Diver Lift/Elevator?

diverreb · 5th May 2008, 18:53

Not being very familiar with these things, do they ever break down? If they do are the boats carrying a back up ladder?

Just curious...

Ted... Great project for all your free time.... I'd even volunteer Hartman's & Costanzo's time & expertise in helping make one for OC Diver.

Richie

mempilot · 5th May 2008, 19:27

Quote: (Originally Posted by diverreb)

Not being very familiar with these things, do they ever break down? If they do are the boats carrying a back up ladder?

Just curious...

Ted... Great project for all your free time.... I'd even volunteer Hartman's & Costanzo's time & expertise in helping make one for OC Diver.

Richie

Seems very similiar to the electric boat lift motors we used to use for lifting PWC platforms and winching the boat up on the trailer. The backup was a hand crank or wheel, which was still pretty easy to use for that kind of weight.

Mike Costanzo · 5th May 2008, 19:36

Time is money, you buying

Mike Costanzo · 5th May 2008, 19:45

Rich, part of the enjoyment of diving is watching your ass climb up that 6' ladder one step at a time.

**nigelh** · 6th May 2008, 08:16

Quote: (Originally Posted by diverreb)

Just curious...

A couple of pictures. Linked because they are full res.

Both hydraulic and you can see the spine ladder roped across the back in one. In a rough sea they make a lot of difference to the recovery. None of this lark of clipping off the stages to a line so they can be hauled up separately just grab the frame, brace yourself against the waves and when you look up he hits the switch. Waddle off and sit down with people grabbing for your hands.
When we had to do a diver recovery they set it higher, we sat him on, they winched him up grabbed his rig and just dragged him backwards into the boat. We weren't having to do AV as he was conscious but it was less than thirty seconds from when we let go to when he was in their hands.
http://www.nigelhewitt.co.uk/stuff/parbuckling.jpg
http://www.nigelhewitt.co.uk/stuff/2...e/P9060138.JPG

Johnny Christensen · 6th May 2008, 08:26

Quote: (Originally Posted by nigelh)

But you wouldn't dare because we'd call you a macho poser.
I always thought that exertion after a long deco was considered a very bad move.
Lifts are common in the UK and we like them.
I can climb a ladder but why should I?
I do this for fun.

The saftey argument is all good and valid reason.
But sometimes people gets a little lazy in maintaining reasonable personal fitness if they don't hit their limitations.
I would say there is quite a few diver out there, that could benefit from less burgers and beer.

Comfort and cozy is nice, but sometimes people need a wakeup call, before they start rethinking their situation.

matt crane · 6th May 2008, 10:15

Quote: (Originally Posted by Johnny Christensen)

The saftey argument is all good and valid reason.
But sometimes people gets a little lazy in maintaining reasonable personal fitness if they don't hit their limitations.
I would say there is quite a few diver out there, that could benefit from less burgers and beer.

Comfort and cozy is nice, but sometimes people need a wakeup call, before they start rethinking their situation.

Some valid points I agree but what about those that dive with disabilities should they have to give up the sport they love just because they may struggle with a ladder in rough seas.

Alby scubakitmarket · 8th May 2008, 09:37

hi all

hope i have linked this ok, this is a thread we did on lifts a while back lots of photo's and comments

