CCR Cave Summit - NACD

w ripley · 23rd November 2007, 18:24

I haven't seen any posts on last weekend's rebreather workshop at Ginnie Springs, Florida so thought I would share the following:

Larry Green, the NACD Training Chairman, had a large hand in putting everything together. In all, there were between 75 and 100 people in attendance (about half raised their hands when asked who owned rebreathers). It was billed as "A hands-on workshop to introduce basic principles of rebreather diving, and an opportunity for instructors and active CCR and SCR divers to discuss issues pertinent to cave diving." In my opinion, the workshop lived up to its billing.

The 5+ hour program was moderated by Jill Heinerth who was the Summit's creator. Jill is a natural workshop leader and added humor about previous career dives and early CCR "experiments."

Lamar Hires presented the Optima and NitekX computer, Leon Scamahorn the Megalodon, Brett Hemphill the KISS, John Conway the Inspiration Vision and Evolution, Jarrod Jablonski the RB80, Jakub Rehacek the Juergensen Marine Hammerhead CCR, and Vince Ferris the MK15 and Lar5.

It was nice to be able to put your hands on the different units and to have several of their designers there to ask specific questions of why and why not. Also, it was interesting to see how each had personalized their rigs with counter lung attachments, plumbing, etc.

After lunch, which was provided free by NACD, Tom Mount talked about lessons learned on the CCR. Petar Denoble of DAN reviewed the rebreather accident analysis by DAN. Finally, there was an open panel of all of the speakers, followed by in-water demos for those who wanted them.

Being a Meg diver, it was nice to be able to meet Leon, who had flown in from the West Coast just for this event.

One panel discussion I found interesting was the position by the manufacturers apparently against the BOV, although the Inspiration is going to be offered with an optional BOV to meet the request of its customers. Jakub, who runs Golem - the largest supplier of after-market BOVs - had a differing position, of course. Also, the Juergensen CCR, which Jakub had a large hand in developing, comes standard with a BOV.

I understand the NACD is going to make the video of the workshop available on its website. You might look for it if you would like to learn more.

Anyway, three cheers to NACD for taking the step.

Regards,

Bill

Mixaddict · 23rd November 2007, 18:31

Bill,

Thanks for the overview for those of us unable to attend.

Regards,
Randy

***diverklondike*** · 23rd November 2007, 18:39

Bill,

Thanks for the details...

I would be very interested in who was not "pro" a BOV and what their reasoning behind this was.

Best Regards,

Mark

The conversation on BOVs has been split into a seperate thread....

http://www.rebreatherworld.com/bail-...tml#post153050

***caveseeker7*** · 23rd November 2007, 19:24

Much appreciated, Bill, thanks for the write-up.

Mark, Pete Readey is also against BOVs. WOB too bad, additional failure points.

Personally I believe both should be able to be sorted, he probably couldn't be arsed to make them.

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w ripley Sorta New Member Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Norfolk VA USA Posts: 127	CCR Cave Summit - NACD I haven't seen any posts on last weekend's rebreather workshop at Ginnie Springs, Florida so thought I would share the following: Larry Green, the NACD Training Chairman, had a large hand in putting everything together. In all, there were between 75 and 100 people in attendance (about half raised their hands when asked who owned rebreathers). It was billed as "A hands-on workshop to introduce basic principles of rebreather diving, and an opportunity for instructors and active CCR and SCR divers to discuss issues pertinent to cave diving." In my opinion, the workshop lived up to its billing. The 5+ hour program was moderated by Jill Heinerth who was the Summit's creator. Jill is a natural workshop leader and added humor about previous career dives and early CCR "experiments." Lamar Hires presented the Optima and NitekX computer, Leon Scamahorn the Megalodon, Brett Hemphill the KISS, John Conway the Inspiration Vision and Evolution, Jarrod Jablonski the RB80, Jakub Rehacek the Juergensen Marine Hammerhead CCR, and Vince Ferris the MK15 and Lar5. It was nice to be able to put your hands on the different units and to have several of their designers there to ask specific questions of why and why not. Also, it was interesting to see how each had personalized their rigs with counter lung attachments, plumbing, etc. After lunch, which was provided free by NACD, Tom Mount talked about lessons learned on the CCR. Petar Denoble of DAN reviewed the rebreather accident analysis by DAN. Finally, there was an open panel of all of the speakers, followed by in-water demos for those who wanted them. Being a Meg diver, it was nice to be able to meet Leon, who had flown in from the West Coast just for this event. One panel discussion I found interesting was the position by the manufacturers apparently against the BOV, although the Inspiration is going to be offered with an optional BOV to meet the request of its customers. Jakub, who runs Golem - the largest supplier of after-market BOVs - had a differing position, of course. Also, the Juergensen CCR, which Jakub had a large hand in developing, comes standard with a BOV. I understand the NACD is going to make the video of the workshop available on its website. You might look for it if you would like to learn more. Anyway, three cheers to NACD for taking the step. Regards, Bill
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23rd November 2007, 18:31	#2 (permalink)
Mixaddict Always Learning! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Other CCR Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Dolphin Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Draper, Utah USA Posts: 426	Re: CCR Cave Summit - NACD Bill, Thanks for the overview for those of us unable to attend. Regards, Randy __________________ Randy Thornton (MixAddict) Inspiration, Evolution,Hammerhead & Sentinel CCR Instructor
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23rd November 2007, 18:39	#3 (permalink)
*diverklondike* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,463	Re: CCR Cave Summit - NACD Bill, Thanks for the details... I would be very interested in who was not "pro" a BOV and what their reasoning behind this was. Best Regards, Mark The conversation on BOVs has been split into a seperate thread.... http://www.rebreatherworld.com/bail-...tml#post153050 Last edited by diverklondike : 24th November 2007 at 14:46.
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*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,325	Re: CCR Cave Summit - NACD Much appreciated, Bill, thanks for the write-up. Mark, Pete Readey is also against BOVs. WOB too bad, additional failure points. Personally I believe both should be able to be sorted, he probably couldn't be arsed to make them. __________________ Cheers Stefan "It is still a good day if you are on the green side of the grass! Su amigo Roberto!" Sponsor Lou in Race For Life!
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