Diving a Dream, Andrea Doria 2007!

viscya · 1st August 2007, 14:37

This weekend saw the fruition of a dream, the calumniation of five years of training, hard work and hundreds of dives. Five years ago, I dove the warm, clear, Caribbean waters of Cozumel, and wondered why anyone would dive off the coast of New Jersey. Yesterday, dropping down through the clear blue water off Nantucket, I saw, touched and brought back a small piece of history known as the Andrea Doria!

After the weather turned me back, last year, and again last weekend, I found that there was one spot left on the Independence II for July 29 trip. I wasn't sure if it would be "third times a charm" or "three strikes, and your out". Neptune co-operated this time, and the Independence headed out of Montauk in near flat seas with a favorable weather forecast. NOAA's 2-4 ft seas turned out to be 1-2 at most. The sun was bright and currents tolerable (mostly).

Terry and Mark dropped down an existing morning line, and drifted across the wreck in search of another good tie-in. They were quickly done, and the pool was open. There was current on the surface, but nothing unmanageable. Danny and Brandon were nearly dressed, and quickly got in while the conditions were favorable. Anne and I soon followed.

The water on the surface was clear and blue, but was pushing hard against us. Light penetrated down to the thermocline at 50 ft. Here a cloudy layer was absorbing the light and it quickly became cold and dark. The temp dropped to 47, but down a few feet the vis cleared up a bit. We dropped into the blackness. Down... down... The only thing we can see is the rope and plankton illuminated by our lights. Down... down.. 100, 120... (I'm convinced the boogie man at the bottom is not so scary as his brother Murphy we strap on our backs.) Captain Dan told us the sounder reading to the top of the wreck at 195. When beacons suddenly came into view at 130, I knew the visibility on the wreck was good.

The decent to this point had been hand over hand against the current, but now the current dropped off at 150 ft. I had been monitoring my pO2 and adding gas to the drysuit, but with the current there was no need to put gas in the wing. Dumping gas into it now did not stop my now rapid decent, and I was soon kneeling on the hull. More gas ... pO2 is good... more gas.... Ok neutral. Clip off my beacon. OK, breath... breath... Look around. Damn! port holes, port holes, and more port holes. They're everywhere. However, you can not get to them. They are on the inside, and we are on the outside. Oh well, just interesting to see. The chain was tied in close to the edge of the hull, so over and down. A few smallish openings revealed rooms with tiled floors and hallways beyond. Dropping down, the glow of the beacons above is comforting. Teakwood planks cover the deck, and debris scatters a horizontal area below. Too shallow to be the bottom, but within the beacons glow. Looking around its easy to make out the frame of windows, some with glass. Bottom time disappears quickly, and I'm sure the excitement made it go much faster! Back to the line and the long cold ascent.

The current hadn't let up. At 70 feet we were suddenly enveloped in a school of small shrimp, krill I think. For a few minutes we were surrounded. Of course you wonder if there are any predators after them. The thermocline at 30 ft brought the temp up to 76 degrees. Boy did that feel good! At this point we are all being blown horizontal like flags, parallel to the Carolina line. Time is dragging... Oops... Why is my pO2 dropping? It's usually pretty steady during deco. Hit the Kiss valve... Nothing! Shit! I can't be out. Check the O2 gauge... Zero! Shit! I can't be out! I'm still at 1.1, but it's dropping. OK, relax... I've got plenty of 50% bailout. Let me check that O2 valve. It's off? One quick turn, and the friendly hiss if the Kiss orifice can be heard. Apparently the Carolina line had rubbed against the valve and shut it off. Always Know Your pO2!

Back on board, we each discussed what we had seen, and congratulated the Doria Newbies. Dan and Brandon found a port hole they thought could be extricated from it's surroundings. Terry and Mark had flown across the wreck as the current pulled the line. A few tiles and brass handles made it aboard. We eat and talked and settled down for some R&R as Captains Dan and Jay went in for a look see.

