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    Laser eye surgery and deep diving

    Has anyone out there had laser eye surgery and dived deep.

    I was due to have LASIK surgery yesterday, however have now postponed this after meeting the surgeon and he didn't have the answers to the safety of it with regard to diving over 50 metres. (this conflicted with what his optometrist advised at a previous consultation) The surgeon then seemed to be recommending LASEK which I had not planned for in terms of recovery time off work - so I ended up postponing.

    Any experiences that anyone has had with either and any advice/ medical studies regarding the relative vulnerability of the eye and diving Post LASIK treatment would be gratefully received.

    The LASEK concerns me regarding recovery period and the outcome - again stories/advice/ good or bad would be very welcome.

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    Re: Laser eye surgery and deep diving

    I am an optometrist who worked in a laser vision centre for 18 months in Australia and have a fair idea of what you are going through. My role was to do the initial consultation including pretesting, council the patient, answer most of the questions and then put the person through to see the surgeon who went through the surgery with the patient and answered any final questions.

    To help you understand the second part of your post you need to look at it from the surgeon point of view. They assess your "risk profile" for the surgery to determine what is the best for you. Someone who is totally risk adverse you might consider telling them that glasses and contact lenses may be better suited to their personality.

    The next level down is someone who understands the risks but still has doubts. They want the surgery but doubts linger so the surgeon tells them LASEK/PRK is the best option for them. The heal time is longer by a fair time but there is no flap created so the total risk is less.

    The third person understands the risks and trusts the surgeon to do everything to minimise the risks. These people would be the LASIK group.

    I have had many a person who I talked to during the consultation who were suitable for LASIK but who after speaking to the surgeon were told LASEK/PRK was what they were "suitable" for. Corneal thickness, prescription and corneal curvature are only a part of the entire picture of who is suitable for what surgery.

    The other part of the post is in regard to diving after surgery. In the days after surgery for LASIK the big issue is infection. This is why there is a no swimming and be careful in the shower period. I assume you are worying about the flap lifting while diving ?

    If so then consider the US Navy have cleared pilots for LASIK fully aware that ejection is a real possibility for them. I have also assisted on "retreatments" where peoples eyes had changed years after the surgery and I can tell you the effort required to lift a fully head LASIK flap is considerable.

    Finally I know an insturctor who is advanced trimix, mixed gas CCR and full cave certified who has had LASIK many years ago and has had no problems. I amsure there are many divers on this forum who have had LASIK and are now diving without any issue.

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    Re: Laser eye surgery and deep diving

    Whatever you do, don't go cheap.
    I for one, wouldn't opt for one of these, 'treat now, pay next year' opticians in the UK....

    I work in the medical malpractice field (insurance), so know there are 100's if not 1000's of claims from patients relating to laser eye surgery that has not fully corrected the underlying 'fault' or actually caused more issues than before.

    I've stuck with glasses and contact lenses, until I find a proven surgeon.

    Good luck

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    Re: Laser eye surgery and deep diving

    I guess I fall in the "Don't Do it" side of the opinion.

    I think I have posted my experience before so a search would pull up the details but in summary.

    1) I had it done by an expensive well trained medical facility/eye doctor.
    2) Before I needed glasses to see distance but not for reading.
    3) I had it done about 8 years ago at around 46 year old.
    4) Immediately following the procedure I could see distance without correction.
    5) Had dry eyes following the procedure which is normal during recover but mine continued.
    6) Within 3 month post procedure I had regressed back to needing correction for distance and now needing correction to read.
    7) In mornings my vision is better and I need less correction then at the end of the day and it seems to relate to how dry my eyes are.
    8) Not scientific but I believe my vision is worst on deep dives versus shallow dives.

    I guess the bottomline is if you do it and it works it is fantastic but if you happen to be one of the few in which it does not then you will regret ever doing it. The problem is you do not know which one of these two categories you fit into until after it is too late.

    I would have been better to have never done it and would have several $1000's of dollars more in my bank account.

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    Re: Laser eye surgery and deep diving

    I am a ful Trimix instructor, and had Lasik in 2002. I made my first 200' dive 10 days after surgery (that was my decision, I wouldn't recommend that you do that), and since then I have made several hundred dives in excess of 200'- no problems whatsoever. My husband is also a very active CCR diver and has had Lasik- he hasn't had any issues either.

    I recognize that some people have had bad experiences with Lasik, but mine (and my husband's) have been stellar. As someone else said above, do your research on the surgeon and don't go cheap. I chose a surgeon who specializes in corneal transplants. She does Lasik one day a month. She was about $2000 more expensive than the average in my area, but entirely worth it in my opinion.

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    Did the procedure 8 years ago ( honestly don't remember which one was it), but I could see 10/10 straight after .



    Have since done several deep dives , down to 150m with no issues what so ever ...

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    Re: Laser eye surgery and deep diving

    Did Lasik in 2010 and never regreted it....I especially appreciate the enhanced peripheral vision after the procedure.


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    Re: Laser eye surgery and deep diving

    Yes, LASIK was some of the best money I ever spent, I had it done in the 90's and still see perfectly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wol  View Original Post
    Has anyone out there had laser eye surgery and dived deep.

    I was due to have LASIK surgery yesterday, however have now postponed this after meeting the surgeon and he didn't have the answers to the safety of it with regard to diving over 50 metres. (this conflicted with what his optometrist advised at a previous consultation) The surgeon then seemed to be recommending LASEK which I had not planned for in terms of recovery time off work - so I ended up postponing.

    Any experiences that anyone has had with either and any advice/ medical studies regarding the relative vulnerability of the eye and diving Post LASIK treatment would be gratefully received.

    The LASEK concerns me regarding recovery period and the outcome - again stories/advice/ good or bad would be very welcome.

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    I had LASIK in 1996 and have had no issues in deep dives to 330'. My experience with LASIK has been stellar. I only wish there was an equivalent for presbyopia (I chose not to go for mono vision).


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    Re: Laser eye surgery and deep diving

    Im a commercial saturation diver, so lots of time at deep depths, and have never had an issue with my laser eye surgery. I know many guys who have had the procedure and have never heard of a problem.

    BEST investment I ever made.

    Cam

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