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    Re: "Flue Η1Ν1" - did you get your kids vaccined?

    There was a kid that became the face of H1N1, a healthy young hockey player without any "condition" that died. The media was on it like a fly on doo-doo.

    It was later discovered that the kid died of meningitis, not H1N1. That small fact was not reported as vigorously...

    Is there a vaccine for meningitis? No!

    There are different classes of human beings: sociopaths that aren't particularly concerned about what damage they do to others to achieve their ends and constitute about 4% of the population. There is also the 96% of the population.

    Sociopaths need to be identified for the good of the 96%.

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    Re: "Flue Η1Ν1" - did you get your kids vaccined?

    Quote Originally Posted by zzzzzzzz  View Original Post
    There was a kid that became the face of H1N1, a healthy young hockey player without any "condition" that died. The media was on it like a fly on doo-doo.

    It was later discovered that the kid died of meningitis, not H1N1. That small fact was not reported as vigorously...

    Is there a vaccine for meningitis? No!

    There are different classes of human beings: sociopaths that aren't particularly concerned about what damage they do to others to achieve their ends and constitute about 4% of the population. There is also the 96% of the population.

    Sociopaths need to be identified for the good of the 96%.
    I agree with some of this. But there is a vaccine for meningitis. Before 1990 the leading cause for meningitis was was Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib). There is a vaccine against this and nearly all children get it. Nowadays there are other bacteria causing meningitis and getting a vaccine for these is much harder.
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    Re: "Flue Η1Ν1" - did you get your kids vaccined?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChemicalDiver  View Original Post
    I agree with some of this. But there is a vaccine for meningitis. Before 1990 the leading cause for meningitis was was Haemophilus influenzae type b (Hib). There is a vaccine against this and nearly all children get it. Nowadays there are other bacteria causing meningitis and getting a vaccine for these is much harder.
    The devil is in the detail.
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    Not only that, but there is a Vaccine against Niceria Meningitides, which is THE bacterial meningitis bug. They dont recommend it for everyone except for certian groups.

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    Re: "Flue Η1Ν1" - did you get your kids vaccined?

    We all seem to agree that vaccines are not a Panacea.

    It doesn't mean you got vaccinated that you won't get a virus either.

    Each vaccine carries risk and their use must be waranted out of necessity and balanced against the risk of the disease. H1N1 doesn't cut it. How this got past the "experts" makes you wonder if WHO has become like the weather people: unable to predict or report current weather accurately. It may be yet another example how we promote incompetence in our society. Feces floats to the top once again.

    Life would really suck if we were subjected to weekly vaccines for every bug that came along, vaccines would then probably become greater killers than all those bugs that cycle through as life goes on.

    WHO management of H1N1 makes you wonder if the folks looking for asteroids are equally incompetent. If this is the case, one wonders if they'll be able to report accurately if one does strike, much less finding it...

    Did the dinausaurs also have idiots at the top telling them to worry about the common cold while the big one was heading for the planet? If so, we hopefully don't have too long to suffer this BS.

    So if it isn't a conspiracy, it comes down, once again, to fricking incompetence, just great. In a way, I wish it was a conspiracy, it is less depressing than the though that idiots are once again running yet another organisation into the ground.

    Since this is a diving forum, we can only hope the SS WHO hits a 'berg and goes to the bottom so we can dive it!

    Happy new year. 2009 won't be missed.

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    Re: "Flue Η1Ν1" - did you get your kids vaccined?

    The stench from WHO has finally resulted in someone asking the right questions.

    It seems as though it was a conspiracy all along. There were many dubious deaths associated with vaccines, lowered standards for declaring pandemics and lest we forget kickbacks and private funding for the WHO from none other than the beneficiaries of government largess for lucrative vaccine contracts, ie pharmaceuticals.

    All these scandals make me ill, is there a vaccine for that?

    In light of the power weilded by CEOs and insiders to such organizations coupled with the inability of governments to pursue these folks to obtain a measure of justice, the Chinese model is looking much better to enforce the right behavior. You can have the big job with the millions, but if you screw up, deliberately or through incompetence, there is a cheap, effective and final solution to the problem. Perhaps that will encourage the correct behavior.

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    Re: "Flue Η1Ν1" - did you get your kids vaccined?

    Spyros,

    My wife, and I and our 19 month old daughter all have had the H1N1 vaccine as well as seasonal flu vaccines. Why take a chance on not having your family vaccinated? I fail to see the potential upside in that, while it's very easy to see the downside potential. People have died from it.

    The folks that urge against it are those on the fringe, the mis-informed, conspiracy theorists, or those that just don't know any better.

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    Re: "Flue Η1Ν1" - did you get your kids vaccined?

    I've run into the claim that the WHO is now being investigated for it's potential roll in over blowing this pandemic, has anyone found more solid mainstream press on this?

    claims like:

    "the distortion was an effort to boost the sales"

    The U.S. and the Council of Europe member states have launched investigations into these allegations, reporting that they will look into the possibility of undue influence by the pharmaceutical industry on WHO, particularly in regard to the H1N1 campaign.

    Scandal surrounds H1N1 pandemic



    Council of Europe Parliamentary Assembly to Investigate WHO and “Pandemic” Scandal

    A few radical articles can probably be found about every vaccine, I've just never run into so much from so many sources on one in particular... it really makes me wonder about this vaccine in particular.
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