After a nice four hour surface interval, we geared up for round two. Captains Dan and Jay had reported no current, and they were right, it was gone. This time we dropped down the line with no effort at all. I didn't bounce off the wreck either. The conditions on the wreck were unchanged. Clip off the beacon, tie off the reel, and over the edge. Anne looked left, and I looked right as we passed over the debris. Both looking at the wreck, and for some souvenir of the trip. Again there were the window frames and inaccessible port holes. One of the davits which had lowered the lifeboats stood up majestically out of the chaos below us. Our hopes were for some of the tiles others had reported. Perhaps a nice piece of teakwood could be fashioned into a memento. Again time passed quickly, and despite coming up empty handed, it was an enjoyable dive. As we left the bottom we could hear Dan and Brandon hammering off in the distance. Ascending the line was much more relaxing in the still water, but still cold below 30 ft.

Shortly after surfacing a nice hot dinner was well appreciated. The plan was for an early dive in the morning, then pull the hook and head back. Captains Dan, Jay and Terry entertained us with stories of previous Doria dives, and how much the wreck had changed. Brandon described how he had dropped his hammer into the wreck, and got stuck reaching for it . All the while his buddy, Danny, was video taping the event. There was another round of congratulations for a second Doria dive, and we were soon off to bed. The full moon rose red over the calm ocean as the gentle lap of the waves rocked us to sleep.

Captain Dan splashed early to check the current. Conditions were good, so we soon followed. There was some current on the surface but it was manageable. We had directions to one of the three swimming pools. Again the bottom conditions were great. We headed off over the side and off to the right. Past the davit. Down to 240. Time was starting to run out when we hit pay dirt. There was a huge expanse of tile, some twenty foot on a side. We dropped down to look for some more manageable chunks, and quickly bagged a few. If we can make it back to the windows in time, we can try to shoot one of them also. As fate would have it we were running late, and some monofilament delayed us long enough to prevent the extraction of our second target. That's OK, our primary target was achieved. Up the line we went, flapping in the building current, holding on for dear life. As we reached the 20 ft stop, the current became variable. One minute you're at 20, the next you're almost at the surface, then back to 20. Fortunately this was infrequent, but very disconcerting. I stuck around for a few more minutes of deco to compensate for the washing machine effect. Onboard we found that Terry and Dan had shot up some of the brass windows which Mark swam out on the surface and retrieved. They were now strapped to the deck for the long trip back. Once everyone was up we got under way. No china, but most of us had souvenirs of the trip, and memories for a life time.

Mark and Terry with brass window frame.

dantheman · 1st August 2007, 15:16

Big congrats guy!
Sounds like a great time.

--dan

XJae · 1st August 2007, 15:45

great report dave!
glad you made it out and had some great dives.
see you soon.

**Dave Sutton** · 1st August 2007, 20:26

Glad you guys enjoyed the same weather we had a few days before! Really great conditions prevail here now. Just perfect.

Bet ya found a nice mooring already in place midships.... . Hope they left it, Gary Gentile and his buddies are slated to use it and bring it back to me in a week.

Congratulations on diving the big one! Brass = good. That goes for windows as well as balls....

Dave

jhaaja · 2nd August 2007, 07:38

Nice diving! Still I don`t understand why you guys wan`t to bring stuff up from the wreck? Wouldn`t it be nicer to see the same stuff in their origianl positions on following dives?

JH

**Dave Sutton** · 2nd August 2007, 11:34

Quote: (Originally Posted by jhaaja)

Nice diving! Still I don`t understand why you guys wan`t to bring stuff up from the wreck? Wouldn`t it be nicer to see the same stuff in their origianl positions on following dives?

JH

The stuff would be under tons of steel and tons of sand in a year or two.... the wreck is falling down into a big pile. There are literally *thousands* of portholes on the wreck. Lines of them spaced 3 feet apart from bow to stern. They are not rare... Do as you do there, and leave us to do as we do here. These wrecks have a very short lifetime, in 150 years it will just be a rust smudge on the bottom. Anything taken now just prevents future total loss. Better to take that discussion elsewhere, for now just give a "well done" on a real personal achievement for a safe dive on the big one. Yes, there are deeper, better, and more challenging dives. Yet, there is only *one* Andrea Doria. There *is* something special about it....

