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    Re: Pushing the mainline - The Pit, episode 2

    Ken,

    I'm not responding this to argue with you. Just as you said, it has to do with your own comfort level. We all have the right to dive in a way that makes us comfortable.

    However, when it comes to extremely long dives there is a balance between necessary deco and then adding additional deco stress, which in itself can be counter productive. It can be argued that there is such a thing as "too much deco". The same holds true for Oxygen. We either exceed the oxygen clock or endure more deco. We are diving outside the range of the average technical dive and we, therefore need to incorporate different approaches to our diving to stay safe...in our opinion.

    For us, its not about getting out sooner and needing to beat the clock. Based on our research we have reached a level of comfort in reducing deco stress by mitigating unnecessary penalties or rules that have no real bearing for the kind of diving we are doing. You might be interested to know that helium penalties come from saturation diving (where they are necessary) and have little bearing on the way we dive as non-saturation diving. Many people could argue the opposite to that statement, but it would be nothing more than argument...there is no conclusive proof either way. The key word here is conclusive.

    Again, we are not trying to imply we do anything better than anyone else and much of what we are doing is theory, as it is for all divers. The reason we are talking about this information is that many people ask. We have no problem sharing and while our philosophy may not be mainstream we would hope we receive the same respect from everyone that we have for others that do not dive like us. In other words, the Scuba Police have no bearing on the way we dive. After all, its our "bacon" on the line.

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    Re: Pushing the mainline - The Pit, episode 2

    It is an art more than a science, Peter. The important part is that it has worked for you. At least so far. You are absolutely right about it being our own bacon on the line. Therefore we each find our own comfort level. But thanks for pushing that envelope and letting us all know about it. That's how we advance our knowledge.
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    Re: Pushing the mainline - The Pit, episode 2

    Quote Originally Posted by kwinter  View Original Post
    It is an art more than a science, Peter. The important part is that it has worked for you. At least so far. You are absolutely right about it being our own bacon on the line. Therefore we each find our own comfort level. But thanks for pushing that envelope and letting us all know about it. That's how we advance our knowledge.
    Hello Ken,

    just like Peter, I don't want to argue but am only reiterating that to us, we are not "pushing any envelope" but are optimizing our decompression for the diving we are doing. We believe that more is not necessarily better.

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    Re: Pushing the mainline - The Pit, episode 2

    Awesome video and lighting

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    Re: Pushing the mainline - The Pit, episode 2

    Quote Originally Posted by madmosche  View Original Post
    Awesome video and lighting
    Thanks! Stay tuned, we are in Mexico this week and will be releasing a collection of videos over the coming months.

    In the near future we will be offering presentations at dive shows, etc. about the entire project as it developed over the years.

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