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    My AMAZING Lar V and Tac-100 !!!

    Hi all

    first of all, I want to let you know it has been a 7 year dream for me to want to own a Lar V unit !

    Thanks to Mike Down from Australia, I am a Lar V owner now !!

    Mike did an amazing packing job and he kept the unit in absolutly mint condition, the unit

    was never WET, never had sorb in ! and tons of spare parts !! the unit was for Drager

    show booth unit, the shell is really one of kind finish !

    Also , Funny thing, I bought a brand new Tac board , RJI say they won't sell to public...

    But apparently they agree to sell me one.(from a third agency).. pretty pricey tho, worth it !


    Also here is the original LAR V operation Manuel , I scaned it, if anyone interested here is

    the link for google drive.. PM me if the link doesn't work



    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8h...5lRUtDaE0/view



    ok nuff talkingi here are some

    pictures !!







































    Lastly took a selfie wearing the unit ! not sure I will take it to the pool.. after all the unit still has it's V-card;) (for water)






    And again, I can not thank Mike enough.. I got this amazing package for an unbelievable

    deal, Drager no longer makes Lar V anymore, so never Wet Mint unit are rarer than

    rhinos now LOL
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    Re: My AMAZING Lar V and Tac-100 !!!

    Get some real training on that in a pool dude, there are a few things about that rig that the trusty little manual you have won't teach you. And learn all you can about HPO2 from someone who really knows about it, it isn't something to take a vanity selfie with or get from a message board if you get my drift...

    While the unit seems simple on the surface (pun intended), pure O2 is nothing to screw with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whynot?  View Original Post
    Get some real training on that in a pool dude, there are a few things about that rig that the trusty little manual you have won't teach you. And learn all you can about HPO2 from someone who really knows about it, it isn't something to take a vanity selfie with or get from a message board if you get my drift...

    While to unit seems simple on the surface (pun intended), pure O2 is nothing to screw with.
    I am not thinking taking it to the pool after all it was never wet. I am a Prism 2 diver so I do know how PPo2 works ... I also dive a OMG c96 they are quite similar as in oxygen rebreather

    sharing the Manul is so people can take a look at it, No one will dive depends on the manual that's crazy.. that';s how people die
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    Re: My AMAZING Lar V and Tac-100 !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeHuaSEALs  View Original Post
    I am not thinking taking it to the pool after all it was never wet. I am a Prism 2 diver so I do know how PPo2 works ... I also dive a OMG c96 they are quite similar as in oxygen rebreather

    sharing the Manul is so people can take a look at it, No one will dive depends on the manual that's crazy.. that';s how people die
    Good, but the PO2 is not what I was really getting at, we have all learned about PO2 in basic NITROX. What I meant was filling your own tanks, you won't find a shop who will fill your LAR bottles or hydro that tank, at least legally. So, you'd be doing your own fills at home with a booster...

    But since you said you want to keep your LAR dry, it's a moot point now isn't it? Expensive museum piece wasn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by whynot?  View Original Post
    Good, but the PO2 is not what I was really getting at, we have all learned about PO2 in basic NITROX. What I meant was filling your own tanks, you won't find a shop who will fill your LAR bottles or hydro that tank, at least legally. So, you'd be doing your own fills at home with a booster...

    But since you said you want to keep your LAR dry, it's a moot point now isn't it? Expensive museum piece wasn't it?
    yep.. a very expensive museum piece. maybe in future if i have free money I will get a used V and dive with it .

    Believe or not, I actually got access to a DOT approved with 3/4 oxygen valve tank, they are special made by catalina for military orders to use on Lar V, Drager charge a LOT of money on their tanks . so the contractor find some third party to produce the tank then just use Drager Valve. they look kinda like the Mk 25 tank but with stander Drager Valve instead of the mk25 valve.

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    Re: My AMAZING Lar V and Tac-100 !!!

    Hi "Whynot?"
    I don't get why you are so "hard" with him.
    The guy is passionate and he is sharing with us his happiness about his new found unit and documentation about this machine.
    Of course, like you, it makes me a bit jealous :) :) but I do understand the feeling he got.
    We all have been excited about our you toys, haven't we? That is the reason we are on this board also...
    I do and I am sure he does, understand there are some things to care about about diving these units but won't it be better to direct him to good sources or to give him information instead of ?
    I understand message on internet brings misunderstanding sometime and apologise if that is the case of my ranting :)
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    Re: My AMAZING Lar V and Tac-100 !!!

    Thanks for sharing the pics Joe - a most awesome LAR V, brand new and made recently vs very used or new old stock is quite the find!! The spares added in are fantastic!

    I second the comments from the other post - very happy to see someone so pumped on rebreathers, and particularly when he's waited forever to find a rare unit. I know this joy first-hand, having searched for several rare units for months/years. Our segment of the diving community is small, so we should welcome any/all enthusiasm with open arms - Joe's the owner of several rebreathers and is already in the "club", but I for one would like to encourage more to engage and post to this board. While we're at it, let's encourage more open circuit divers to engage too, ask questions, learn about rebreathers, and maybe take a demo dive like many of us once did years ago. Best to get more members in our club than push people away. Expanding the user base is good for growing the industry, and in turn good for all of us rebreather divers as well by giving us access to new rebreathers/technology and keeping supplies more broadly accessible...I for one would love to go get a last minute O2 fill/jug of sorb without driving 2 hours.

