World Record - Gigi Casati Reaches -205 with Voyager Rebreather - Vrelo Cave Croatia

db8us

Hey Jerome, are you getting a WEENIE ?

Regards from India

Michael

divingtoors

Hi There

Congratulations to the team...

One day when I'm big.........

Not to take anything Away from the accomplishment, but is everybody trying to get a world records these days?

If we cannot beat the current record, we set a new category where a achievement can be recognised as a "new" record?

When are we seeing a record for temperate water? dark water, semi salient water, water with < 0.02 micron particles, water with > 0.02 micron particles, standing water, moving water, man made enclosures, foreign countries... the list is endless.
I think I might have a world record in the following cattegory..Semi shallow with 30cm surface chop (no gloves).

The list of scuba records is almost like boxing thesedays, If you want to be world champ, start a new federation/organisation (WBO, WBA, WBF, WBB)


Regards

Johan

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decoweenie

LMAO...

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Drmike

Many/most people who are pushing the envelope are being sponsored. expeditions arent cheap. We can be talking about a LOT of money. Sponsors and future sponsors want publicity = marketing = mag articles = catchy marketing headlines.
" NICE DEEP CAVE DIVE" is not a eye catching headline for the average scoobydoo dive mag buyer or mnf advert it is.
"WORLD RECORD* CAVE DIVE" is (*insert relevant differential)

Dont hate the player hate the game

Some divers are very marketing orientated - why not if its their business? - why not if it means the difference between recieving USD10K worth of gear sponsorship without which they couldnt afford to do it

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Mdemon

Every other sport does - why not this one? The Olympics would be a bit dull without world records.

I do agree slightly on the "category" though - what's the difference between a 205m dive in cold or in warm water if you have the right equipment?

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decoweenie

The risk of thermal equipment failure, IMHO.

A cave dive in very cold water (i.e. Plura cave in Norway for example) carries a bigger risk than a warmwater cave dive of equal depth.

I am referring to the deco phase of the dive where the difference in temperature is bigger.

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Drmike

tear a drysuit seal in this temp water with 5 hours of deco ahead of you and your chances of surviving the dive arent that high. Personally I wouldnt even attempt it without one, possibly two, habitats and protocols for changing into fresh suit inside the deep one. Or maybe a long warm water hose from the surface to flush flooded suit and keep diver warm.


Add reduced deco efficiency into the mix due to lower body temp and diver is at increased risk of bends too.

Such dives in cold water are far riskier than same dive in warm and deserve that to be acknowledged.

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divingtoors

Hi

Interresting...

Thus we can deduct that the Brits, the NJ divers and the South African Western Cape divers the best divers in the world, based on that analogy...

Our and their water is mostly low visibility, between 8'C and 15'C (very cold), strong, surgy. Open ocean dives.
45 min deco is 8'C water, with a torn drysuit seal and u will not make it either.....

The guys do training at one of our local tech facilities (an old abandonned asbestos mine) where the water temp seldom reaches more than 15' C and even less at depth and the max depth is +/- 135m, and then should rate in the "top" divers in the world.?? (They can't go deeper because it isn't deeper.)

Personal friends have dived in a "mine dam/lake" called Samada, with <1m viz, (brown muddy water) to a depth of 80m (bottomed out) & 10'C on the surface ..
Where do we draw the line for claiming records, because due to those conditions that must be a world record of some kind (In fact.. it is regarded a local provincial record, just unofficial and quite unclaimable, because there are no such records or categories in which records can be claimed. It is however still the deepest ever dive in that province (quite a flat place... )

So how do we equate apples with apples....

Any dive beyond 50m, or where a decompression ceiling is incurred, is a BIG dive, no matter where you are diving, and no matter what the "Alpha's" say..
We all know the risks..Just as many divers have perished in open ocean deco diving than in caves, records or not..

I just think the list of records are becoming a bit rudiculous....
It's is an encyclopedia that has to be read, 1000 diferent conditions...
There are so many these days that nobody even knows actually, who has done what.

Isn't that doing exactly what must not be done to a record, by taking the prestige out of it? One off these days we won't be able to claim a record, because it won't be worth the paperwork.

All things being equal, and trip sponsorships by the way side, if U want to claim a record, go to the best conditions possible, do it as long as possible for a deep as possible.

The last I remember is Nuno Gomes did a 318.25m in the Red Sea (later converted to 325m due to line stretch, but not recognised by the diver!!) on OC. I heard that even that has been surpassed.

The latest freediving record, (No limits) is 240m or something???

Regards

Johan

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jhaaja

You seem to be diving in really nice warm water

We have at sea most of the times +2-3 C and in fresh water it is allways +4 below 15 meters...

So the finnish (maybe other Nordic also) must be the WORLDS best cold water divers

JH

decoweenie

Having done about 1/2 of my dives in cold water (1-13C range, average 6C) and other 1/2 in warm water, it is my opinion that coldwater diving is definitely more "difficult" from the view point of:

• Comfort
• Amount of gear
• Clutterness
• Dexterity
• Etc

On top of that, visibility (in general) is better in warmwater destinations than coldwater - as well as general surface conditions.

I know which deep dive I would prefer to do:

1. 5C in rough sea
2. 30C in Red Sea

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