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    Re: Better ratio Kiss GEM Mouthpiece

    Quote Originally Posted by RAL  View Original Post
    Jeff not trying to be "smart" but you need to hook up with a mentor or take a class. Mike cannot "teach" you to dive the thing safely on the internet.


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    Understood, but thats not the question,its a matter of at least understanding what the limitations are of the 8:1 mouthpiece in a decision.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but other 8:1 units dont have this 2nd gas restriction?

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    Re: Better ratio Kiss GEM Mouthpiece

    Quote Originally Posted by Danseur  View Original Post
    The GEM vs a few different CCR units.
    The GEM is SCR, not CCR.
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    Re: Better ratio Kiss GEM Mouthpiece

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Pack  View Original Post
    Understood, but thats not the question,its a matter of at least understanding what the limitations are of the 8:1 mouthpiece in a decision.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but other 8:1 units dont have this 2nd gas restriction?
    Yes ALL scr units have this restriction.
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    Re: Better ratio Kiss GEM Mouthpiece

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Pack  View Original Post
    Understood, but thats not the question,its a matter of at least understanding what the limitations are of the 8:1 mouthpiece in a decision.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but other 8:1 units dont have this 2nd gas restriction?
    The other units would have to be limited also. you can't dive air or trimix close to surface. You would need a high 02 mix down to at least 30'. A hypoxic mix would be even deeper.

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    Re: Better ratio Kiss GEM Mouthpiece

    Quote Originally Posted by DepthCharge  View Original Post
    Yes ALL scr units have this restriction.
    This is not true. There are SCR with constant ppO2.
    Cobham earlier Carltech produce such a structure with laminar resistance.
    In addition, my 3 SCR SMS solutions (the counting of ventilation), with constant ppO2.

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    Re: Better ratio Kiss GEM Mouthpiece

    Quote Originally Posted by Philippe GERIN  View Original Post
    The GEM is SCR, not CCR.
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    Exactly why in two different categories.

    To clarify: It's GEM (and future variants) if SCR, and Meg/HH/Titan and one-off Sidemount units if CCR.

    The reduction of weight, size, costs, and complexity are very attractive when looking at the GEM. At near 3:1 it's a draw, but >8:1, and for where I want to go, it's a clear win.

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    Re: Better ratio Kiss GEM Mouthpiece

    Quote Originally Posted by anarchista  View Original Post
    This is not true. There are SCR with constant ppO2.
    Cobham earlier Carltech produce such a structure with laminar resistance.
    In addition, my 3 SCR SMS solutions (the counting of ventilation), with constant ppO2.

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    All COMMERCIAL units........I stand corrected.
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    Re: Better ratio Kiss GEM Mouthpiece

    thank you guys, appreciate the info.

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    Re: Better ratio Kiss GEM Mouthpiece

    Quote Originally Posted by Danseur  View Original Post
    Exactly why in two different categories.

    To clarify: It's GEM (and future variants) if SCR, and Meg/HH/Titan and one-off Sidemount units if CCR.

    The reduction of weight, size, costs, and complexity are very attractive when looking at the GEM. At near 3:1 it's a draw, but >8:1, and for where I want to go, it's a clear win.
    Same here, so I'm figuring a shallow gas on sling tank, and BG (tri mix) for the deeper stuff.

    Just spoke with my local instructor and we'll see how that goes.

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    Re: Better ratio Kiss GEM Mouthpiece

    When will we see a GEM mouthpiece for sale by itself?

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