Titan CCR

***caveseeker7*** · 5th June 2006, 07:53

Wow, two 2 liter tanks flanking a scrubber with a single counterlung on top.
Haven't seen that ... since the 70's Shadow Pack I from Divematics USA.

That one was a bit taller though, due to the 8 lbs radial scrubber.

Danil · 5th June 2006, 08:07

Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7)

Wow, two 2 liter tanks flanking a scrubber with a single counterlung on top.
Haven't seen that ... since the 70's Shadow Pack I from Divematics USA.

That one was a bit taller though, due to the 8 lbs radial scrubber.

so how about the Shadowpack III, any news on release date?

**rigdiver** · 5th June 2006, 13:54

Quote: (Originally Posted by Danil)

so how about the Shadowpack III, any news on release date?

With the passing of Rob it will probably be a very long time.
Bill

Crazyduck · 5th June 2006, 14:17

To quote the man himself-
April 13th- Rob Davies
“I've been doing a lot of diving in the tank at Ocean Corporation doing developmental work on the Shadow. Other than that, I've been going crazy getting ready for my Red Sea trip.”
Man, I miss you Rob!

Bill,
WHAT have you been up to sir?

Are you divemastering this year in the gulf?

Later all, Andrew

**rigdiver** · 6th June 2006, 17:54

Quote: (Originally Posted by Crazyduck)

To quote the man himself-
April 13th- Rob Davies
“I've been doing a lot of diving in the tank at Ocean Corporation doing developmental work on the Shadow. Other than that, I've been going crazy getting ready for my Red Sea trip.”
Man, I miss you Rob!

Bill,
WHAT have you been up to sir?

Are you divemastering this year in the gulf?

Later all, Andrew

Ditto on missing Rob. He was a personal friend and mentor. I miss him like I can't explain.
The boat I worked on has been sold and going back to work in the oilfield. No DM job for me in the Gulf for now.
Bill

***Louby Lou*** · 14th June 2006, 20:40

Quote: (Originally Posted by RonMicjan)

yup, still a ways from production, but closer than some other folks for sure. An adv will be standard, it just wasnt ready at this time. The unit did get some water time, so it does work. Louby lou is supposed to be copying the article over to Rebreather World, so look for it to be posted here soon.

Hey Folks

Sorry for the delay, just got from holiday and its been a bit manic

Ron's article on the Titan is now up and running in the library HERE. Please can you use this thread to ask any questions, comments or feedback on the unit

Thanks again Ron

Cheers

Lou

Crazyduck · 14th June 2006, 22:09

Great write up Ron!

Well, the system is very interesting but as you mentioned has some issues.

I am not thrilled about having the solenoid mounted in the breathing loop. (no,no)
I do not like the cobbled low pressure hoses; how are they going to fit other size tanks?
The case while nice is outdated compared to the travel cases that everyone seems to be moving towards. So that could be a nice change and reduction.
Single bladder gives me a bit of concern with volumetric gas flow and speed through the 'ash tray' (oh micropore thingy.) Someone pass the kitty litter.
The airlines typically destroy luggage- PERIOD. So taking the filters would take up a lot of space and having them delivered to some places in the third world would be a joke. Flight restrictions would also impose on the case.
Manual injection into the loop is a requirement- KISS style or other.
BOV- a must (or at least as an accessory.)
XS scuba is NOT a brand name that I trust with gas delivery. Diverite maybe, Poseidon heck yeah.

Question-
How were the sensors after the dive? Dry, moist, floating in lung butter?

Personally I would rather have the Sports KISS and the Shearwater Electronics or the Shadowpack with Shearwater electronics.

What I would like-
Duel counterlungs, manual injection (both gasses), basic scrubber case, small (stingray style) back counterlung case or prefer OTS counterlungs, Diverite regulators, BOV.
Yeah, it’s a start…

I guess a lot will have to do with pricing…
Interesting..
later, Andrew

RebreatherDave · 26th June 2006, 23:13

You MUST get rid those ratcheting plastic hose clamps in the production version. I have had plenty of those catastrophically fail and completely release after just several years of use on hoses used on salt water reef tank filtration systems.

I did go over the unit briefly at the Long Beach Scuba show yesterday, its not vaproware.

Either you guys are too hard on manufacturers who show pre-production prototypes, or you've been spoiled by the slick engineering execution of production Vision electronics by AP, or both. You have to do quick and dirty fiberglass hand layups in quick and dirty prototype molds before you commit to making expensive molds for ABS injection for the final product.

The unit was nice and small, but I didn't really pour over it.

wrecktek · 31st August 2006, 20:22

Hi ALL

Anyone have a copy of the Manual for the Titan they can post somewhere?

***diverklondike*** · 31st August 2006, 20:52

Quote: (Originally Posted by wrecktek)

Hi ALL

Anyone have a copy of the Manual for the Titan they can post somewhere?

It's still in pre-production mode as far as I know... Based on that I would expect that the manual is non-existant at this point.

