgrade enabled on a new VR3.

195 quid??!? Jaysus... One pissed off VR3 owner here.

**RichClark** · 14th October 2005, 15:24

Quote: (Originally Posted by Barrie Law)

If your computer has the later body style (circlips visible behind the switch pockets and a 7 pin I/O connector) and has software version V2.1 CXR or V3.03aB installed, you will need to buy the expanded memory required and the software upgrade. The price for this will be £393.00 incl. VAT.

WOW!!

£395 for the upgrade! I was expecting it to be pricey, but that's quite some sum!

I think I'll stick with Buhlman and Pyle stops, and continue to ammend the curve myself... I'm in no hurry to get out of the water.
VR3, the only dive computer you'll ever need, depending on wehther you can afford to own it

Cheers

Rich

***Beanie*** · 14th October 2005, 15:37

for £195 or £395 am I a B or a C?
Think I'll stick with making up the bit in the middle

do aal the VR£ stops and addd in some VPB stylee ones of my own

***diverklondike*** · 14th October 2005, 15:40

well think about how pissed off some of the people are that have pre oct 2004 units....

Janos · 14th October 2005, 15:49

It is a little pricey. But thanks to Barrie for being the "messenger"

Janos

***diverklondike*** · 14th October 2005, 15:59

the reallity of deciding the value will be based on what some of the actual profiles look like...

I am rather tired of the VR-3 adding more shallow time when i am adding additional deeps stops and smoothing the curve..

**RichClark** · 14th October 2005, 16:01

Quote: (Originally Posted by Janos)

It is a little pricey. But thanks to Barrie for being the "messenger"

Janos

Yep, hopefully everyone appreciates that Barrie has no influence over Delta P's pricing. Infact Barrie is consitently the cheapest supplier around.

Cheers

Scuba_Vixen · 14th October 2005, 16:02

Makes me glad I dive an Explorer.....

Darlene

***schford*** · 14th October 2005, 16:02

Also thanks to Barrie for sponsering the site - will help to pay for the upgrade!

Stuart

14th October 2005, 15:12	#1 (permalink)
Barrie Law RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ireland Posts: 726	Vr3 VPM-B latest info from Delta P An optional new variation of the VR decompression algorithm incorporating a variable permeability model We are pleased to announce, in response to the many requests we have received over the last few months, that an upgrade will be available soon which will enable VR3 owners to use both the standard VR decompression algorithm AND a new variation of the algorithm that we have developed which incorporates a variable permeability model. We are calling this the V1 upgrade and it will provide selection of either model on a single VR3. What it does. The new algorithm is based on VPM BE and depending on gas selection and dive depth and time, it will in some cases, provide a reduced decompression requirement, although this is not always true. What the new algorithm does is smooth out the decompression profile. There are no deep micro-bubble stops and ‘normal’ decompression stops begin much deeper. Generally speaking, the intermediate stops are longer compared with the standard VR algorithm and shallower stops are shorter. A unique feature of the V1 upgrade is that, once enabled, divers can switch to the algorithm they prefer for the type of diving they are doing, even in between dives if they wish. On every dive the VR3 records tissue and bubble states using both algorithms so divers can swap between the two without compromising their ability to switch back. Product Compatibility When V1 is released, new VR3s may be ordered via Delta P dealers with the V1 upgrade already installed. Current VR3 owners may upgrade by returning their existing computer to the factory via their dealer for the work to be done. The amount of work required and the cost of the upgrade depends on the age and capabilities of the unit being upgraded. VR3s manufactured since October 2004 which have Software Version V3.03aC installed are already armed with the expanded memory required to run the V1 upgrade. Therefore all that is required is the software upgrade itself. This will cost £195.00 in the UK incl. VAT. This will also be the price to have the V1 upgrade enabled on a new VR3. If your computer has the later body style (circlips visible behind the switch pockets and a 7 pin I/O connector) and has software version V2.1 CXR or V3.03aB installed, you will need to buy the expanded memory required and the software upgrade. The price for this will be £393.00 incl. VAT. If you have a computer manufactured before June 2003 which either has no I/O connector on the side or takes a 2 pin connector and which has no visible switch circlips, then your current box cannot be fitted with the expanded memory required. So you will also need to upgrade the box to the new body style. Together with the expanded memory and software upgrade this will cost £643.00 incl. VAT. When considering upgrading one of these older units, owners using analyser or rebreather cables should be aware that the new box will have a 7 pin connector, not a 2 pin connector Cheers __________________ Barrie Law Rebreather World Store Supplying the Rebreather World Tel:US +19548403892 Fax:US+19543333792 Tel:EU+442071930496 Fax:EU+442077606344 Mobile+353876880628 Skype:barrielaw Email: barrie@rebreatherworldstore.com
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Andy M Dude Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 415	Quote: (Originally Posted by Barrie Law) VR3s manufactured since October 2004 which have Software Version V3.03aC installed are already armed with the expanded memory required to run the V1 upgrade. Therefore all that is required is the software upgrade itself. This will cost £195.00 in the UK incl. VAT. This will also be the price to have the V1 upgrade enabled on a new VR3. 195 quid??!? Jaysus... One pissed off VR3 owner here. __________________ Know your PO2 at all times
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14th October 2005, 15:24	#3 (permalink)
RichClark Classic KISS No. 226 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hove, UK Posts: 771	Quote: (Originally Posted by Barrie Law) If your computer has the later body style (circlips visible behind the switch pockets and a 7 pin I/O connector) and has software version V2.1 CXR or V3.03aB installed, you will need to buy the expanded memory required and the software upgrade. The price for this will be £393.00 incl. VAT. WOW!! £395 for the upgrade! I was expecting it to be pricey, but that's quite some sum! I think I'll stick with Buhlman and Pyle stops, and continue to ammend the curve myself... I'm in no hurry to get out of the water. VR3, the only dive computer you'll ever need, depending on wehther you can afford to own it Cheers Rich __________________ The more I learn about women, the more I want to go diving... just don't tell my wife I said that To taste something a little different, try http://www.thechillikitchen.co.uk
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14th October 2005, 15:37	#4 (permalink)
*Beanie* Politeness officer Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,205	for £195 or £395 am I a B or a C? Think I'll stick with making up the bit in the middle do aal the VR£ stops and addd in some VPB stylee ones of my own __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk www.divelife.co.uk
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*diverklondike* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,552	well think about how pissed off some of the people are that have pre oct 2004 units....
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Janos "Two Sheds" Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: East Surrey Posts: 594	It is a little pricey. But thanks to Barrie for being the "messenger" Janos __________________ You can lead a horse to water but you can't climb a ladder with a large bell in both hands - Vic Reeves www.hellfins.com/shed
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*diverklondike* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,552	the reallity of deciding the value will be based on what some of the actual profiles look like... I am rather tired of the VR-3 adding more shallow time when i am adding additional deeps stops and smoothing the curve..
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RichClark Classic KISS No. 226 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hove, UK Posts: 771	Quote: (Originally Posted by Janos) It is a little pricey. But thanks to Barrie for being the "messenger" Janos Yep, hopefully everyone appreciates that Barrie has no influence over Delta P's pricing. Infact Barrie is consitently the cheapest supplier around. Cheers __________________ The more I learn about women, the more I want to go diving... just don't tell my wife I said that To taste something a little different, try http://www.thechillikitchen.co.uk
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*schford* Despotic Overlord Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,671	Also thanks to Barrie for sponsering the site - will help to pay for the upgrade! Stuart
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