Submatix CCR 100 SMS

nor to me!

.., unless I added an automatic system that would add something in case of PPO2 less then 0.2 or higher then 1.6

paul

Hi Paul, then ask the gays why does the inspiration the CE ? The ADV is long time not available and later on just a option on a Inspiration. If I have a ppO2 setpoint at 1.3 and dive some meters deeper without flushing (manual) Diluent I can get very quick over 1.6.

Holger

hello holger

because in the CE 14143 a PPO2 of max 2.0 is allowed during descent for max 1 minute

chapter 5.7.1

regards
paul

ah, but is also not "automatic" and if the diver does not regonize it ?

yes I know then the
buzzer will alarme the diver, but on the rEvo with the rEvodream you have also a HUD an posibly also an buzzer so the Diver can be warned in low and hight pPO2 and this is "automaticaly"

Holger

The stupid CE certification obviously has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the unit certified. AP, Dräger, OMG have had it from the beginning, yet there have been plenty of accidents on them, including fatalities.

All that the damn stamp means is that the unit can be legally sold in Europe.
So good for anyone getting the darn thing and their units into shops. The one good thing, testing of scrubber and WOB performance (and setpoint accuracy for eCCRs), nets results that don't have to be published (unless they fall below the standard) and are thus worthless to me.

Hope other manufacturers follow that lead.

AND... If you're a member of BSAC, then you can use it on "branch dives" - BSAC will only "support" CE approved rebreathers...

nor to me!

when I asked the company that does the CE-testing for the britisch units to do the testing for the rEvo, it was.. definitaly impossible, although they really wanted to do it :-) (I got a rought quote for what it was going to cost at the end). They told me simply the unit could not comply, unless I added an automatic system that would add something in case of PPO2 less then 0.2 or higher then 1.6


to leptonyx: it has nothing to do with "bitch-slapping war": no-one has argued abouth the quality of units!

if some-one can direct me to a company that can CE the rEvo like it is (mCCR), please do!!

paul

(Originally Posted by caveseeker7)

The stupid CE certification obviously has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the unit certified. AP, Dräger, OMG have had it from the beginning, yet there have been plenty of accidents on them, including fatalities.

All that the damn stamp means is that the unit can be legally sold in Europe.

Look, the reason why I react with a little smirk is as follows:

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And that's it.

So the discussion is really about two separate things:

1.) Does this unit (and this specification) have a CE certification?

2.) What does that mean, and is this of any significance for me as a user/dealer?

So, from all I know (and what you can also read in this thread) the first point has been answered (yes, there are CE certification documents) so let's move on to the second point:

• is this satisfactory?

I guess anybody interested in this unit will have to answer this for themselves.

well the 14143 states that you have to do the test until you reach steady state, and then the ppo2 must be within....
so the rEvo will not reach steady state automatically anyway, and the max 1 minute still applies...

if someone points me to the certified/notified body who can CE the rEvo, feel fre...

paul