Plus, it's good to see Terry's face framed behind that window... tell me he's not actually using a rebreather these days?

Dave

jhaaja · 2nd August 2007, 12:04

I see your point. Wrecks in our waters seem to last longer. The Baltic Sea has so little salt in the water. And we have some really old wooden wrecks as we don`t have the wood eating worm, teredo navalis or something.

Still gongrats of great dive! Would be nice to dive it myself someday...

viscya · 2nd August 2007, 21:40

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton)

... it's good to see Terry's face framed behind that window... tell me he's not actually using a rebreather these days?

Dave

There were two moorings on the wreck, but since we didn't know who might arrive when, we had to tie in separately. Terry and Mark dropped down one of the moorings with our line in tow. They drifted over the wreck for a while, then tied off.

Terry was one of the three bubble blowers on the trip. However, after this week, I think he's seriously thinking about coming over to the dark side. My 52 lb Kiss Classic weighs a lot less than his doubles, and I'm sure the Megs are not much more.

JS1scuba · 3rd August 2007, 01:41

Quote: (Originally Posted by jhaaja)

Nice diving! Still I don`t understand why you guys wan`t to bring stuff up from the wreck? Wouldn`t it be nicer to see the same stuff in their origianl positions on following dives?

JH

Ahh the great debate! The Andrea Doria is collapsing fast, things are popping off left and right and for those who are artifact hounds this is the time to get it.

Those of us who have been diving it for years have seen the change and it is changing fast now. This is not a "historically significant" site so leaving artifacts is just not done. The persona of the Doria diver is to collect artifacts. But it does take some skill and some effort.

It's just how it's done. Some take photos, some take video, some take artifacts some take all ........ Most divers only get on the Doria once in thier life. I have no problem with them taking some stuf that I will never see. I know i have a pile of stuff that they never would have seen from areas that have now collapsed.

Cheers

JDS

**Dave Sutton** · 3rd August 2007, 02:38

Quote: (Originally Posted by viscya)

There were two moorings on the wreck, but since we didn't know who might arrive when, we had to tie in separately. Terry and Mark dropped down one of the moorings with our line in tow. They drifted over the wreck for a while, then tied off.

Terry was one of the three bubble blowers on the trip. However, after this week, I think he's seriously thinking about coming over to the dark side. My 52 lb Kiss Classic weighs a lot less than his doubles, and I'm sure the Megs are not much more.

I'll send Terry a bottle of champagne when he gets rid of those old doubles...

The mooring further north is mine, it's chain caribinered thru a porthole with 5/8 line and is strong, with the bouys (2) marked "EXPLORER, Narragansett RI". Pete Piemonte placed it well on the highest part of the wreck. The other one further south has it's line rubbing on steel... not a good mooring as it'll chafe thru soon. Sending down a line to make sure is always a good plan. I wish that the guys had called me though, I would have given them the skinny on my mooring and saved Terry a dive. It ought to be there another week before it's recovered for re-use next year.

