Universal Rebreather Monitor Review

colinj · 12th May 2007, 14:46

Quote: (Originally Posted by SimonK)

Upgrade options are covered on the DeltP web site.

http://www.vr3.co.uk/downloads/RebreatherMonitors.pdf

The bad news on cost is that someone has just been prosecuted for trying to sell one of his own kidneys to raise money, so you will have to find some other way to pay for it. The URM does not replace the AP electronics, you still need them to control the O2.

Simon

Thanks Simon,
seems pretty pointless chucking away a good kidney then as I can get the fourth cell connection to work my safety factor to my VR3. I really wanted a controller option from Delta P which would let me swap out my handsets.

decoweenie · 3rd June 2007, 12:21

Quote: (Originally Posted by schford)

I will do one for you tomorrow Phi. You basically use one of the spare ports with a PG7 connector.

Any chance for the pic yet, Stuart ? TIA...

drew_b · 18th June 2007, 10:59

Can anyone confirm whether the VR3 with the rebreather monitor software installed can be used by itself as a 3ppo2 monitor/computer just like the Shearwater without the HUD, backup displays, etc?

Ta

SimonK · 19th June 2007, 11:48

Quote: (Originally Posted by drew_b)

Can anyone confirm whether the VR3 with the rebreather monitor software installed can be used by itself as a 3ppo2 monitor/computer just like the Shearwater without the HUD, backup displays, etc?

Ta

I think the answer is no, but you could check with DeltaP.

My guess, from looking at the configuration, is that the standard VR3 has one analoug input on the connector. For the URM they re-route the serial link used by the IR link to the connector (thats why you loose the IR link). The URMs triangular 'connection block' contains two more analouge inputs with the data sent back to the VR3 over the re-routed serial link.

In summary without the triangular block you only have one analouge input so can only monitor one cell. Of course this is a guess and I could be talking bollox.

Simon

aquaxel · 3rd August 2007, 07:01

after several breakdowns and floodings of my original kiss displays im now on the way to get the universal reb monitor.

after some research on stuarts article and on the delta p website some missing info i only found on the jetsam page.

just to make sure following questions and if anyone can info, answer or confirm them:

is there a spec sheet for the triple po2 backup display?

can u run and calibrate the backup display without a vr3 pc?

stuart mentioned that the calibration is done by turning the 3 black caps on the back side of the backup display. ?

does the backup display has backlit function?

thanks...

Dan · 3rd August 2007, 20:39

Quote: (Originally Posted by aquaxel)

after several breakdowns and floodings of my original kiss displays im now on the way to get the universal reb monitor.

Yes, same for me.

Quote: (Originally Posted by aquaxel)

is there a spec sheet for the triple po2 backup display?

I don't know how much information you need, but in this pdf you can find some.
Rebreather monito 3xcell.pdf

Quote: (Originally Posted by aquaxel)

can u run and calibrate the backup display without a vr3 pc?

Yes.

Quote: (Originally Posted by aquaxel)

stuart mentioned that the calibration is done by turning the 3 black caps on the back side of the backup display. ?

does the backup display has backlit function?

thanks...

Yes, see the pdf
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Dived mine for the first time today - marvellous!
I could leave over half of my toolbox at home!

But:
- It is tight to connect the Fischer plug to the kidney.
- I put the core module at the bottom of my Narked@90-stand and lead the wire thru the lung case. But then the wire for the VR3 is 20 cm to short.
(I will probably make an short wire with fischer plugs.)

Still this is, IMHO, the best upgrade for a CK.
//Dan

**Gill Envy** · 3rd August 2007, 21:16

is it possile to purchase just the back up po2 display? if possible, does anyone have the pricing on that?
g

**Monkey** · 3rd August 2007, 21:23

Quote: (Originally Posted by Gill Envy)

is it possile to purchase just the back up po2 display? if possible, does anyone have the pricing on that?
g

you can buy it as an after market upgrade for a KISS... so I would think yes you can

I have the URM.... and I really like the back up.... it reacts very fast to PO2 changes....

aquaxel · 4th August 2007, 04:34

great thanks. all questions answered.

David Pye · 17th August 2007, 13:04

Here's a question I've got, which I'll find the answer to in a couple of weeks when my upgraded VR3 and URM get back, but I thought I'd ask it first anyway!

I'm going to have to buy a KISS kidney for the DeltaP displays in order to use the URM, as mine has three cables coming out for the 'classic' Jetsam display, rather than a fischer conn.

Now, assuming that the backup display for the URM uses the same pinouts as the URM does, which I'm guessing it must, am I right in assuming that if the whole URM went wrong, I can just disconnect it and all its cabling and plug the backup display straight into the Fischer conn and run it on that if need be?

