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    Re: Be safe out there. Use your checklists!

    sad story ,



    but you could not blame that on not using a checklist .
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    Re: Be safe out there. Use your checklists!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gobfish1  View Original Post
    sad story ,



    but you could not blame that on not using a checklist .

    Not to split hairs on this as the author of the news article is an complete idiot with his drama prose writing; but if reported correctly, it seems he did not turn his O2 tank on. If that is the case, a checklist should have/would have corrected this... at least all the checklists I use, including OC.



    Bugge, 35, had not turned on the oxygen supply to his Liberty rebreather, according to an equipment inspection by maker Divesoft.

    And this quote, really? I know plenty of people who use them at recreational limits, albeit for insane extended BT.


    Rebreathers are used for more aggressive dives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whynot?  View Original Post
    Not to split hairs on this as the author of the news article is an complete idiot with his drama prose writing; but if reported correctly, it seems he did not turn his O2 tank on. If that is the case, a checklist should have/would have corrected this... at least all the checklists I use, including OC.



    Bugge, 35, had not turned on the oxygen supply to his Liberty rebreather, according to an equipment inspection by maker Divesoft.

    And this quote, really? I know plenty of people who use them at recreational limits, albeit for insane extended BT.


    Rebreathers are used for more aggressive dives.

    yes i read the article to,

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    Re: Be safe out there. Use your checklists!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gobfish1  View Original Post
    sad story ,
    but you could not blame that on not using a checklist .

    I agree with you this is tragic, but I respectfully disagree that a checklist might not have helped to prevent it. I believe a simple pre splash checklist might have definitely helped to prevent rolling into the water w/o O2 on.

    I've attached a scan of mine. I wrote it myself. It is short. It is printed on the back of an ordinary 3 x 5 index card and laminated to keep it waterproof. It is stowed in its very own small pocket on my rig's harness. It only leaves its pocket for a brief time, just before entering the water every time I dive. Before I wrote and started using it, I had at one time or another been lucky enough to survive messing up pretty much everything on it.

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    Re: Be safe out there. Use your checklists!

    I do not want to sound like I am against checklists or that it might have prevented this accident, but were we not ALL taught how to deal with this simple issue? What about monitoring your PO2 and following procedures when an error occurs?


    Having O2 off being the cause of death or even a near miss makes me think the diver in question is not ready to use the machine in the first place. I had roll offs on 2 separate occasions training on my Optima until I trashed the original backplate and made my own. And yes, I have jumped in for a second or third dive without turning the tank back on. It is just not something that should be such a big deal.


    I am sure to get flamed over this but I can not believe that I am the only one to have these thoughts.
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    Re: Be safe out there. Use your checklists!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dsix36  View Original Post
    I do not want to sound like I am against checklists or that it might have prevented this accident, but were we not ALL taught how to deal with this simple issue? What about monitoring your PO2 and following procedures when an error occurs?


    Having O2 off being the cause of death or even a near miss makes me think the diver in question is not ready to use the machine in the first place. I had roll offs on 2 separate occasions training on my Optima until I trashed the original backplate and made my own. And yes, I have jumped in for a second or third dive without turning the tank back on. It is just not something that should be such a big deal.


    I am sure to get flamed over this but I can not believe that I am the only one to have these thoughts.
    I'll admit I found myself thinking about all the opportunities to notice something like this ...
    - pre-jump checklist
    - prebreathe
    - check pO2 before hitting the water
    - check pO2 at surface before descent
    - monitor pO2 every 1-4 minutes

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    Re: Be safe out there. Use your checklists!

    Add check Dil ADV, check wing, check O2 mav, verify pressures during each, and you've completed the above list

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    Re: Be safe out there. Use your checklists!

    And there is no warning on the Liberty (either active with a beep/vibration or visual) when the po2 falls under a low value ?

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    Yes ! There are warnings when you don't open oxygen valve.....both handset vibrates and Hud blinks its three red lights, immediately the PO2 drops ..... that the reason I m still alive.....

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