Dave

1st August 2007, 14:37	#1 (permalink)
viscya Wrecking Crew Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Marlton New Jersey Posts: 140	Diving a Dream, Andrea Doria 2007! This weekend saw the fruition of a dream, the calumniation of five years of training, hard work and hundreds of dives. Five years ago, I dove the warm, clear, Caribbean waters of Cozumel, and wondered why anyone would dive off the coast of New Jersey. Yesterday, dropping down through the clear blue water off Nantucket, I saw, touched and brought back a small piece of history known as the Andrea Doria! After the weather turned me back, last year, and again last weekend, I found that there was one spot left on the Independence II for July 29 trip. I wasn't sure if it would be "third times a charm" or "three strikes, and your out". Neptune co-operated this time, and the Independence headed out of Montauk in near flat seas with a favorable weather forecast. NOAA's 2-4 ft seas turned out to be 1-2 at most. The sun was bright and currents tolerable (mostly). Terry and Mark dropped down an existing morning line, and drifted across the wreck in search of another good tie-in. They were quickly done, and the pool was open. There was current on the surface, but nothing unmanageable. Danny and Brandon were nearly dressed, and quickly got in while the conditions were favorable. Anne and I soon followed. The water on the surface was clear and blue, but was pushing hard against us. Light penetrated down to the thermocline at 50 ft. Here a cloudy layer was absorbing the light and it quickly became cold and dark. The temp dropped to 47, but down a few feet the vis cleared up a bit. We dropped into the blackness. Down... down... The only thing we can see is the rope and plankton illuminated by our lights. Down... down.. 100, 120... (I'm convinced the boogie man at the bottom is not so scary as his brother Murphy we strap on our backs.) Captain Dan told us the sounder reading to the top of the wreck at 195. When beacons suddenly came into view at 130, I knew the visibility on the wreck was good. The decent to this point had been hand over hand against the current, but now the current dropped off at 150 ft. I had been monitoring my pO2 and adding gas to the drysuit, but with the current there was no need to put gas in the wing. Dumping gas into it now did not stop my now rapid decent, and I was soon kneeling on the hull. More gas ... pO2 is good... more gas.... Ok neutral. Clip off my beacon. OK, breath... breath... Look around. Damn! port holes, port holes, and more port holes. They're everywhere. However, you can not get to them. They are on the inside, and we are on the outside. Oh well, just interesting to see. The chain was tied in close to the edge of the hull, so over and down. A few smallish openings revealed rooms with tiled floors and hallways beyond. Dropping down, the glow of the beacons above is comforting. Teakwood planks cover the deck, and debris scatters a horizontal area below. Too shallow to be the bottom, but within the beacons glow. Looking around its easy to make out the frame of windows, some with glass. Bottom time disappears quickly, and I'm sure the excitement made it go much faster! Back to the line and the long cold ascent. The current hadn't let up. At 70 feet we were suddenly enveloped in a school of small shrimp, krill I think. For a few minutes we were surrounded. Of course you wonder if there are any predators after them. The thermocline at 30 ft brought the temp up to 76 degrees. Boy did that feel good! At this point we are all being blown horizontal like flags, parallel to the Carolina line. Time is dragging... Oops... Why is my pO2 dropping? It's usually pretty steady during deco. Hit the Kiss valve... Nothing! Shit! I can't be out. Check the O2 gauge... Zero! Shit! I can't be out! I'm still at 1.1, but it's dropping. OK, relax... I've got plenty of 50% bailout. Let me check that O2 valve. It's off? One quick turn, and the friendly hiss if the Kiss orifice can be heard. Apparently the Carolina line had rubbed against the valve and shut it off. Always Know Your pO2! Back on board, we each discussed what we had seen, and congratulated the Doria Newbies. Dan and Brandon found a port hole they thought could be extricated from it's surroundings. Terry and Mark had flown across the wreck as the current pulled the line. A few tiles and brass handles made it aboard. We eat and talked and settled down for some R&R as Captains Dan and Jay went in for a look see. After a nice four hour surface interval, we geared up for round two. Captains Dan and Jay had reported no current, and they were right, it was gone. This time we dropped down the line with no effort at all. I didn't bounce off the wreck either. The conditions on the wreck were unchanged. Clip off the beacon, tie off the reel, and over the edge. Anne looked left, and I looked right as we passed over the debris. Both looking at the wreck, and for some souvenir of the trip. Again there were the window frames and inaccessible port holes. One of the davits which had lowered the lifeboats stood up majestically out of the chaos below us. Our hopes were for some of the tiles others had reported. Perhaps a nice piece of teakwood could be fashioned into a