Diver Lift/Elevator?

USSMEG · 5th May 2008, 12:37

I noticed in this video (see below) this diver lift/elevator. Can anyone point me to the manufactures for these? We are looking into one for a boat here (USA) and do not want to have to recreate the wheel. Fast forward to near the end and you will see it, if we have to we will build our own, but want some idea's before we do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgLeti3w5rw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgLeti3w5rw

http://thedecostop.com/forums/showpost.php?p=350772&postcount=1

Thanks Paul

SimonK · 5th May 2008, 13:15

I think the lifts are usually made locally, lots of UK dive boats have similar designs.

The boat in the video is North Star: Boat Charter & Accommodation in Eyemouth, Scotland

You could drop Iain and Jim a line I'm sure they will be happy to give you some details.

Simon

Dave IR · 5th May 2008, 13:26

Diver lifts are de-facto in the UK, after the inventor - the late Andy Smith introduced it on his boat Skin Deep in the 90s.

Some boats even have 2 now, for safety and convienience:

YouTube - Beowulf diver recovery

These ones are made by Rob Allen of this parish.

He makes them to order.

Johnny Christensen · 5th May 2008, 15:14

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave IR)

Diver lifts are de-facto in the UK,

It would be awfully tempting to say: If customers can't climb the ladder, should they really be diving?

Gear is not everything, a certain level of physical and mental fitness is an absolute requirement for succes.

nicothesailer · 5th May 2008, 15:56

Quote: (Originally Posted by Johnny Christensen)

It would be awfully tempting to say: If customers can't climb the ladder, should they really be diving?

Gear is not everything, a certain level of physical and mental fitness is an absolute requirement for succes.

Gimme a lift any day regardless of weather!

**nigelh** · 5th May 2008, 16:06

Quote: (Originally Posted by Johnny Christensen)

It would be awfully tempting to say: If customers can't climb the ladder, should they really be diving?

But you wouldn't dare because we'd call you a macho poser.

Quote:

Gear is not everything, a certain level of physical and mental fitness is an absolute requirement for succes.

I always thought that exertion after a long deco was considered a very bad move.
Lifts are common in the UK and we like them.
I can climb a ladder but why should I?
I do this for fun.

diverreb · 5th May 2008, 16:13

Quote: (Originally Posted by Johnny Christensen)

It would be awfully tempting to say: If customers can't climb the ladder, should they really be diving?

Gear is not everything, a certain level of physical and mental fitness is an absolute requirement for succes.

Why Electronic CCR's? Why Dive Computers? Why any convenience item that makes diving easier?

It's not to say that divers can't climb a ladder, but the lift idea sure looks like it's a great way to get back on a boat with a heavy load of crap on your back and hooked all over your body. Climbing a ladder in rough seas is a pain in the butt. Why not have a better way of doing it?

I'm all for it....

Richie

Ben Field · 5th May 2008, 16:16

Quote: (Originally Posted by Johnny Christensen)

It would be awfully tempting to say: If customers can't climb the ladder, should they really be diving?

Gear is not everything, a certain level of physical and mental fitness is an absolute requirement for succes.

Its not about fitness, after a dive you shouldn't be stressing yourself for a start. Secondly, its often a matter of urgency to get out of the water and minimise the skippers workload, thirdly its a Much quicker than having folk climb ladders in rough seas! (most of the time)

There used to be a boat up in Oban, Scotland which had a triple lift at the stern- no buddies waiting in the water for time to climb the ladder, or even the lift to return, much less stress to the skipper and the divers.

Helium_diver · 5th May 2008, 16:30

Quote: (Originally Posted by diverreb)

Why Electronic CCR's? Why Dive Computers? Why any convenience item that makes diving easier?

It's not to say that divers can't climb a ladder, but the lift idea sure looks like it's a great way to get back on a boat with a heavy load of crap on your back and hooked all over your body. Climbing a ladder in rough seas is a pain in the butt. Why not have a better way of doing it?

I'm all for it....

Richie

Ritchie , Think Ted will go for it, as long as you bring your gear line up first

(sorry somebody had to say it.)

Helium_diver

Gary Graham · 5th May 2008, 16:38

Quote: (Originally Posted by Johnny Christensen)

It would be awfully tempting to say: If customers can't climb the ladder, should they really be diving?

Gear is not everything, a certain level of physical and mental fitness is an absolute requirement for succes.

Aside from being a bad move, climbing a ladder after 90 minute runtime with 2 Al80's and CCR is a real PITA.

