Salvage /recovery question

aquaxel · 20th April 2008, 09:35

salmon? if u do it properly - get a whale...

jlovold · 20th April 2008, 10:18

Well, as I have a slight idea what wreck you think of salvaging, I would say a single 100kg lifting bag attached to the bow should do the trick... But add a rope to the surface for a supporting boat so that the wreck doesn´t drift away, and they don´t have to attach a new line for towing...

thejaxpatts · 21st April 2008, 02:47

What a great learning opportunity. Take lots of notes and pictures. I think we'd all like to see the results. Make sure nothing is above as well as below the project. Even the best salvage job can bolt to the surface and lose buoyancy and go right back to the bottom. Sounds like you have a good hand on it though.

Numpty diver · 21st April 2008, 09:11

The fun lifting the BOAT that has no name will start this saturday.. were gonna be using strengh and guile mr crocky none of this dodgy bsac boomm bang bang stuff. .

although i did speak to mr monroe he said pe4 ,engine oil and hp o2 .

.. cordex i think would be better

.

Will start early all welcome ,familys inc, the wives organising bbq.. bring something and we all share.
I will bring compressor to top up the air for second dive .
You dont need quals to help out,
Johan wanna bring airbag ?

The price of ali is very high, dont let this influance the fact that the police must get what remains of the wreck !!.
IF at first we dont succeed... I will erase all attempts we tried !

Dave I believe you must have the record of ..The meg with the most salmon around it .. was it 65, ooo.. post pictures ?
Hope you visit again soon, i have far to much wine and good quality scotch !!

Debrief will be around the hot chocky machine.

Numpty

kiwi_diver · 17th June 2008, 05:08

Hey Numpty,

did you have a go at salvaging that boat or what? How'd you get on?

Numpty diver · 19th June 2008, 20:23

Hi Ray
I was asked to leave it alone and in the same place so other divers can have a prod n poke.
Is that rainbow warrior in your picture ?
Dean

kiwi_diver · 19th June 2008, 23:10

Quote: (Originally Posted by Numpty diver)

Hi Ray
I was asked to leave it alone and in the same place so other divers can have a prod n poke.
Is that rainbow warrior in your picture ?
Dean

Ok, fair enough I s'pose. That's the Leander class frigate HMNZS Canterbury (formerly HMS Bacchante) which was sunk in Deep Cove last November. It's an almost perfect wreck. 15m at the bridge, 38m at the props.
Cheers.

divelermentov · 19th June 2008, 23:58

Quote: (Originally Posted by kiwi_diver)

Ok, fair enough I s'pose. That's the Leander class frigate HMNZS Canterbury (formerly HMS Bacchante) which was sunk in Deep Cove last November. It's an almost perfect wreck. 15m at the bridge, 38m at the props.
Cheers.

LOL hey ray are you coming to teh lermi this year ? my brother in law pulled out so there is def a spot free for you

**fireman** · 21st June 2008, 03:39

Using the hot air from padi OW instructors might work...Of course it will be ballested by the Bull shit from the agency.

osiris · 22nd June 2008, 06:17

Quote: (Originally Posted by fireman)

Using the hot air from padi OW instructors might work...Of course it will be ballested by the Bull shit from the agency.

I was thinking actually, that he wasn't using enough HE to tell the truth. It's a pretty poor salvage that you can't fit at least say a 100Kg of PETN into. Might even save the need for the lift bags. I calculate that he will need approx 50KG carefully placed around the hull to cancel out the suction. Folwoing by a secondary blanket charge of approx another 50Kg to give the hull some upward momenetum.

Of course, he must fill the whole exercise so his collegues at Rebreather World can review critique and if necessary, make some suggestions for next time...