memento. Again time passed quickly, and despite coming up empty handed, it was an enjoyable dive. As we left the bottom we could hear Dan and Brandon hammering off in the distance. Ascending the line was much more relaxing in the still water, but still cold below 30 ft. Shortly after surfacing a nice hot dinner was well appreciated. The plan was for an early dive in the morning, then pull the hook and head back. Captains Dan, Jay and Terry entertained us with stories of previous Doria dives, and how much the wreck had changed. Brandon described how he had dropped his hammer into the wreck, and got stuck reaching for it . All the while his buddy, Danny, was video taping the event. There was another round of congratulations for a second Doria dive, and we were soon off to bed. The full moon rose red over the calm ocean as the gentle lap of the waves rocked us to sleep. Captain Dan splashed early to check the current. Conditions were good, so we soon followed. There was some current on the surface but it was manageable. We had directions to one of the three swimming pools. Again the bottom conditions were great. We headed off over the side and off to the right. Past the davit. Down to 240. Time was starting to run out when we hit pay dirt. There was a huge expanse of tile, some twenty foot on a side. We dropped down to look for some more manageable chunks, and quickly bagged a few. If we can make it back to the windows in time, we can try to shoot one of them also. As fate would have it we were running late, and some monofilament delayed us long enough to prevent the extraction of our second target. That's OK, our primary target was achieved. Up the line we went, flapping in the building current, holding on for dear life. As we reached the 20 ft stop, the current became variable. One minute you're at 20, the next you're almost at the surface, then back to 20. Fortunately this was infrequent, but very disconcerting. I stuck around for a few more minutes of deco to compensate for the washing machine effect. Onboard we found that Terry and Dan had shot up some of the brass windows which Mark swam out on the surface and retrieved. They were now strapped to the deck for the long trip back. Once everyone was up we got under way. No china, but most of us had souvenirs of the trip, and memories for a life time. Mark and Terry with brass window frame. __________________ "There is nothing majestic or dignified about being left to silently rot and collapse under heaps of old fishing net forgotten and unappreciated in dark and unvisited waters." DrMike
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1st August 2007, 15:16	#2 (permalink)
dantheman Emoticonoclast Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss rEvo Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Join Date: May 2005 Location: NorthEast USA Posts: 394	Re: Diving a Dream, Andrea Doria 2007! Big congrats guy! Sounds like a great time. --dan
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1st August 2007, 15:45	#3 (permalink)
XJae New Member Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 58	Re: Diving a Dream, Andrea Doria 2007! great report dave! glad you made it out and had some great dives. see you soon.
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1st August 2007, 20:26	#4 (permalink)
Dave Sutton Diveshop of Horrors Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island and Hackettstown, New Jersey Posts: 2,689	Re: Diving a Dream, Andrea Doria 2007! Glad you guys enjoyed the same weather we had a few days before! Really great conditions prevail here now. Just perfect. Bet ya found a nice mooring already in place midships.... . Hope they left it, Gary Gentile and his buddies are slated to use it and bring it back to me in a week. Congratulations on diving the big one! Brass = good. That goes for windows as well as balls.... Dave __________________ "Changes in Lattitudes, Changes in Attitudes, Nothing remains quite the same".... www.nobubblediving.com Last edited by Dave Sutton : 1st August 2007 at 20:35.
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2nd August 2007, 07:38	#5 (permalink)
jhaaja Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 884	Re: Diving a Dream, Andrea Doria 2007! Nice diving! Still I don`t understand why you guys wan`t to bring stuff up from the wreck? Wouldn`t it be nicer to see the same stuff in their origianl positions on following dives? JH
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2nd August 2007, 11:34	#6 (permalink)
Dave Sutton Diveshop of Horrors Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island and Hackettstown, New Jersey Posts: 2,689	Re: Diving a Dream, Andrea Doria 2007! Quote: (Originally Posted by jhaaja) Nice diving! Still I don`t understand why you guys wan`t to bring stuff up from the wreck? Wouldn`t it be nicer to see the same stuff in their origianl positions on following dives? JH The stuff would be under tons of steel and tons of sand in a year or two.... the wreck is falling down into a big pile. There are literally thousands of portholes on the wreck. Lines of them spaced 3 feet apart from bow to stern. They are not rare... Do as you do there, and leave us to do as we do here. These wrecks have a very short lifetime, in 150 years it will just be a rust smudge on the bottom. Anything taken now just prevents future total loss. Better to take that discussion elsewhere, for now just give a "well done" on a real personal achievement for a safe dive on the big one. Yes, there are deeper, better, and more challenging dives. Yet, there is only one Andrea Doria. There is something special about it.... Plus, it's good to see Terry's face framed behind that window... tell me he's not actually using a rebreather these days? Dave __________________ "Changes in Lattitudes, Changes in Attitudes, Nothing remains quite the same".... www.nobubblediving.com Last edited by Dave Sutton : 2nd August 2007 at 11:37.
