Submatix CCR+rEvodream help

Mikel-Deko · 26th March 2007, 17:51

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dinspiration)

Hi

I'm using a Submatix SMS (mCCR) with the rEvodream. For me the CCR version of the rEvodream is working fine.

Submatix has a new sensorholder which is mounted obove the inhale lung direct on the case. The new holder allows you use 2 O2 cells. With a single cathode you will have 2 signals and with double cathode cells you can get 4 signals. I have installed 2 standard O2 Cells.

From the sensorholder a small cable goes to a manifold. The manifold is mounted next to the scrubber. From the manifold a cable with a 7 pin fisher connector is going to my VR3 (one O2 Cell). On the bottom of the manifold is a fisher socket for the rEvodream (one O2 Cell). I mounted a fisher connector on the rEvodream to remove it from the Submatix if needed. The rEvodream itself is mounted on the diluent gauge. The cable for the HUD is routed between the jacket and the case. The rEvodream is configured to use only one O2 cell. But the configuration is flexible. I can share O2 cells, if needed (2 x rEvodream plus 1 shared VR3) or I can use double cathode cells...

If you are interested, I can take some pictures of the configuration.

DINspiration

P.S. Using the rEvodream with the Submatix SMS is just great! I really love the rEvodream.....

Hi Dinspiration
Thanks, it is exactly what we want.
Please, we are already waiting for the pictures.
Best
Mikel
P.S. I'm using a rEvodream in my classic inspiration for almost one year now... absolutly in love with it.

Mikel-Deko · 26th March 2007, 17:54

Quote: (Originally Posted by Marc T)

It was a joke!
PM me Ill give you the contact of a French guy who did that for his rEVO ( cells in the counterlung ) perhaps you know him ( rEVO from Toulouse )
dont know if he is here on the list

Sorry, i missundestood you.

PM send.

Dinspiration · 26th March 2007, 18:20

Hi

Here are some pictures of the configuration:

CIMG1083.JPG

This is the new sensorholder (next to the ADV)

CIMG1085.JPG

This is the manifold (one cable is coming from the sensorholder). One cable is going out for the VR3. On the Bottom is the connection for the rEvodream.

CIMG1086.JPG

This is a small hole for the VR3 cable

CIMG1087.JPG

The rEvodream on my diluent gauge

CIMG1088.JPG

The HUD attached on the mouthpiece. The standard holder of the rEvodream fits perfect!

CIMG1091.JPG

Assembled with the lungs. No P-port, No Submatix S-Con ports.

DINspiration

Mikel-Deko · 27th March 2007, 08:07

Hi Dinspiration.
Thanks you very much for the pictures.
We just wanted two sensors because we have already the VR3 conected to another one.
Just a question. Can the sensor house pass throught the breathing hose hole in the Rebreather case?
If the answer is yes, we wouldn't need any fissher connector... right?
Thanks
Mikel

Dinspiration · 27th March 2007, 08:45

Hi Mikel,

Sorry, but I don't understand the question. You can drill a hole (like I did for the VR3 cable) on the inhale side. This will allow you to mount the rEvodream cable directly on the manifold, without using a fisher connector.....

DINspiration

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mikel-Deko)

Hi Dinspiration.
Thanks you very much for the pictures.
We just wanted two sensors because we have already the VR3 conected to another one.
Just a question. Can the sensor house pass throught the breathing hose hole in the Rebreather case?
If the answer is yes, we wouldn't need any fissher connector... right?
Thanks
Mikel

Mikel-Deko · 27th March 2007, 09:09

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dinspiration)

Hi Mikel,

Sorry, but I don't understand the question. You can drill a hole (like I did for the VR3 cable) on the inhale side. This will allow you to mount the rEvodream cable directly on the manifold, without using a fisher connector.....

DINspiration

Hi DINspiration.

I will trie to expelain it better.

Said that i connect directly the rEvodream to the sensor house without a fissher connector. Now i have to connect the sensor house to the loop. To do that i have to have the sensor house inside the case and the rEvodream outside. Said that i don't want to make any hole, so i can use the breathing hose hole in the case to put it inside.
How big is the breathing hose hole in the case?
How big is the sensor house?
Can the sensor house go truoght the hole in the case?
Sorry, i don't know how explain it better.
Best
Mikel

Dinspiration · 27th March 2007, 09:48

Hi Mikel

I don't think you can connect the rEvodream directly to the sensor holder. The cable gland is too small and I think a PG7 will not fit. Using the standard holder with the manifold will be the right way. On the bottom of the manifold you can use a PG7 for the rEvodream.

