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  • Are you a non-instructor member of the NSS-CDS?

    9 14.52%
  • Are you a non-instructor member of the NACD?

    5 8.06%
  • Are you a non-instructor member of the NSS-CDD & NACD?

    4 6.45%
  • Are you an instructor & member of the NSS-CDS?

    0 0%
  • Are you an instructor & member of the NACD?

    1 1.61%
  • Are you an instructor member of the NSS-CDS & NACD?

    1 1.61%
  • Were you a member of the NSS-CDS & dropped your membership?

    5 8.06%
  • Were you a member of the NACD & dropped your membership?

    3 4.84%
  • Cave Diver, but never a member of any association

    34 54.84%
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Thread: Cave Associations Membership Poll

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    Banned dgschott is on a distinguished road dgschott is on a distinguished road dgschott's Avatar
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    Cave Associations Membership Poll

    I am a life member in the CDS, and a 5 year member in the NACD
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    Re: Cave Associations Membership Poll

    9: none of the above.

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    Re: Cave Associations Membership Poll

    Lol! Damn... I knew I'd forget something...... If a moderator wants to add that as #9, that's ok with me, or otherwise, just don't vote

    Quote Originally Posted by decoweenie  View Original Post
    9: none of the above.

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    Re: Cave Associations Membership Poll

    Hi,

    Would it be possible to know the goal of this poll?

    Do you have any concern about one or both associations?
    Do you want to share your opinion about these associations?

    Cheers

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    Re: Cave Associations Membership Poll

    What about a cave instructor that is none of the above?

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    Re: Cave Associations Membership Poll

    That'd be the last item.... which incidentally is what I ticked.

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    Re: Cave Associations Membership Poll

    CDG founded 1946

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    Re: Cave Associations Membership Poll

    I am a cave diver but have joined neither organization that you list due to their decidedly local mindset.

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    Re: Cave Associations Membership Poll

    OK, this one is dificult, as I fall into multiple categories.

    1. I am a non- instructor member of the NSS-CDS (as I am not a CDS instructor).

    2. I am a former instructor-member of the NACD. I resigned the beginning of November for a number of reasons- which I'll be happy to elaborate if anyone is interested.

    3. I am a Cave Diving instructor for another entity (NAUI).

    Now I'm off to teach Cave Diving.... in sub freezing temps grrrrrrr.

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    Re: Cave Associations Membership Poll

    Quote Originally Posted by trob09  View Original Post
    I am a cave diver but have joined neither organization that you list due to their decidedly local mindset.
    I am a member of both organizations who publically urged people to not renew their memberships for reasons similar to yours but was approached by NSS-CDS BOD members who were proactive and constructive in their approach to some of the things I expressed dissatisfaction with. Rather than take my toys and go home I have (publically) decided to stay and play a bit more it the sand box in the hopes of seeing some changes.

    Only time will tell, but IMO, the concept behind these organizations makes them worth putting a little effort into fixing that which appears to be broken.

    I think the agency role has been confused over the years. They were originally intended to promote cave conservation and teach and develop methods of safe cave diving. IMO, they have evolved into commercial training agencies whose broad scope presents a conflict of interest. The training now belongs in the private sector. The role of the agencies should be to stand watch dog over what the private sector is doing and lending their collective expertise to the development of safer methodology.

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