David

12th May 2007, 14:46	#31 (permalink)
colinj New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Uttoxeter Posts: 68	Re: Universal Rebreather Monitor Review Quote: (Originally Posted by SimonK) Upgrade options are covered on the DeltP web site. http://www.vr3.co.uk/downloads/RebreatherMonitors.pdf The bad news on cost is that someone has just been prosecuted for trying to sell one of his own kidneys to raise money, so you will have to find some other way to pay for it. The URM does not replace the AP electronics, you still need them to control the O2. Simon Thanks Simon, seems pretty pointless chucking away a good kidney then as I can get the fourth cell connection to work my safety factor to my VR3. I really wanted a controller option from Delta P which would let me swap out my handsets.
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3rd June 2007, 12:21	#32 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,510	Re: Universal Rebreather Monitor Review Quote: (Originally Posted by schford) I will do one for you tomorrow Phi. You basically use one of the spare ports with a PG7 connector. Any chance for the pic yet, Stuart ? TIA... __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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18th June 2007, 10:59	#33 (permalink)
drew_b New Member Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Home Build Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tasmania, Australia Posts: 16	Re: Universal Rebreather Monitor Review Can anyone confirm whether the VR3 with the rebreather monitor software installed can be used by itself as a 3ppo2 monitor/computer just like the Shearwater without the HUD, backup displays, etc? Ta
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19th June 2007, 11:48	#34 (permalink)
SimonK Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cumbria UK Posts: 231	Re: Universal Rebreather Monitor Review Quote: (Originally Posted by drew_b) Can anyone confirm whether the VR3 with the rebreather monitor software installed can be used by itself as a 3ppo2 monitor/computer just like the Shearwater without the HUD, backup displays, etc? Ta I think the answer is no, but you could check with DeltaP. My guess, from looking at the configuration, is that the standard VR3 has one analoug input on the connector. For the URM they re-route the serial link used by the IR link to the connector (thats why you loose the IR link). The URMs triangular 'connection block' contains two more analouge inputs with the data sent back to the VR3 over the re-routed serial link. In summary without the triangular block you only have one analouge input so can only monitor one cell. Of course this is a guess and I could be talking bollox. Simon
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3rd August 2007, 07:01	#35 (permalink)
aquaxel aquanaut Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: cyprus Posts: 529	Re: Universal Rebreather Monitor Review after several breakdowns and floodings of my original kiss displays im now on the way to get the universal reb monitor. after some research on stuarts article and on the delta p website some missing info i only found on the jetsam page. just to make sure following questions and if anyone can info, answer or confirm them: is there a spec sheet for the triple po2 backup display? can u run and calibrate the backup display without a vr3 pc? stuart mentioned that the calibration is done by turning the 3 black caps on the back side of the backup display. ? does the backup display has backlit function? thanks... __________________ rgds aquaxel www.aquatec-innerspace.com
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3rd August 2007, 20:39	#36 (permalink)
Dan New Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: SWEDEN Posts: 71	Re: Universal Rebreather Monitor Review Quote: (Originally Posted by aquaxel) after several breakdowns and floodings of my original kiss displays im now on the way to get the universal reb monitor. Yes, same for me. Quote: (Originally Posted by aquaxel) is there a spec sheet for the triple po2 backup display? I don't know how much information you need, but in this pdf you can find some. Rebreather monito 3xcell.pdf Quote: (Originally Posted by aquaxel) can u run and calibrate the backup display without a vr3 pc? Yes. Quote: (Originally Posted by aquaxel) stuart mentioned that the calibration is done by turning the 3 black caps on the back side of the backup display. ? does the backup display has backlit function? thanks... Yes, see the pdf ------ Dived mine for the first time today - marvellous! I could leave over half of my toolbox at home! But: - It is tight to connect the Fischer plug to the kidney. - I put the core module at the bottom of my Narked@90-stand and lead the wire thru the lung case. But then the wire for the VR3 is 20 cm to short. (I will probably make an short wire with fischer plugs.) Still this is, IMHO, the best upgrade for a CK. //Dan
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3rd August 2007, 21:16	#37 (permalink)
Gill Envy Shearwater Copis Diver Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Other CCR Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: seattle Posts: 1,255	Re: Universal Rebreather Monitor Review is it possile to purchase just the back up po2 display? if possible, does anyone have the pricing on that? g __________________ Gill Envy ...Because I wasn't born with gills! ><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>
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3rd August 2007, 21:23	#38 (permalink)
Monkey Supporting Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lauderdale By The Sea Florida Posts: 343	Re: Universal Rebreather Monitor Review Quote: (Originally Posted by Gill Envy) is it possile to purchase just the back up po2 display? if possible, does anyone have the pricing on that? g you can buy it as an after market upgrade for a KISS... so I would think yes you can I have the URM.... and I really like the back up.... it reacts very fast to PO2 changes....
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4th August 2007, 04:34	#39 (permalink)
aquaxel aquanaut Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: cyprus Posts: 529	Re: Universal Rebreather Monitor Review great thanks. all questions answered. __________________ rgds aquaxel www.aquatec-innerspace.com
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17th August 2007, 13:04	#40 (permalink)
David Pye CK 69+Shearwater Pursuit Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2006 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 157	Re: Universal Rebreather Monitor Review Here's a question I've got, which I'll find the answer to in a couple of weeks when my upgraded VR3 and URM get back, but I thought I'd ask it first anyway! I'm going to have to buy a KISS kidney for the DeltaP displays in order to use the URM, as mine has three cables coming out for the 'classic' Jetsam display, rather than a fischer conn. Now, assuming that the backup display for the URM uses the same pinouts as the URM does, which I'm guessing it must, am I right in assuming that if the whole URM went wrong, I can just disconnect it and all its cabling and plug the backup display straight into the Fischer conn and run it on that if need be? David Last edited by David Pye : 17th August 2007 at 13:08. Reason: Speeling
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