20th April 2008, 09:35	#21 (permalink)
aquaxel aquanaut Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: cyprus Posts: 529	Re: Salvage /recovery question salmon? if u do it properly - get a whale... __________________ rgds aquaxel www.aquatec-innerspace.com
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20th April 2008, 10:18	#22 (permalink)
jlovold New Member Current Rebreather/s: Pelagian Other Rebreather/s: Pelagian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bergen, Norway Posts: 24	Re: Salvage /recovery question Well, as I have a slight idea what wreck you think of salvaging, I would say a single 100kg lifting bag attached to the bow should do the trick... But add a rope to the surface for a supporting boat so that the wreck doesn´t drift away, and they don´t have to attach a new line for towing...
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21st April 2008, 02:47	#23 (permalink)
thejaxpatts New Member Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lynn Haven, Fl. USA Posts: 6	Re: Salvage /recovery question What a great learning opportunity. Take lots of notes and pictures. I think we'd all like to see the results. Make sure nothing is above as well as below the project. Even the best salvage job can bolt to the surface and lose buoyancy and go right back to the bottom. Sounds like you have a good hand on it though.
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21st April 2008, 09:11	#24 (permalink)
Numpty diver Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Ray Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Ray Home Build Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Norway, Bergen Posts: 198	Re: Salvage /recovery question The fun lifting the BOAT that has no name will start this saturday.. were gonna be using strengh and guile mr crocky none of this dodgy bsac boomm bang bang stuff. . although i did speak to mr monroe he said pe4 ,engine oil and hp o2 ... cordex i think would be better . Will start early all welcome ,familys inc, the wives organising bbq.. bring something and we all share. I will bring compressor to top up the air for second dive . You dont need quals to help out, Johan wanna bring airbag ? The price of ali is very high, dont let this influance the fact that the police must get what remains of the wreck !!. IF at first we dont succeed... I will erase all attempts we tried ! Dave I believe you must have the record of ..The meg with the most salmon around it .. was it 65, ooo.. post pictures ? Hope you visit again soon, i have far to much wine and good quality scotch !! Debrief will be around the hot chocky machine. Numpty
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17th June 2008, 05:08	#25 (permalink)
kiwi_diver Alias - Ray Mansell Current Rebreather/s: Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Other SCR Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 157	Re: Salvage /recovery question Hey Numpty, did you have a go at salvaging that boat or what? How'd you get on? __________________ Ray. == Latitude 36 South, where the deeper you dive, the warmer it gets! ==
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19th June 2008, 20:23	#26 (permalink)
Numpty diver Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Ray Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Ray Home Build Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Norway, Bergen Posts: 198	Re: Salvage /recovery question Hi Ray I was asked to leave it alone and in the same place so other divers can have a prod n poke. Is that rainbow warrior in your picture ? Dean
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19th June 2008, 23:10	#27 (permalink)
kiwi_diver Alias - Ray Mansell Current Rebreather/s: Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Other SCR Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 157	Re: Salvage /recovery question Quote: (Originally Posted by Numpty diver) Hi Ray I was asked to leave it alone and in the same place so other divers can have a prod n poke. Is that rainbow warrior in your picture ? Dean Ok, fair enough I s'pose. That's the Leander class frigate HMNZS Canterbury (formerly HMS Bacchante) which was sunk in Deep Cove last November. It's an almost perfect wreck. 15m at the bridge, 38m at the props. Cheers. __________________ Ray. == Latitude 36 South, where the deeper you dive, the warmer it gets! ==
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19th June 2008, 23:58	#28 (permalink)
divelermentov Nutty dentist - uwdriller Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: May 2006 Location: Auckland Posts: 600	Re: Salvage /recovery question Quote: (Originally Posted by kiwi_diver) Ok, fair enough I s'pose. That's the Leander class frigate HMNZS Canterbury (formerly HMS Bacchante) which was sunk in Deep Cove last November. It's an almost perfect wreck. 15m at the bridge, 38m at the props. Cheers. LOL hey ray are you coming to teh lermi this year ? my brother in law pulled out so there is def a spot free for you __________________ May The Sorb Be With You
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21st June 2008, 03:39	#29 (permalink)
fireman rEvo combat swimmer Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: chicago Posts: 444	Re: Salvage /recovery question Using the hot air from padi OW instructors might work...Of course it will be ballested by the Bull shit from the agency. __________________ Heres to you Capt. Bill Never Forget, and stay safe everyone.
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22nd June 2008, 06:17	#30 (permalink)
osiris Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Auckland Posts: 231	Re: Salvage /recovery question Quote: (Originally Posted by fireman) Using the hot air from padi OW instructors might work...Of course it will be ballested by the Bull shit from the agency. I was thinking actually, that he wasn't using enough HE to tell the truth. It's a pretty poor salvage that you can't fit at least say a 100Kg of PETN into. Might even save the need for the lift bags. I calculate that he will need approx 50KG carefully placed around the hull to cancel out the suction. Folwoing by a secondary blanket charge of approx another 50Kg to give the hull some upward momenetum. Of course, he must fill the whole exercise so his collegues at Rebreather World can review critique and if necessary, make some suggestions for next time...
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