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    Re: Armadillo Sidemount Cave Diving Fun

    Quote Originally Posted by R N  View Original Post
    How many versions have there been of the Armadillo and what are the differences between them?
    Rob,
    This is the Armadillo history as I know it. Others will no doubt correct me where I am wrong. The first Armadillo was conceived/designed by Brett H and Curt B and manufactured by Zeagle. The main distinguishing feature of the “A1” is that the inflator assembly attached at the right hip, and the wing material was a lighter/softer weave. Also the neckline was U shaped. The next Armadillo (A2 now manufactured for Golem Gear) moved the inflator assembly over to the left hip (like you have your Nomad), and the wing/bladder now appear tougher. The neckline is now more V shaped. The newest addition is the Armadillo Short; very similar to the A2, but with a detachable butt plate. This is a nice addition as the A2 is quite long, and in my opinion tough to fit well if you are not a tall person.

    If you look at the Armadillo photos on the Golem Gear web page Pictures 7 and 8 show Curt and Brett wearing the old origional style Armadillos.

    I Hope this helps,

    Mark
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    Re: Armadillo Sidemount Cave Diving Fun

    Stay tuned
    I saw the new Zeagle Prototype sidemount at DEMA in Nov, still working on it but looks a treat..

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    Re: Armadillo Sidemount Cave Diving Fun

    Quote Originally Posted by eel  View Original Post
    Rob,
    This is the Armadillo history as I know it. Others will no doubt correct me where I am wrong. The first Armadillo was conceived/designed by Brett H and Curt B and manufactured by Zeagle. The main distinguishing feature of the “A1” is that the inflator assembly attached at the right hip, and the wing material was a lighter/softer weave. Also the neckline was U shaped. The next Armadillo (A2 now manufactured for Golem Gear) moved the inflator assembly over to the left hip (like you have your Nomad), and the wing/bladder now appear tougher. The neckline is now more V shaped. The newest addition is the Armadillo Short; very similar to the A2, but with a detachable butt plate. This is a nice addition as the A2 is quite long, and in my opinion tough to fit well if you are not a tall person.

    If you look at the Armadillo photos on the Golem Gear web page Pictures 7 and 8 show Curt and Brett wearing the old origional style Armadillos.

    I Hope this helps,

    Mark
    Pretty accurate description.

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    Re: Armadillo Sidemount Cave Diving Fun

    Quote Originally Posted by eel  View Original Post
    Rob,
    This is the Armadillo history as I know it. Others will no doubt correct me where I am wrong. The first Armadillo was conceived/designed by Brett H and Curt B and manufactured by Zeagle. The main distinguishing feature of the “A1” is that the inflator assembly attached at the right hip, and the wing material was a lighter/softer weave. Also the neckline was U shaped. The next Armadillo (A2 now manufactured for Golem Gear) moved the inflator assembly over to the left hip (like you have your Nomad), and the wing/bladder now appear tougher. The neckline is now more V shaped. The newest addition is the Armadillo Short; very similar to the A2, but with a detachable butt plate. This is a nice addition as the A2 is quite long, and in my opinion tough to fit well if you are not a tall person.

    If you look at the Armadillo photos on the Golem Gear web page Pictures 7 and 8 show Curt and Brett wearing the old origional style Armadillos.

    I Hope this helps,

    Mark
    Thanks, Mark. I was pretty sure there were 3, but I had only heard of the original and the A2. The A2 short must be the 3rd. The original has about 33 lbs of lift and the A2 has about 45 lbs. Is that correct?

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    Re: Armadillo Sidemount Cave Diving Fun

    Quote Originally Posted by R N  View Original Post
    Thanks, Mark. I was pretty sure there were 3, but I had only heard of the original and the A2. The A2 short must be the 3rd. The original has about 33 lbs of lift and the A2 has about 45 lbs. Is that correct?
    I believe the original armadillo’s lift was in the low 30s, and the newer ones have a little more maybe mid 30s, but with the gusseting bungee and waist strap tie downs the lift is further reduced depending on diver setup. I am currently diving the A2 and have the gusseting bungee quite tight. I have no idea how much lift it is giving me, but I do not feel the lift is ever a limiting factor in any of my diving. However, it does require planning for. Next time I see you at the springs I will further explain my strategies for dealing with different situations. Depending on the dive I will mix and match the following equipment. Faber LP 85s, PST HP 100s, PST LP 80s, Faber LP 108s, 5MM wet suit with 6mm hooded vest, Diving Concepts Neoprene Drysuit, DUI TLS 350 Drysuit. AL 80 for stages/deep deco mixes, and AL40s for shallower deco mixes. I had some Worthington 108s, but got rid of them as they were too heavy and would not work well with my Armadillo the way I have it configured. The Armadillo does have limited lift, but this is why it is so streamlined. Just like with rebreathers there are pluses and minuses to all the rigs out there. The trick is weighing the differences and finding the one that will work for YOU and your needs.
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    Re: Armadillo Sidemount Cave Diving Fun

    Thanks, Mark. I'm considering buying a used Armadillo. It's the original version so applications would be limited, but I think it will fit the need I have it planned for. I have my Nomad pretty streamlined, but there's nothing wrong with expanding my options and the price isn't too bad.

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    Re: Armadillo Sidemount Cave Diving Fun

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