Here is a complete picture of the holder.

holder-complete.jpg

The holder replaces the standard connector on you inhale lung and it is mounted in the original hole. On you inhale lung you will need to second connector as the one for the ADV.

submatix-complete.jpg

This picture shows the original submatix version of the configuration. The sensor holder, the manifold with VR3 cable, HUD and two Oxyscans.

Kind regards

DINspiration

Mikel-Deko · 27th March 2007, 10:37

Hi DINspiration.
Thanks again for your big hepl.

Do you think that will be posible to fit a female fisher connector in the cable that comes from the sensor house instead using the manifoult?
We don't need the manifoult.

Sensor house>20cms cable>fisher female conector> fisher male conector>120cms cable from the rEvodream.
What do you think?

Thanks again
Mikel

Dinspiration · 27th March 2007, 12:01

Hi Mikel,

There is no problem to mount a female connector on the cable from the sensor holder. You just will need the correct fisher parts.....

Kind regards

DINspiration

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mikel-Deko)

Hi DINspiration.
Thanks again for your big hepl.

Do you think that will be posible to fit a female fisher connector in the cable that comes from the sensor house instead using the manifoult?
We don't need the manifoult.

Sensor house>20cms cable>fisher female conector> fisher male conector>120cms cable from the rEvodream.
What do you think?

Thanks again
Mikel

Mikel-Deko · 27th March 2007, 13:30

Hi DINspiration
I think that this is the way

Do you have the part number of the sensor house from Submatix?

I can't find it in is website.