http://www.rebreatherworld.com/gener...oat-lifts.html

rgds

alby

5th May 2008, 18:53	#11 (permalink)
diverreb DE/MD/NJ Wreck Diver Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Dover, DE Posts: 468	Re: Diver Lift/Elevator? Not being very familiar with these things, do they ever break down? If they do are the boats carrying a back up ladder? Just curious... Ted... Great project for all your free time.... I'd even volunteer Hartman's & Costanzo's time & expertise in helping make one for OC Diver. Richie
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5th May 2008, 19:27	#12 (permalink)
mempilot What is this..terrafirma? Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Posts: 1,089	Re: Diver Lift/Elevator? Quote: (Originally Posted by diverreb) Not being very familiar with these things, do they ever break down? If they do are the boats carrying a back up ladder? Just curious... Ted... Great project for all your free time.... I'd even volunteer Hartman's & Costanzo's time & expertise in helping make one for OC Diver. Richie Seems very similiar to the electric boat lift motors we used to use for lifting PWC platforms and winching the boat up on the trailer. The backup was a hand crank or wheel, which was still pretty easy to use for that kind of weight. __________________ MEM "Da Pilot" Black holes are where God divided by zero. "If at first you don't succeed, don't dive silent." "Would you mind not shooting at the thermo-nuclear weapons." ~ Vic Deakins "Donkey's kill more people annually than plane crashes."
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5th May 2008, 19:36	#13 (permalink)
Mike Costanzo Never E nuff Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Berlin,Md/Port Salerno,Fl - USA Posts: 115	Re: Diver Lift/Elevator? Time is money, you buying __________________ Mike Costanzo CK #318
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5th May 2008, 19:45	#14 (permalink)
Mike Costanzo Never E nuff Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Berlin,Md/Port Salerno,Fl - USA Posts: 115	Re: Diver Lift/Elevator? Rich, part of the enjoyment of diving is watching your ass climb up that 6' ladder one step at a time. __________________ Mike Costanzo CK #318
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6th May 2008, 08:16	#15 (permalink)
nigelh New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brighton, Sussex, UK Posts: 783	Re: Diver Lift/Elevator? Quote: (Originally Posted by diverreb) Just curious... A couple of pictures. Linked because they are full res. Both hydraulic and you can see the spine ladder roped across the back in one. In a rough sea they make a lot of difference to the recovery. None of this lark of clipping off the stages to a line so they can be hauled up separately just grab the frame, brace yourself against the waves and when you look up he hits the switch. Waddle off and sit down with people grabbing for your hands. When we had to do a diver recovery they set it higher, we sat him on, they winched him up grabbed his rig and just dragged him backwards into the boat. We weren't having to do AV as he was conscious but it was less than thirty seconds from when we let go to when he was in their hands. http://www.nigelhewitt.co.uk/stuff/parbuckling.jpg http://www.nigelhewitt.co.uk/stuff/2...e/P9060138.JPG __________________ nigelh
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6th May 2008, 08:26	#16 (permalink)
Johnny Christensen Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 296	Re: Diver Lift/Elevator? Quote: (Originally Posted by nigelh) But you wouldn't dare because we'd call you a macho poser. I always thought that exertion after a long deco was considered a very bad move. Lifts are common in the UK and we like them. I can climb a ladder but why should I? I do this for fun. The saftey argument is all good and valid reason. But sometimes people gets a little lazy in maintaining reasonable personal fitness if they don't hit their limitations. I would say there is quite a few diver out there, that could benefit from less burgers and beer. Comfort and cozy is nice, but sometimes people need a wakeup call, before they start rethinking their situation. __________________ www.johnnychristensen.com Wreckphotography from the cold north
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6th May 2008, 10:15	#17 (permalink)
matt crane New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cornwall Posts: 56	Re: Diver Lift/Elevator? Quote: (Originally Posted by Johnny Christensen) The saftey argument is all good and valid reason. But sometimes people gets a little lazy in maintaining reasonable personal fitness if they don't hit their limitations. I would say there is quite a few diver out there, that could benefit from less burgers and beer. Comfort and cozy is nice, but sometimes people need a wakeup call, before they start rethinking their situation. Some valid points I agree but what about those that dive with disabilities should they have to give up the sport they love just because they may struggle with a ladder in rough seas.
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8th May 2008, 09:37	#18 (permalink)
Alby scubakitmarket New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Liverpool UK Posts: 37	Re: Diver Lift/Elevator? hi all hope i have linked this ok, this is a thread we did on lifts a while back lots of photo's and comments http://www.rebreatherworld.com/gener...oat-lifts.html rgds alby
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