DEMA Gear blowout!

lof · 7th November 2006, 03:12

Not everyone can make it to DEMA, so we decided to have a gear sale during that time to give you some of the benefits.
see:
Golem Gear Sale

We have wings for under $200 and other great deals. All these deals are good for the duration of the DEMA show (till Sat 11/11). Orders will be shipped the following week.
Come back to the page through the week as more items will be added.

***schford*** · 7th November 2006, 08:20

The guys are sponsoring the party - so get to run this advert.....

Ivon · 7th November 2006, 11:57

Does anyone know if the Oxycheq wings are any better at getting you out of the water than a standard AP?

The wing just doesn'yt give enough lift on the surface in swells.
I have tried several other wings but they crush the hoses.

Thanks

**PhilSiswick** · 7th November 2006, 12:11

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ivon)

Does anyone know if the Oxycheq wings are any better at getting you out of the water than a standard AP?

The wing just doesn'yt give enough lift on the surface in swells.
I have tried several other wings but they crush the hoses.

Thanks

Have you got the 16 or 22.5 kilo AP wing? I've got the 22.5 kilo (so call it 50 lb) AP wing and it seemed to be OK, although it held me lower than my old DR Superwings did. The Oxycheq ones from Golem Gear only go up to 55 lb. Is that really going to make that much difference against the 22.5 kilo AP wing?

Cheers,

Ivon · 7th November 2006, 12:14

[quote=PhilSiswick;76725]

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ivon)

Does anyone know if the Oxycheq wings are any better at getting you out of the water than a standard AP?

The wing just doesn'yt give enough lift on the surface in swells.
I have tried several other wings but they crush the hoses.

Thanks[/quote

Have you got the 16 or 22.5 kilo AP wing. I've got the 22.5 kilo (so call it 50 lb) AP wing and it seemed to be OK, although it held me lower than my old DR Superwings did. The Oxycheq ones from Golem Gear only go up to 55 lb. Is that really going to make that much difference against the 22.5 kilo AP wing?

Cheers,

It's not the lift that is the difference, it's the way it's distributed, if the wing is wider at the bottom it will lift you further out of the water, the wings look cut in this way.

The 22kg if fine from a hard boat but no good when RIB diving.

**PhilSiswick** · 7th November 2006, 12:18

[quote=Ivon;76727]

Quote: (Originally Posted by PhilSiswick)

It's not the lift that is the difference, it's the way it's distributed, if the wing is wider at the bottom it will lift you further out of the water, the wings look cut in this way.

The 22kg if fine from a hard boat but no good when RIB diving.

I didn't know that - makes a lot of sense. I might try some other wings then - the position in the water could do with some improvement.

Cheers,

lof · 7th November 2006, 13:31

You can always try 70# wing if you think you need more lift:
Oxycheq Wing for Double Cylinders

Ben Field · 7th November 2006, 13:35

A couple of people are selling "rebreather wings" that a narrow at the top (so it doesn't impeed the hoses) and wide at the bottom (supposedly to give horizontal trim with bottom heavy inverted cylinders)

I don't think you need to get too much larger, wings around the 60lb/28kg mark tend to be pretty large and flappy (unless you have "bungied wings of death"

) or something to stop that.

Kind of depends if your diving wet or dry, with or without stage(s) IMO

**PhilSiswick** · 7th November 2006, 13:39

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field)

A couple of people are selling "rebreather wings" that a narrow at the top (so it doesn't impeed the hoses) and wide at the bottom (supposedly to give horizontal trim with bottom heavy inverted cylinders)

I don't think you need to get too much larger, wings around the 60lb/28kg mark tend to be pretty large and flappy (unless you have "bungied wings of death"

) or something to stop that.

Kind of depends if your diving wet or dry, with or without stage(s) IMO

Bungied wings of death on a YBOD - heaven forbid ;-) Combined with my tangled harness of doom, that would just about do it.......

I'm going to see how I get on with the AP wing first. The next step will be to try a wing with equivalent lift, but a different shape.

Cheers,

Ivon · 7th November 2006, 14:46

Golem Gear, Inc. - Oxycheq 55 lbs Vertex wing for Doubles

The Vertex wing looks like it could work well,nice and wide at the bottom, slim at the top, can you get it in the Signature Series?

