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    too fricken heavy....

    Did initial training in the N. Fl caves. AL plate, drysuit, 3L fabers & a 3lb weight mounted high on the can had me weighted and trimmed perfectly....

    Got back out this past weekend in a 3mm in salt water and I was way heavy....
    On the reef in 15' I pulled the lead off and still sank, w/ an empty wing and normal loop...

    I'm about ready to try out a set of AL 19's to shave two more pounds off... then I'm back to adding weight to balance....

    Just how high do folks slide the tanks up?

    -Tim
    Last edited by netmage; 28th April 2008 at 19:05. Reason: added saltwater nugget....

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    Re: too fricken heavy....

    Tim

    I am not diving the Meg yet but I have been looking at the setup of others. I dove with a friend in the Mexican caves last week that had hose clamped his BP directly to the scrubber cannister directly (ie removed the STA) and de-inverted the tanks to try to remove some weight and get better trim.

    Also, I don't know what your BP weight is but the Golem Stream plate is 2 lbs, 2 ozs. If you want to try one I can bring it down with me in May.

    John

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    Re: too fricken heavy....

    Had the same problem when I took my Meg to Mexcio last year. 3mm suit , al plate. Sank like a stone. I was using borrowed 2 litre steel fabers (Evo cylinders) and had to have them as high as possible to get trim , which made the valves very hard to reach. Not ideal.....
    Not sure what others use but Al tanks or de-inversion would be what I try next time.
    Steve

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    Re: too fricken heavy....

    Two words - "duct tape!"




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    Re: too fricken heavy....

    BTW Tim: Glad to hear you are doing better and back in the water - Looking forward to diving with you soon!

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    Re: too fricken heavy....

    If your looking to only add trim weight then instead of duct tape get a pair of ankle weights. They fit the 3L tanks perfectly and are alot easier to remove and replace then duct tape. You will look a bit more......ummm....show we say prepared with them.

    John

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    Re: too fricken heavy....

    Flip side: Yesterday. Fresh water (49F BTW...). First time this BP/ can/ scrubber/ suit/ undies/ bottle/ bailout/ configuration. 4 mm crushed neoprene dry (dry at least at beginning of dive, but that's another story :p ). 19 cf AL bottles. Std. Meg can w/ small radial scrubber & appropriate spacer. Just one 30 cf AL bailout. Carbon fiber BP. Trim pretty good. Took a whopping 32 lb lead added a couple of lb at a time to get negative! (I've been told before I'm full of hot air, but this was ridiculous!!!).
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    Re: too fricken heavy....

    okay okay....

    what a shock I got when I looked in this thread and see my duct
    tape plastered allover it !!

    By the way I got some Faber 18's now so the duct tape is gone.
    and guess what... like tim I'm way too heavy but I will be switching
    to an AL plate next week and checking that out. So far i haven't taken
    the new fabers in the ocean just freshwater. The ocean test happens
    tonight.

    :)

    Les

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    Re: too fricken heavy....

    Rather than duct tape, use pockets. See

    http://www.rebreatherworld.com/showthread.php?t=16506

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    Re: too fricken heavy....

    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer  View Original Post
    Rather than duct tape, use pockets. See

    http://www.rebreatherworld.com/showthread.php?t=16506
    I have an xs scuba weight pocket clamped to the very top of the can right now... I think I'm going to add 2 more to the top of the cylinders, just so I have options...

    Once I get it dialed it, more permanent solutions, like the stainless handle will go in....

    To make matters worse, I also switched to an 8lb radial.., so there's ~2.5 more lbs of sorb in the overall package...

    -Tim
    Last edited by netmage; 7th May 2008 at 13:23.

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