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2nd August 2007, 12:04	#7 (permalink)
jhaaja Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 884	Re: Diving a Dream, Andrea Doria 2007! I see your point. Wrecks in our waters seem to last longer. The Baltic Sea has so little salt in the water. And we have some really old wooden wrecks as we don`t have the wood eating worm, teredo navalis or something. Still gongrats of great dive! Would be nice to dive it myself someday...
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2nd August 2007, 21:40	#8 (permalink)
viscya Wrecking Crew Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Marlton New Jersey Posts: 140	Re: Diving a Dream, Andrea Doria 2007! Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton) ... it's good to see Terry's face framed behind that window... tell me he's not actually using a rebreather these days? Dave There were two moorings on the wreck, but since we didn't know who might arrive when, we had to tie in separately. Terry and Mark dropped down one of the moorings with our line in tow. They drifted over the wreck for a while, then tied off. Terry was one of the three bubble blowers on the trip. However, after this week, I think he's seriously thinking about coming over to the dark side. My 52 lb Kiss Classic weighs a lot less than his doubles, and I'm sure the Megs are not much more. __________________ "There is nothing majestic or dignified about being left to silently rot and collapse under heaps of old fishing net forgotten and unappreciated in dark and unvisited waters." DrMike
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3rd August 2007, 01:41	#9 (permalink)
JS1scuba RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Lake Havasu City, AZ - USA Posts: 494	Re: Diving a Dream, Andrea Doria 2007! Quote: (Originally Posted by jhaaja) Nice diving! Still I don`t understand why you guys wan`t to bring stuff up from the wreck? Wouldn`t it be nicer to see the same stuff in their origianl positions on following dives? JH Ahh the great debate! The Andrea Doria is collapsing fast, things are popping off left and right and for those who are artifact hounds this is the time to get it. Those of us who have been diving it for years have seen the change and it is changing fast now. This is not a "historically significant" site so leaving artifacts is just not done. The persona of the Doria diver is to collect artifacts. But it does take some skill and some effort. It's just how it's done. Some take photos, some take video, some take artifacts some take all ........ Most divers only get on the Doria once in thier life. I have no problem with them taking some stuf that I will never see. I know i have a pile of stuff that they never would have seen from areas that have now collapsed. Cheers JDS __________________ Joel Silverstein, VP COO Tech Diving Limited a Division of Scuba Training and Technology Inc. http://www.nautilusdiveplanner.com http://www.nobubblediving.com
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3rd August 2007, 02:38	#10 (permalink)
Dave Sutton Diveshop of Horrors Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island and Hackettstown, New Jersey Posts: 2,689	Re: Diving a Dream, Andrea Doria 2007! Quote: (Originally Posted by viscya) There were two moorings on the wreck, but since we didn't know who might arrive when, we had to tie in separately. Terry and Mark dropped down one of the moorings with our line in tow. They drifted over the wreck for a while, then tied off. Terry was one of the three bubble blowers on the trip. However, after this week, I think he's seriously thinking about coming over to the dark side. My 52 lb Kiss Classic weighs a lot less than his doubles, and I'm sure the Megs are not much more. I'll send Terry a bottle of champagne when he gets rid of those old doubles... The mooring further north is mine, it's chain caribinered thru a porthole with 5/8 line and is strong, with the bouys (2) marked "EXPLORER, Narragansett RI". Pete Piemonte placed it well on the highest part of the wreck. The other one further south has it's line rubbing on steel... not a good mooring as it'll chafe thru soon. Sending down a line to make sure is always a good plan. I wish that the guys had called me though, I would have given them the skinny on my mooring and saved Terry a dive. It ought to be there another week before it's recovered for re-use next year. Dave __________________ "Changes in Lattitudes, Changes in Attitudes, Nothing remains quite the same".... www.nobubblediving.com
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