Valve Flusher, Maintenance Aid

***Beanie*** · 25th September 2007, 14:58

Quote: (Originally Posted by cool_hardware52)

I certainly will have at least one on display. Keep in mind that everything we bring into DEMA is charged a freight rate of $0.52 per pound, just to move it from the parking lot to your booth!

That does not include the freight from California to Florida.

That fact makes me reluctant to bring anything I don't have to.

Tobin

stick one in your pocket

cramerdn · 25th September 2007, 15:07

Quote: (Originally Posted by cool_hardware52)

I certainly will have at least one on display. Keep in mind that everything we bring into DEMA is charged a freight rate of $0.52 per pound, just to move it from the parking lot to your booth!

That does not include the freight from California to Florida.

That fact makes me reluctant to bring anything I don't have to.

Tobin

So just have the sales part of the operation in the parking lot

AD_ward9 · 27th September 2007, 15:49

That is a very good idea! Green posted.

One of my most memorable gear failures was a wing with 110lb lift. I miss out the company, because any wing can do this. We were trimix diving from a RIB down in Cornwall, from a sandy beach - something I do not normally do (diving at the time was from rock, hardboats etc). Anyhow, sand got everywhere.

After cooking in a dry suit, full trimix kit, on a RIB, finally got in the water. Descent helped relax, more from relief from not being on the RIB.

Started swimming around the wreck. After a few minutes, there was a pop, and suddenly I started going upwards, so pulled out my dry suit valve, but was still going upwards so I swam over to the wreck and hung on.

Unfortunately when hanging onto the wreck, with a 110lb lift wing full up with gas, you cannot bend into a ball to get the dump valve very high, so the dump valve does not work (air does not come out of the lowest parts of a wing very well).

I was rehearsing in my mind the sequence of letting go of the wreck, rocketing up while going for my knife and cutting through the wing, working out how many feet per second this would be, when my buddy noticed (Mark Reeves) and swam over.

He tried dumping the wing but could not. He then nearly had a heart attack when he realised what the problem was and could not get the connector off the inflator. I was muttering to get the <snip> knife out, when he got his knife and stabbed the wing. We debated about continuing the dive as there was a redudant wing, but decided that we had better call it as you never what can happen next when this sort of thing happens.

Sand. It is amazing stuff when inside inflators.

I have never heard of anyone else with a wing fail. A certain dive operation in that part of the world could hardly believe it. Saw the cut wing, and the language from my buddy, and thought we had a curse over us.

Everything fails, sometime. Washing things out properly no doubt increases the space between those "sometimes".

Alex

Quote: (Originally Posted by cool_hardware52)

I shore dive in So Cal. That means sand in places it was never intended to be.

I have always made a practice of flushing, or trying to flush fresh water through my power inflator "add" valve and through my drysuit inflate valve.

Usually I just hold the end of the garden hose over the nipple and hope some of the flow actually goes through the valve. This sort of works.

Then I got the idea of taking an old LP hose and via the magic of thread cutting lathes, connect a female garden hose adapter on the "regulator" end of the hose.

Bingo! Very handy. Just click on the nipple of either the power inflator or Drysuit inflator and push nice, clean, salt free water through these potentially finicky valves.

Others might want these I thought, but the cost of a LP hose assembly + special 3/8 x 24 to 1/2 npt adapter + garden hose adapter would make it about $40. Bummer.

What was needed was a device that would accept a male garden hose on one end and fit onto to an inflator QD nipple on the other.

Here it is.

http://www.rebreatherworld.com/photopost/data/500/medium/P1010183.jpg

http://www.rebreatherworld.com/photo...m/P1010184.jpg

http://www.rebreatherworld.com/photo...m/P1010181.jpg

This part is molded out of a fairly stiff durometer elastomer. It has threads in the big hex end to screw onto a garden hose.

On the other end just pushes onto the nipple. There is a "oring" like feature in this end of the hose that engages the groove in the inflator nipple. This "snap fit" makes the Valve Flusher self retaining up to about 100 psi water pressure.

The small ball shut off valve makes the flusher easy to use, and provides a secure attachment to the garden hose. Many garden hose ends are imperfect (beat up) and the shut off valve has a replaceable washer.

I don't yet have final pricing, but I hope to offer the shutoff valve and Valve flusher for about $12.

Tobin

devilgas · 8th October 2007, 17:45

Quote: (Originally Posted by cool_hardware52)

Come and get 'um

https://www.deepseasupply.com/index.php?product=1301

Should be shipping Wednesday.

Tobin

These will work sweeeeet on the Diverite O2ptima manual injector fittings for the lungs as well.

Thanks............

cool_hardware52 · 8th October 2007, 18:16

Quote: (Originally Posted by devilgas)

These will work sweeeeet on the Diverite O2ptima manual injector fittings for the lungs as well.

Thanks............

You are most welcome.

Tobin

mriopel · 4th November 2007, 12:39

Good ideal

Mike

***diverklondike*** · 4th November 2007, 15:36

Tobin,

Thanks for bringing some to DEMA!

That and your power inflator tool will be great additions to my dive tool kit.

Mark

Celia_E · 4th November 2007, 17:45

The valve flusher fits my meg manual add fittings very well, no more trying to do this "by hand" so to speak, makes it fast and easy.

It was great meeting you in person.

Thanks!!