Dive safe,

Gary

5th May 2008, 13:15	#2 (permalink)
SimonK Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cumbria UK Posts: 231	Re: Diver Lift/Elevator? I think the lifts are usually made locally, lots of UK dive boats have similar designs. The boat in the video is North Star: Boat Charter & Accommodation in Eyemouth, Scotland You could drop Iain and Jim a line I'm sure they will be happy to give you some details. Simon
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5th May 2008, 15:14	#4 (permalink)
Johnny Christensen Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 296	Re: Diver Lift/Elevator? Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave IR) Diver lifts are de-facto in the UK, It would be awfully tempting to say: If customers can't climb the ladder, should they really be diving? Gear is not everything, a certain level of physical and mental fitness is an absolute requirement for succes. __________________ www.johnnychristensen.com Wreckphotography from the cold north
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5th May 2008, 15:56	#5 (permalink)
nicothesailer New Member Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Denmark Posts: 31	Re: Diver Lift/Elevator? Quote: (Originally Posted by Johnny Christensen) It would be awfully tempting to say: If customers can't climb the ladder, should they really be diving? Gear is not everything, a certain level of physical and mental fitness is an absolute requirement for succes. Gimme a lift any day regardless of weather! __________________ "Push the button"
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5th May 2008, 16:06	#6 (permalink)
nigelh New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brighton, Sussex, UK Posts: 792	Re: Diver Lift/Elevator? Quote: (Originally Posted by Johnny Christensen) It would be awfully tempting to say: If customers can't climb the ladder, should they really be diving? But you wouldn't dare because we'd call you a macho poser. Quote: Gear is not everything, a certain level of physical and mental fitness is an absolute requirement for succes. I always thought that exertion after a long deco was considered a very bad move. Lifts are common in the UK and we like them. I can climb a ladder but why should I? I do this for fun. __________________ nigelh
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5th May 2008, 16:13	#7 (permalink)
diverreb DE/MD/NJ Wreck Diver Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Dover, DE Posts: 517	Re: Diver Lift/Elevator? Quote: (Originally Posted by Johnny Christensen) It would be awfully tempting to say: If customers can't climb the ladder, should they really be diving? Gear is not everything, a certain level of physical and mental fitness is an absolute requirement for succes. Why Electronic CCR's? Why Dive Computers? Why any convenience item that makes diving easier? It's not to say that divers can't climb a ladder, but the lift idea sure looks like it's a great way to get back on a boat with a heavy load of crap on your back and hooked all over your body. Climbing a ladder in rough seas is a pain in the butt. Why not have a better way of doing it? I'm all for it.... Richie
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5th May 2008, 16:16	#8 (permalink)
Ben Field CK+Shearwater Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 1,487	Re: Diver Lift/Elevator? Quote: (Originally Posted by Johnny Christensen) It would be awfully tempting to say: If customers can't climb the ladder, should they really be diving? Gear is not everything, a certain level of physical and mental fitness is an absolute requirement for succes. Its not about fitness, after a dive you shouldn't be stressing yourself for a start. Secondly, its often a matter of urgency to get out of the water and minimise the skippers workload, thirdly its a Much quicker than having folk climb ladders in rough seas! (most of the time) There used to be a boat up in Oban, Scotland which had a triple lift at the stern- no buddies waiting in the water for time to climb the ladder, or even the lift to return, much less stress to the skipper and the divers. __________________ www.hugsac.org.uk Beware Fridge Suck
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5th May 2008, 16:30	#9 (permalink)
Helium_diver Has anyone seen my Gerbil Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Baltimore MD USA Posts: 150	Re: Diver Lift/Elevator? Quote: (Originally Posted by diverreb) Why Electronic CCR's? Why Dive Computers? Why any convenience item that makes diving easier? It's not to say that divers can't climb a ladder, but the lift idea sure looks like it's a great way to get back on a boat with a heavy load of crap on your back and hooked all over your body. Climbing a ladder in rough seas is a pain in the butt. Why not have a better way of doing it? I'm all for it.... Richie Ritchie , Think Ted will go for it, as long as you bring your gear line up first (sorry somebody had to say it.) Helium_diver __________________ "If I look unconscious I probably am " Bill Hartman
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5th May 2008, 16:38	#10 (permalink)
Gary Graham New Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: St Helens, UK Posts: 90	Re: Diver Lift/Elevator? Quote: (Originally Posted by Johnny Christensen) It would be awfully tempting to say: If customers can't climb the ladder, should they really be diving? Gear is not everything, a certain level of physical and mental fitness is an absolute requirement for succes. Aside from being a bad move, climbing a ladder after 90 minute runtime with 2 Al80's and CCR is a real PITA. Dive safe, Gary __________________ CK#103
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