    Whynot's comments could have been less spikey (be happy for Joe as he struck LAR gold!), but at the same time he probably just worries that some random OC dude just got an O2 rebreather and is gung-ho to jump right in with it - we've all seen those stories. Some OC divers I've dived with are absolutely not in the right mindset for diving rebreathers, and would need "reprogrammed" before even trying it...some may not ever be suited to it. Judging by Joe's other units owned, I'm guessing he's not a random inexperienced OC dude .

    To be clear though, like pilots who need "checked-out" in different aircraft types, it's critical to do the same with rebreathers - every unit has its strengths and weaknesses, and better to find out about them from someone with hundreds of hours of experience than first hand. If you want to take the furthest measures, get an IANTD/other agency course on the LAR. I can recommend a couple people - they do exist, and it's well-worth the time and money. Plus it's rather fun to roll into a dive shop with your C-card that says "Drager LAR V" on it...most are at a loss for words when they see it !
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    Quote Originally Posted by spyder360  View Original Post
    Thanks for sharing the pics Joe - a most awesome LAR V, brand new and made recently vs very used or new old stock is quite the find!! The spares added in are fantastic!

    I second the comments from the other post - very happy to see someone so pumped on rebreathers, and particularly when he's waited forever to find a rare unit. I know this joy first-hand, having searched for several rare units for months/years. Our segment of the diving community is small, so we should welcome any/all enthusiasm with open arms - Joe's the owner of several rebreathers and is already in the "club", but I for one would like to encourage more to engage and post to this board. While we're at it, let's encourage more open circuit divers to engage too, ask questions, learn about rebreathers, and maybe take a demo dive like many of us once did years ago. Best to get more members in our club than push people away. Expanding the user base is good for growing the industry, and in turn good for all of us rebreather divers as well by giving us access to new rebreathers/technology and keeping supplies more broadly accessible...I for one would love to go get a last minute O2 fill/jug of sorb without driving 2 hours.

    Whynot's comments could have been less spikey (be happy for Joe as he struck LAR gold!), but at the same time he probably just worries that some random OC dude just got an O2 rebreather and is gung-ho to jump right in with it - we've all seen those stories. Some OC divers I've dived with are absolutely not in the right mindset for diving rebreathers, and would need "reprogrammed" before even trying it...some may not ever be suited to it. Judging by Joe's other units owned, I'm guessing he's not a random inexperienced OC dude .

    To be clear though, like pilots who need "checked-out" in different aircraft types, it's critical to do the same with rebreathers - every unit has its strengths and weaknesses, and better to find out about them from someone with hundreds of hours of experience than first hand. If you want to take the furthest measures, get an IANTD/other agency course on the LAR. I can recommend a couple people - they do exist, and it's well-worth the time and money. Plus it's rather fun to roll into a dive shop with your C-card that says "Drager LAR V" on it...most are at a loss for words when they see it !
    AWESOME ! I would love to take a IANTD lesson on this I will email you the detail

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    Re: My AMAZING Lar V and Tac-100 !!!

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    I've been diving O2 RBs for almost 25 years. Back when I started, you could only get training from the various militarys for a few units, civillian training either didn't exist or was under the table from the various manufacturers.
    Since my IDA76 was made in the Ukrane SSR (yes, back then the Ukrane was still a Soviet Socialist Republic) and my security clearance prohibited travel to any eastern block country, factory training was unavailable and civilian training didn't exist.
    Funny thing, most of the other divers in similar circumstances did what I did, asked questions and started carefully diving their units. Almost all of us survived.
    Even flying airplanes only requires a type acceptance to fly a new plane instead of a new pilots license. Why do the RB training agencys require a complete new set of courses to dive a new rb, instead of the read the manual and do a check out flight that the airplane manufacturers require?
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    Re: My AMAZING Lar V and Tac-100 !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by michael-fisch  View Original Post
    Even flying airplanes only requires a type acceptance to fly a new plane instead of a new pilots license. Why do the RB training agencys require a complete new set of courses to dive a new rb, instead of the read the manual and do a check out flight that the airplane manufacturers require?
    +1000 with this :)
    That is one of the worst thing the certifying agencies are doing with this over certification tendencies which are now more and more followed by diving centres and ... insurances. "Terrible" as someone would say :)
    Indeed, it is becoming more and more the norm to need to have a card for each machine, for each depth, for each configuration, for ... everything...
    As diving an oxygen rebreather and always making these military's connections, it makes me laugh. Come on, it is not rocket science and you don't need to be a "Seal" or whatever "military-pseudo-hero title" to use a RB,
    Can we not talk about diving without always referring to army's activities? :)
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