7th November 2006, 03:12	#1 (permalink)
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7th November 2006, 11:57	#3 (permalink)
Ivon Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hull, East Yorkshire, England Posts: 318	Re: DEMA Gear blowout! Does anyone know if the Oxycheq wings are any better at getting you out of the water than a standard AP? The wing just doesn'yt give enough lift on the surface in swells. I have tried several other wings but they crush the hoses. Thanks
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7th November 2006, 12:11	#4 (permalink)
PhilSiswick Phil Siswick, Tango Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 996	Re: DEMA Gear blowout! Quote: (Originally Posted by Ivon) Does anyone know if the Oxycheq wings are any better at getting you out of the water than a standard AP? The wing just doesn'yt give enough lift on the surface in swells. I have tried several other wings but they crush the hoses. Thanks Have you got the 16 or 22.5 kilo AP wing? I've got the 22.5 kilo (so call it 50 lb) AP wing and it seemed to be OK, although it held me lower than my old DR Superwings did. The Oxycheq ones from Golem Gear only go up to 55 lb. Is that really going to make that much difference against the 22.5 kilo AP wing? Cheers, __________________ Phil (WSKD 0001) I have always felt that the dive I am on is not nearly important as the dives I plan to be on the rest of my life. Tom Rose, 2007 The person who gets the farthest is generally the one who is willing to do and dare. The sure thing boat never gets far from shore. Charles A. Lindbergh www.hugsac.org.uk Last edited by PhilSiswick : 7th November 2006 at 12:17.
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7th November 2006, 12:14	#5 (permalink)
Ivon Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hull, East Yorkshire, England Posts: 318	Re: DEMA Gear blowout! [quote=PhilSiswick;76725] Quote: (Originally Posted by Ivon) Does anyone know if the Oxycheq wings are any better at getting you out of the water than a standard AP? The wing just doesn'yt give enough lift on the surface in swells. I have tried several other wings but they crush the hoses. Thanks[/quote Have you got the 16 or 22.5 kilo AP wing. I've got the 22.5 kilo (so call it 50 lb) AP wing and it seemed to be OK, although it held me lower than my old DR Superwings did. The Oxycheq ones from Golem Gear only go up to 55 lb. Is that really going to make that much difference against the 22.5 kilo AP wing? Cheers, It's not the lift that is the difference, it's the way it's distributed, if the wing is wider at the bottom it will lift you further out of the water, the wings look cut in this way. The 22kg if fine from a hard boat but no good when RIB diving.
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7th November 2006, 12:18	#6 (permalink)
PhilSiswick Phil Siswick, Tango Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 996	Re: DEMA Gear blowout! [quote=Ivon;76727] Quote: (Originally Posted by PhilSiswick) It's not the lift that is the difference, it's the way it's distributed, if the wing is wider at the bottom it will lift you further out of the water, the wings look cut in this way. The 22kg if fine from a hard boat but no good when RIB diving. I didn't know that - makes a lot of sense. I might try some other wings then - the position in the water could do with some improvement. Cheers, __________________ Phil (WSKD 0001) I have always felt that the dive I am on is not nearly important as the dives I plan to be on the rest of my life. Tom Rose, 2007 The person who gets the farthest is generally the one who is willing to do and dare. The sure thing boat never gets far from shore. Charles A. Lindbergh www.hugsac.org.uk
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7th November 2006, 13:31	#7 (permalink)
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7th November 2006, 13:35	#8 (permalink)
Ben Field CK+Shearwater Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 1,621	Re: DEMA Gear blowout! A couple of people are selling "rebreather wings" that a narrow at the top (so it doesn't impeed the hoses) and wide at the bottom (supposedly to give horizontal trim with bottom heavy inverted cylinders) I don't think you need to get too much larger, wings around the 60lb/28kg mark tend to be pretty large and flappy (unless you have "bungied wings of death" ) or something to stop that. Kind of depends if your diving wet or dry, with or without stage(s) IMO __________________ Know your PPO2, Pre-breath, Use checklists, Validate cells at 6mtrs, Use pure O2 at or near surface, Use a BOV, Don't dive Solo, Change Slime and Cells as recommended by Manufacturer and RTFM! Beware Fridge Suck! www.hugsac.org.uk
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7th November 2006, 13:39	#9 (permalink)
PhilSiswick Phil Siswick, Tango Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 996	Re: DEMA Gear blowout! Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field) A couple of people are selling "rebreather wings" that a narrow at the top (so it doesn't impeed the hoses) and wide at the bottom (supposedly to give horizontal trim with bottom heavy inverted cylinders) I don't think you need to get too much larger, wings around the 60lb/28kg mark tend to be pretty large and flappy (unless you have "bungied wings of death" ) or something to stop that. Kind of depends if your diving wet or dry, with or without stage(s) IMO Bungied wings of death on a YBOD - heaven forbid ;-) Combined with my tangled harness of doom, that would just about do it....... I'm going to see how I get on with the AP wing first. The next step will be to try a wing with equivalent lift, but a different shape. Cheers, __________________ Phil (WSKD 0001) I have always felt that the dive I am on is not nearly important as the dives I plan to be on the rest of my life. Tom Rose, 2007 The person who gets the farthest is generally the one who is willing to do and dare. The sure thing boat never gets far from shore. Charles A. Lindbergh www.hugsac.org.uk
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7th November 2006, 14:46	#10 (permalink)
Ivon Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hull, East Yorkshire, England Posts: 318	Re: DEMA Gear blowout! Golem Gear, Inc. - Oxycheq 55 lbs Vertex wing for Doubles The Vertex wing looks like it could work well,nice and wide at the bottom, slim at the top, can you get it in the Signature Series?
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