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    Re: KISS Spirit CCR

    thanks Curt

    hopefully kiss will release some spec's soon, ie , depth rating (60m would be nice), scrubber duration and photos of how the unit sits on a person and where the cl attached/go etc.

    pricing would be nice as well!

    Matthew

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    Re: KISS Spirit CCR

    Seems to me that there is not any new ideas here, I am sure Andy Fritz at Rebreather Lab has curved lungs that wrap around your ribsand as for scrubber I think a guy called Paul Raymakers has somthing like that........

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    Re: KISS Spirit CCR

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Kennedy  View Original Post
    Seems to me that there is not any new ideas here, I am sure Andy Fritz at Rebreather Lab has curved lungs that wrap around your ribsand as for scrubber I think a guy called Paul Raymakers has somthing like that........
    like all things Chris, the proof will be in the pudding! May not be new, but if it works, then it may be useful/fun to dive.

    Interesting that they have finally gone away from the original ADV.

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    Re: KISS Spirit CCR

    Quote Originally Posted by MHD  View Original Post
    like all things Chris, the proof will be in the pudding! May not be new, but if it works, then it may be useful/fun to dive.

    Interesting that they have finally gone away from the original ADV.

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    Matt moving away from that old ADV is the biggest plus !

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    Quote Originally Posted by happy58900  View Original Post
    Matt moving away from that old ADV is the biggest plus !
    funnily I just spend the day on the lathe, making a shipwreck adv fit a sport kiss and getting it tuned properly. Both our units have aftermarket adv's. I understood kiss's ideas regarding why the ADV was set the way it was, but in reality it was a distraction from comfortable diving. both Rachel and mine are set so as to really keep loop volume on descent without out any thought or action by us, but still not hair trigger. Makes diving a breeze on them.

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    Re: KISS Spirit CCR

    Quote Originally Posted by MHD  View Original Post
    like all things Chris, the proof will be in the pudding! May not be new, but if it works, then it may be useful/fun to dive.

    Interesting that they have finally gone away from the original ADV.

    Matt
    They do work Matt, I have dive a curved set of counterlungs on my creation's on and off since I owned a Pelagian a few years ago they are great breathers. If you listen to what the guy says quote"It's unique because it has wrap around counterlungs which nobody else around the world is using" THAT IS WHAT I COMMENTED ON" It was unique when Andy used them so what the KISS guy said is not really true or to quote the old saying "Credit where credit is due and on a commercial unit that my friend goes to Andy Fritz of Rebreather Lab"

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    Re: KISS Spirit CCR

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Kennedy  View Original Post
    They do work Matt, I have dive a curved set of counterlungs on my creation's on and off since I owned a Pelagian a few years ago they are great breathers. If you listen to what the guy says quote"It's unique because it has wrap around counterlungs which nobody else around the world is using" THAT IS WHAT I COMMENTED ON" It was unique when Andy used them so what the KISS guy said is not really true or to quote the old saying "Credit where credit is due and on a commercial unit that my friend goes to Andy Fritz of Rebreather Lab"
    Hello Chris, definitely worth pointing out the similarities to the Pelagian. I'm sure this will improve on the KISS CK WOB, however, I'm very curious to know how the lower position of the rib lungs compares to the slightly higher over the shoulder to under arm position of the Pelagian.

    And, I have to wonder why after such a big loop redesign, they still prefer putting the ADV and OPV in a position where they are not easy to reach/manipulate or monitor for leaks, both of which do happen... -Andy

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    Re: KISS Spirit CCR

    The O2 onboard, and standard side mount dil idea is very sensible, glad to see somebody trying to make that idea more practicable. No doubt it's a safer way to structure CCR configuration. Maybe they have taken note of how Curt and others dive the CK... -Andy

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    The wrap around ribs counter lungs are positioned quite low. How does the unit breath when in vertical position?

    Two narrow axial scrubbers in series. WOB may be quite high. It would be great to see some real wob measures.

    Only one monitor with fisher connector. Quite far away from the original KISS. A death trap IMHO.

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