pro-planner and vista

lakkes

I have a problem with pro planner and my vista.
Does not work.
Any idea?

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steveharriss

at the risk of being a clever arse...go back to XP. There is nothing in Vista that is going to make your life better. It says something when one of the biggest sellers of Windows operating systems (Dell) now has to offer XP as an option!!

matt crane

Unfortunately there is no workaround I tried everything when I built my new PC with Vista installed eventually I phoned Delta-P to be told there was no way to get them it to work BUT that they were working on a Windows Version of Pro-Planner that was due for release soon.

That was last Jul/Aug so dont hold your breath

schnappi

if you want to keep vista (and be it just for avoiding reinstalling all software after downgrading) i would suggest you use vmware or virtualbox and install xp or even 2000 in the vm and allow it to access your physical serial port.

using that approach i even managed to get a lot of even very old software back to live...


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Icejon

I use Vista Ultimate myself at home and I can assure you it is relatively unproblematic software. The operating system itself is relatively flawless on my new system. The trick to get Vista working is that it is a terrible upgrade software. That means that its terrible when it is used as an upgrade from XP. Vista doesn't like older hardware and absolutely hates older software.

The best thing to do is use Vista on a gaming, media/entertainment only system. Video games with their aggressive release cycles are programmed with Vista in mind and there are few compatibility issues. It is up to software companies to do a great job programming the software around Vista, and many smaller software companies and older business software don't have the resources to redo their software to make it work. They just get on the "blame" Vista bandwagon. I assure you that in November 2006 when Vista was launched all the software companies had Vista dev kits 2-6 months prior. We still have major software companies like symantec and adobe have issues with Vista.

Just my two cents.

Run a dual boot, that would be a great solution.

jradomski

or Virtual PC from Microsoft (its free) and works well for those programs that are not written to spec and need XP...

I've been using vista business on a laptop for a year now and its by far much more stable than any version of XP as long as the software you are using is compatible... The biggest problem with most applications is the Vitual Store.. Alot of old applications do not like this even though vendors had A LONG time to implement compatibility (Microsoft wrote the guidelines for w2k) but just began enfrocing it with Vista.. If the publisher wrote to the guidlines posted back then most software would work (Hardware drivers are a different issue)..

Luckily alot of "broken" software can be enabled albeit at the loss of the new security features.. First find the application and right click and choose properties... then choose the run as administrator option.. This will do away with the virtual stor for that aplication.. You can also click the run in compatibility mode (like xp sp2) which fixes programs that have otehr issues like graphics glitches..

The virtual store protects everything in the program files directory and only allows administrator access to change the files.. Every user gets its own local copy of a file.. This means say you had a file called tech.cfg, each user that changed and save the file has his/her own unique copy.. SO programs that depend on shared data have issues...

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nigelh

I've been running Proplanner under DosBox (ver 0.72) and it's a bit geeky to set up but it runs in a window nicely.

Vista is only a problem if you want it to be a problem. A bit slow I grant you but that's anything Micro$oft these days.

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hoppyinca

what processor and how much cache/ ram do you have? I went to a vista transition seminar; they were talking minimum of 1Gig of ram for it to work okay... but if you really want to take advantage of it you need 3Gig... of RAM!

aren't the security features the whole reason vista exists?

watch for a reply from above, vista does need considerably more RAM than any other OS. adding some will make it run faster.

P.S. down with the evil empire!!!! used/ recycled laptops with any recent version of linux works great! sorry, i'll control myself better...

hoppy

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jradomski

My laptop has 2 gigs of ram with mediocre speed AMD dualcore processor..

It runs ok with 1 gig as long as you have a fast hard drive.. less than this forget it..

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nigelh

Grief no. Vista exists to foist more of this CLR/NETx rubbish onto the world.

Turning off some (most?) of the Vista security features does wonders for your blood pressure.

And CLR only exists to make up for the fact that most of the muppets they call computer programmers these days can't write code that doesn't leak like something that took a 22" torp in the boiler room.

Back to Pro-planner. I've used it in a window for ages on XP and Vista. DosBox runs quite a few old bits of software provided you don't want accurate timing or coms. It was designed, I believe, for old DOS games. It's free. Google for it.

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