Thanks
Mikel

26th March 2007, 17:51	#11 (permalink)
Mikel-Deko Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Basque Country -Sp- Posts: 414	Re: Submatix CCR+rEvodream help Quote: (Originally Posted by Dinspiration) Hi I'm using a Submatix SMS (mCCR) with the rEvodream. For me the CCR version of the rEvodream is working fine. Submatix has a new sensorholder which is mounted obove the inhale lung direct on the case. The new holder allows you use 2 O2 cells. With a single cathode you will have 2 signals and with double cathode cells you can get 4 signals. I have installed 2 standard O2 Cells. From the sensorholder a small cable goes to a manifold. The manifold is mounted next to the scrubber. From the manifold a cable with a 7 pin fisher connector is going to my VR3 (one O2 Cell). On the bottom of the manifold is a fisher socket for the rEvodream (one O2 Cell). I mounted a fisher connector on the rEvodream to remove it from the Submatix if needed. The rEvodream itself is mounted on the diluent gauge. The cable for the HUD is routed between the jacket and the case. The rEvodream is configured to use only one O2 cell. But the configuration is flexible. I can share O2 cells, if needed (2 x rEvodream plus 1 shared VR3) or I can use double cathode cells... If you are interested, I can take some pictures of the configuration. DINspiration P.S. Using the rEvodream with the Submatix SMS is just great! I really love the rEvodream..... Hi Dinspiration Thanks, it is exactly what we want. Please, we are already waiting for the pictures. Best Mikel P.S. I'm using a rEvodream in my classic inspiration for almost one year now... absolutly in love with it. __________________ Mikel-Deko Basque Country www.olatu.net "DIR is the nanny state for divers who cannot think on their own" Ron Micjan
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26th March 2007, 17:54	#12 (permalink)
Mikel-Deko Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Basque Country -Sp- Posts: 414	Re: Submatix CCR+rEvodream help Quote: (Originally Posted by Marc T) It was a joke! PM me Ill give you the contact of a French guy who did that for his rEVO ( cells in the counterlung ) perhaps you know him ( rEVO from Toulouse ) dont know if he is here on the list Sorry, i missundestood you. PM send. __________________ Mikel-Deko Basque Country www.olatu.net "DIR is the nanny state for divers who cannot think on their own" Ron Micjan Last edited by Mikel-Deko : 26th March 2007 at 17:58.
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27th March 2007, 08:07	#14 (permalink)
Mikel-Deko Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Basque Country -Sp- Posts: 414	Re: Submatix CCR+rEvodream help Hi Dinspiration. Thanks you very much for the pictures. We just wanted two sensors because we have already the VR3 conected to another one. Just a question. Can the sensor house pass throught the breathing hose hole in the Rebreather case? If the answer is yes, we wouldn't need any fissher connector... right? Thanks Mikel __________________ Mikel-Deko Basque Country www.olatu.net "DIR is the nanny state for divers who cannot think on their own" Ron Micjan
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27th March 2007, 08:45	#15 (permalink)
Dinspiration Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other CCR Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Switzerland Posts: 197	Re: Submatix CCR+rEvodream help Hi Mikel, Sorry, but I don't understand the question. You can drill a hole (like I did for the VR3 cable) on the inhale side. This will allow you to mount the rEvodream cable directly on the manifold, without using a fisher connector..... DINspiration Quote: (Originally Posted by Mikel-Deko) Hi Dinspiration. Thanks you very much for the pictures. We just wanted two sensors because we have already the VR3 conected to another one. Just a question. Can the sensor house pass throught the breathing hose hole in the Rebreather case? If the answer is yes, we wouldn't need any fissher connector... right? Thanks Mikel
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27th March 2007, 09:09	#16 (permalink)
Mikel-Deko Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Basque Country -Sp- Posts: 414	Re: Submatix CCR+rEvodream help Quote: (Originally Posted by Dinspiration) Hi Mikel, Sorry, but I don't understand the question. You can drill a hole (like I did for the VR3 cable) on the inhale side. This will allow you to mount the rEvodream cable directly on the manifold, without using a fisher connector..... DINspiration Hi DINspiration. I will trie to expelain it better. Said that i connect directly the rEvodream to the sensor house without a fissher connector. Now i have to connect the sensor house to the loop. To do that i have to have the sensor house inside the case and the rEvodream outside. Said that i don't want to make any hole, so i can use the breathing hose hole in the case to put it inside. How big is the breathing hose hole in the case? How big is the sensor house? Can the sensor house go truoght the hole in the case? Sorry, i don't know how explain it better. Best Mikel __________________ Mikel-Deko Basque Country www.olatu.net "DIR is the nanny state for divers who cannot think on their own" Ron Micjan
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27th March 2007, 09:48	#17 (permalink)
Dinspiration Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other CCR Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Switzerland Posts: 197	Re: Submatix CCR+rEvodream help Hi Mikel I don't think you can connect the rEvodream directly to the sensor holder. The cable gland is too small and I think a PG7 will not fit. Using the standard holder with the manifold will be the right way. On the bottom of the manifold you can use a PG7 for the rEvodream. Here is a complete picture of the holder. holder-complete.jpg The holder replaces the standard connector on you inhale lung and it is mounted in the original hole. On you inhale lung you will need to second connector as the one for the ADV. submatix-complete.jpg This picture shows the original submatix version of the configuration. The sensor holder, the manifold with VR3 cable, HUD and two Oxyscans. Kind regards DINspiration
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27th March 2007, 10:37	#18 (permalink)
Mikel-Deko Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Basque Country -Sp- Posts: 414	Re: Submatix CCR+rEvodream help Hi DINspiration. Thanks again for your big hepl. Do you think that will be posible to fit a female fisher connector in the cable that comes from the sensor house instead using the manifoult? We don't need the manifoult. Sensor house>20cms cable>fisher female conector> fisher male conector>120cms cable from the rEvodream. What do you think? Thanks again Mikel __________________ Mikel-Deko Basque Country www.olatu.net "DIR is the nanny state for divers who cannot think on their own" Ron Micjan
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27th March 2007, 12:01	#19 (permalink)
Dinspiration Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other CCR Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Switzerland Posts: 197	Re: Submatix CCR+rEvodream help Hi Mikel, There is no problem to mount a female connector on the cable from the sensor holder. You just will need the correct fisher parts..... Kind regards DINspiration Quote: (Originally Posted by Mikel-Deko) Hi DINspiration. Thanks again for your big hepl. Do you think that will be posible to fit a female fisher connector in the cable that comes from the sensor house instead using the manifoult? We don't need the manifoult. Sensor house>20cms cable>fisher female conector> fisher male conector>120cms cable from the rEvodream. What do you think? Thanks again Mikel
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27th March 2007, 13:30	#20 (permalink)
Mikel-Deko Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Basque Country -Sp- Posts: 414	Re: Submatix CCR+rEvodream help Hi DINspiration I think that this is the way Do you have the part number of the sensor house from Submatix? I can't find it in is website. Thanks Mikel __________________ Mikel-Deko Basque Country www.olatu.net "DIR is the nanny state for divers who cannot think on their own" Ron Micjan
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