5th June 2006, 08:07	#32 (permalink)
Danil Meg Diver Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Karlstad, Sweden Posts: 108	Re: Titan CCR Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7) Wow, two 2 liter tanks flanking a scrubber with a single counterlung on top. Haven't seen that ... since the 70's Shadow Pack I from Divematics USA. That one was a bit taller though, due to the 8 lbs radial scrubber. so how about the Shadowpack III, any news on release date? __________________ -------------------- Dan Nilsson, Meg 67
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5th June 2006, 13:54	#33 (permalink)
rigdiver LEARNING CONTINUALLY Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: TEXAS Posts: 405	Re: Titan CCR Quote: (Originally Posted by Danil) so how about the Shadowpack III, any news on release date? With the passing of Rob it will probably be a very long time. Bill
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5th June 2006, 14:17	#34 (permalink)
Crazyduck Underwater Mechanic Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: TEXAS, Dallas/ Ft.Worth Posts: 694	Re: Titan CCR To quote the man himself- April 13th- Rob Davies “I've been doing a lot of diving in the tank at Ocean Corporation doing developmental work on the Shadow. Other than that, I've been going crazy getting ready for my Red Sea trip.” Man, I miss you Rob! Bill, WHAT have you been up to sir? Are you divemastering this year in the gulf? Later all, Andrew __________________ Howdy Senor- What’s Happening! Rob Davie April 2005- Presently in a state of transition from Open Circuit to Closed Circuit. "You will not be punished for your anger; you will be punished by it." - Buddha.
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6th June 2006, 17:54	#35 (permalink)
rigdiver LEARNING CONTINUALLY Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: TEXAS Posts: 405	Re: Titan CCR Quote: (Originally Posted by Crazyduck) To quote the man himself- April 13th- Rob Davies “I've been doing a lot of diving in the tank at Ocean Corporation doing developmental work on the Shadow. Other than that, I've been going crazy getting ready for my Red Sea trip.” Man, I miss you Rob! Bill, WHAT have you been up to sir? Are you divemastering this year in the gulf? Later all, Andrew Ditto on missing Rob. He was a personal friend and mentor. I miss him like I can't explain. The boat I worked on has been sold and going back to work in the oilfield. No DM job for me in the Gulf for now. Bill
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14th June 2006, 20:40	#36 (permalink)
*Louby Lou* Slave to an MSc Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Roman Corinium! Posts: 1,016	Re: Titan CCR Quote: (Originally Posted by RonMicjan) yup, still a ways from production, but closer than some other folks for sure. An adv will be standard, it just wasnt ready at this time. The unit did get some water time, so it does work. Louby lou is supposed to be copying the article over to Rebreather World, so look for it to be posted here soon. Hey Folks Sorry for the delay, just got from holiday and its been a bit manic Ron's article on the Titan is now up and running in the library HERE. Please can you use this thread to ask any questions, comments or feedback on the unit Thanks again Ron Cheers Lou __________________ Miss Lou x Use of Rebreather World is subject to the Rebreatherworld Terms and Conditions - Please read! Outlaw Divers - Sssh we're diving! You heff vays uff dealink vis zem, oh Miss Rebreather World Admin! - Rob Davie Feb 06
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14th June 2006, 22:09	#37 (permalink)
Crazyduck Underwater Mechanic Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: TEXAS, Dallas/ Ft.Worth Posts: 694	Re: Titan CCR Great write up Ron! Well, the system is very interesting but as you mentioned has some issues. I am not thrilled about having the solenoid mounted in the breathing loop. (no,no) I do not like the cobbled low pressure hoses; how are they going to fit other size tanks? The case while nice is outdated compared to the travel cases that everyone seems to be moving towards. So that could be a nice change and reduction. Single bladder gives me a bit of concern with volumetric gas flow and speed through the 'ash tray' (oh micropore thingy.) Someone pass the kitty litter. The airlines typically destroy luggage- PERIOD. So taking the filters would take up a lot of space and having them delivered to some places in the third world would be a joke. Flight restrictions would also impose on the case. Manual injection into the loop is a requirement- KISS style or other. BOV- a must (or at least as an accessory.) XS scuba is NOT a brand name that I trust with gas delivery. Diverite maybe, Poseidon heck yeah. Question- How were the sensors after the dive? Dry, moist, floating in lung butter? Personally I would rather have the Sports KISS and the Shearwater Electronics or the Shadowpack with Shearwater electronics. What I would like- Duel counterlungs, manual injection (both gasses), basic scrubber case, small (stingray style) back counterlung case or prefer OTS counterlungs, Diverite regulators, BOV. Yeah, it’s a start… I guess a lot will have to do with pricing… Interesting.. later, Andrew __________________ Howdy Senor- What’s Happening! Rob Davie April 2005- Presently in a state of transition from Open Circuit to Closed Circuit. "You will not be punished for your anger; you will be punished by it." - Buddha.
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26th June 2006, 23:13	#38 (permalink)
RebreatherDave Maximum **** Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s:** Join Date: May 2005 Location: L.A., where the debris meets the sea Posts: 227	Re: Titan CCR You MUST get rid those ratcheting plastic hose clamps in the production version. I have had plenty of those catastrophically fail and completely release after just several years of use on hoses used on salt water reef tank filtration systems. I did go over the unit briefly at the Long Beach Scuba show yesterday, its not vaproware. Either you guys are too hard on manufacturers who show pre-production prototypes, or you've been spoiled by the slick engineering execution of production Vision electronics by AP, or both. You have to do quick and dirty fiberglass hand layups in quick and dirty prototype molds before you commit to making expensive molds for ABS injection for the final product. The unit was nice and small, but I didn't really pour over it. Last edited by RebreatherDave : 26th June 2006 at 23:17.
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31st August 2006, 20:22	#39 (permalink)
wrecktek New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: usa Posts: 8	Re: Titan CCR Hi ALL Anyone have a copy of the Manual for the Titan they can post somewhere?
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31st August 2006, 20:52	#40 (permalink)
*diverklondike* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,435	Re: Titan CCR Quote: (Originally Posted by wrecktek) Hi ALL Anyone have a copy of the Manual for the Titan they can post somewhere? It's still in pre-production mode as far as I know... Based on that I would expect that the manual is non-existant at this point.
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