Dive safe,

Celia

25th September 2007, 14:58	#11 (permalink)
*Beanie* Politeness officer Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,196	Re: Valve Flusher, Maintenance Aid Quote: (Originally Posted by cool_hardware52) I certainly will have at least one on display. Keep in mind that everything we bring into DEMA is charged a freight rate of $0.52 per pound, just to move it from the parking lot to your booth! That does not include the freight from California to Florida. That fact makes me reluctant to bring anything I don't have to. Tobin stick one in your pocket __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk www.divelife.co.uk
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25th September 2007, 15:07	#12 (permalink)
cramerdn Obey my dog! Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Townsville QLD Posts: 511	Re: Valve Flusher, Maintenance Aid Quote: (Originally Posted by cool_hardware52) I certainly will have at least one on display. Keep in mind that everything we bring into DEMA is charged a freight rate of $0.52 per pound, just to move it from the parking lot to your booth! That does not include the freight from California to Florida. That fact makes me reluctant to bring anything I don't have to. Tobin So just have the sales part of the operation in the parking lot __________________ "Its better to live one day as a tiger than an entire life as a worm." "But who's ever heard of a worm skin rug?"
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27th September 2007, 15:49	#13 (permalink)
AD_ward9 So much more to learn Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,724	Re: Valve Flusher, Maintenance Aid That is a very good idea! Green posted. One of my most memorable gear failures was a wing with 110lb lift. I miss out the company, because any wing can do this. We were trimix diving from a RIB down in Cornwall, from a sandy beach - something I do not normally do (diving at the time was from rock, hardboats etc). Anyhow, sand got everywhere. After cooking in a dry suit, full trimix kit, on a RIB, finally got in the water. Descent helped relax, more from relief from not being on the RIB. Started swimming around the wreck. After a few minutes, there was a pop, and suddenly I started going upwards, so pulled out my dry suit valve, but was still going upwards so I swam over to the wreck and hung on. Unfortunately when hanging onto the wreck, with a 110lb lift wing full up with gas, you cannot bend into a ball to get the dump valve very high, so the dump valve does not work (air does not come out of the lowest parts of a wing very well). I was rehearsing in my mind the sequence of letting go of the wreck, rocketing up while going for my knife and cutting through the wing, working out how many feet per second this would be, when my buddy noticed (Mark Reeves) and swam over. He tried dumping the wing but could not. He then nearly had a heart attack when he realised what the problem was and could not get the connector off the inflator. I was muttering to get the <snip> knife out, when he got his knife and stabbed the wing. We debated about continuing the dive as there was a redudant wing, but decided that we had better call it as you never what can happen next when this sort of thing happens. Sand. It is amazing stuff when inside inflators. I have never heard of anyone else with a wing fail. A certain dive operation in that part of the world could hardly believe it. Saw the cut wing, and the language from my buddy, and thought we had a curse over us. Everything fails, sometime. Washing things out properly no doubt increases the space between those "sometimes". Alex Quote: (Originally Posted by cool_hardware52) I shore dive in So Cal. That means sand in places it was never intended to be. I have always made a practice of flushing, or trying to flush fresh water through my power inflator "add" valve and through my drysuit inflate valve. Usually I just hold the end of the garden hose over the nipple and hope some of the flow actually goes through the valve. This sort of works. Then I got the idea of taking an old LP hose and via the magic of thread cutting lathes, connect a female garden hose adapter on the "regulator" end of the hose. Bingo! Very handy. Just click on the nipple of either the power inflator or Drysuit inflator and push nice, clean, salt free water through these potentially finicky valves. Others might want these I thought, but the cost of a LP hose assembly + special 3/8 x 24 to 1/2 npt adapter + garden hose adapter would make it about $40. Bummer. What was needed was a device that would accept a male garden hose on one end and fit onto to an inflator QD nipple on the other. Here it is. http://www.rebreatherworld.com/photopost/data/500/medium/P1010183.jpg http://www.rebreatherworld.com/photo...m/P1010184.jpg http://www.rebreatherworld.com/photo...m/P1010181.jpg This part is molded out of a fairly stiff durometer elastomer. It has threads in the big hex end to screw onto a garden hose. On the other end just pushes onto the nipple. There is a "oring" like feature in this end of the hose that engages the groove in the inflator nipple. This "snap fit" makes the Valve Flusher self retaining up to about 100 psi water pressure. The small ball shut off valve makes the flusher easy to use, and provides a secure attachment to the garden hose. Many garden hose ends are imperfect (beat up) and the shut off valve has a replaceable washer. I don't yet have final pricing, but I hope to offer the shutoff valve and Valve flusher for about $12. Tobin Last edited by AD_ward9 : 27th September 2007 at 15:51.
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8th October 2007, 17:45	#14 (permalink)
devilgas CCR Instructor Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Optima Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: FL, USA Posts: 191	Re: Valve Flusher, Maintenance Aid Quote: (Originally Posted by cool_hardware52) Come and get 'um https://www.deepseasupply.com/index.php?product=1301 Should be shipping Wednesday. Tobin These will work sweeeeet on the Diverite O2ptima manual injector fittings for the lungs as well. Thanks............ __________________ www.deeptek.net Inspiration / Evolution, O2ptima Instructor
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8th October 2007, 18:16	#15 (permalink)
cool_hardware52 RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: SoCal USA Posts: 368	Re: Valve Flusher, Maintenance Aid Quote: (Originally Posted by devilgas) These will work sweeeeet on the Diverite O2ptima manual injector fittings for the lungs as well. Thanks............ You are most welcome. Tobin __________________ www.deepseasupply.com
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4th November 2007, 12:39	#16 (permalink)
mriopel Sadly Missed (RIP) Current Rebreather/s: Optima Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: usa Posts: 167	Re: Valve Flusher, Maintenance Aid Good ideal Mike
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Celia_E Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: back from paradise... Posts: 105	Re: Valve Flusher, Maintenance Aid The valve flusher fits my meg manual add fittings very well, no more trying to do this "by hand" so to speak, makes it fast and easy. It was great meeting you in person. Thanks!! Dive safe, Celia __________________ "We are now a two Meg family!!!"
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