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    Re: What do you think caused these symptoms...

    Another vote for seeing a doctor in case its the diving aggravating something else... as for blaming the cleaning- even the best cleaning isn't 100% so its possible its any number of irritants, hope he feels better soon.

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    Re: What do you think caused these symptoms...

    It could easily be DCS or other barotrauma. See a diving specialist doc and get checked before its too late.

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    Re: What do you think caused these symptoms...

    He has seen several doctors at his place of employment...he is an anesthesiologist and has access to plenty of assistance there.

    One of those docs suggested new counter lungs to ensure its not mold.

    No signs of lung over-expansion injuries or DCS symptoms. Not to eliminate those as causes but there are no indicators nor counter-indicators either. Difficult to think those since its been every dive for the last 3 months, which is 6 dives...except one we did that was only 45 minutes to test some gear.

    Bob

    Keep any suggestions coming, they are helping. He is couch diving tonight. Cleaning tanks tomorrow.

    Thanks

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    Re: What do you think caused these symptoms...

    I dive a Meg, but live in a milder climate. With only a couple of hundred hours I am no authority, but I never sterilize my loop. We have lots of water here, and I use it.

    A clear advantage of the OTSCL is the ability to soak in a large sink. Rinse, soak, drain.

    At first I did use various concoctions to kill the little buggers. Always left a bad taste.

    For those proponents of chemical warfare I wonder if you all have considered just how sensitive your lungs are. I also wonder just how long your "sterile" loop remains so.

    I have been in the tropics and get that Florida is a different climatic zone from up here in the rain forest. However I am inclined to think that the current tendency to clean and kill all the bugs is often counter productive.

    Of course this may have nothing to do with the poor sod's problem, I wish him well and look forward to hearing about the solution.

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    Re: What do you think caused these symptoms...

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterVICEG  View Original Post
    A clear advantage of the OTSCL is the ability to soak in a large sink. Rinse, soak, drain.
    I won't comment on the use of chemicals, the jury seems divided on that but I do just in case...

    I do take issue with the above statement though... I have not yet come across a unit this is impossible, it certainly more time consuming on some units but the lung configuration seems to make no difference. One of the fastest units to remove and wash the lungs is the Classic Kiss, famous for its BMCL's no less!

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    Re: What do you think caused these symptoms...

    I am also a non loop cleaner, and I live in FL and dive frequently. I neither rinse nor disinfect the loop regularly, usually only if it's flown home from a long trip and was packed wet. I drain the loop and open the head so everything dries out- I do not disassemble and it lives in my garage. The first few times I didn't clean the loop or let it dry out, I got a high fever and general funk about 24 hours post dive. Under he current practice no problems. Been doing this for 8 years now. Disinfection of your own loop is overrated (ymmv).

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    What do you think caused these symptoms...

    As mentioned by one contributor, I would also look after a pulmonary oedema which appears far more often than what we think

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    Re: What do you think caused these symptoms...

    Ditto Heather's procedure. In my 3 years of Meg diving, I've only rinsed the loop a dozen or so times and disinfected maybe twice. Never had any problems and see no reason to change.

    Sent from behind a pint of Guinness.

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    Re: What do you think caused these symptoms...

    I've relayed pulmonary edema to him.

    I rinse and dry and am happy so far.

    Bob

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    Re: What do you think caused these symptoms...

    Quote Originally Posted by floridabob  View Original Post
    I've relayed pulmonary edema to him.

    I rinse and dry and am happy so far.

    Bob
    I've actually seen pulmonary edema- and this sounds similar, but the time delay is weird. A couple of years ago I was crewing as DSO on the MV Spree and another crew member had a pulmonary edema incident on the last dive (pulling the hook on a wreck in 300'). Symptoms presented in the water similar to the OPs description. Luckily we had Neil Polluck from DAM on board doing some research, he diagnosed correctly. Diver ultimately went to the hospital, iirc there was no chamber ride, just observation overnight.

    Again,m although this does sound similar, all the pulmonary edema cases I have heard of have presented in the water, not after a significant delay from surfacing.

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