Poseidon / Cis-Lunar Mk VI

**PhilSiswick** · 17th August 2007, 14:35

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field)

IMO unless you can dive it then its just "marketing"

I seem to recall several people where showing Rebreather components at DEMA last year, apparently unheard of ever since... why do they do this? You don't make any moeny claiming you have a rebreather, you just look a complete berk!

I'm happy with the current situation, as it's saving me money. 'We' have a Vision, but my wife hasn't done Mod 1 yet. She has had a fit of Swedish national solidarity (curious as she's really Peruvian) and wants a Cis Lunar 6 whenever they become available.

So, as long as it stays vapourware but Poseidon keep puffing it, no money needs to be found to fund Mod 1 or another unit and I can happily carry on as the only Rebreather diver in my household

.

Looking on the bright side,

**Freef** · 17th August 2007, 19:15

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field)

IMO unless you can dive it then its just "marketing"

Anyone remember the Trimix Dolphin?

I found a note about it in an old 9-90 the other month.

MatV · 17th August 2007, 21:59

Quote: (Originally Posted by rigdiver)

Looking forward to seeing this unit up and running again. It was an amazing piece of kit although just too pricey. Maybe Poseidon can get the cost mainstream.

Pricing is a downstream function. At least I hope that they learnt how to design a backplate/harness system and not come up with the crap they produced as new harness for the rebreather and anything else.

Where any weight on the back tensioned the belly straps via the shoulder straps, and the rucksack principle was completely abandoned.

Matthias

**Fun Under Pressure** · 18th August 2007, 13:30

Quote: (Originally Posted by MatV)

Pricing is a downstream function. At least I hope that they learnt how to design a backplate/harness system and not come up with the crap they produced as new harness for the rebreather and anything else.

Where any weight on the back tensioned the belly straps via the shoulder straps, and the rucksack principle was completely abandoned.

Matthias

BeeSea or so......! Iám very happy that i find a guy who buy mine. What a shit BC System.

Cheers Markku

Blomman · 19th August 2007, 11:15

Stone Aerospace - Smart Tools, Systems, and Vehicles for Exploring and Commercializing the Frontier

"The MK6 is limited to 200m operating depth....."

I wonder if they are referring to Posidon's new Rebreather or something else

// Blomman

DrJM · 19th August 2007, 14:32

Damned that's a bloody big rig to put on your back:

Blomman · 19th August 2007, 17:39

Nah, that's nothing for a Swedish viking. I'll take two in case I have to bail out ;-)

// Blomman

**Freef** · 19th August 2007, 18:46

Quote: (Originally Posted by DrJM)

Damned that's a bloody big rig to put on your back:

I take it the NASA sticker is required in case your Lithium Hydroxide scrubber leaks?

Red hoses will NEVER catch on though.

MatV · 19th August 2007, 19:22

Quote: (Originally Posted by rigdiver)

Looking forward to seeing this unit up and running again. It was an amazing piece of kit although just too pricey. Maybe Poseidon can get the cost mainstream.

I doubt that. Bill Stone mentioned a "briefcase size", and 3 hrs 60 duration, meant for cave/sump exploration with weight issues.

Poseidon already presented the harness, which borrowed the Interspiro Quick Release, and shows some design flaws, like no true rucksack pinciple, and the shoulderstraps are looped through to become belly straps, w/o any tension relief, so that weight distributes down to the stomach.
A simple SS clip would have helped here.
Furthermore, the quick release is offsets the load from the divers back.

Matthias

grazie42 · 29th August 2007, 06:56

They´ll be demoing it in a pool in sweden for a limited audience the week before DEMA so I´d expect it to be working at least...

17th August 2007, 14:35	#21 (permalink)
PhilSiswick WSKD 0001 Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 921	Re: Poseidon / Cis-Lunar Mk VI Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field) IMO unless you can dive it then its just "marketing" I seem to recall several people where showing Rebreather components at DEMA last year, apparently unheard of ever since... why do they do this? You don't make any moeny claiming you have a rebreather, you just look a complete berk! I'm happy with the current situation, as it's saving me money. 'We' have a Vision, but my wife hasn't done Mod 1 yet. She has had a fit of Swedish national solidarity (curious as she's really Peruvian) and wants a Cis Lunar 6 whenever they become available. So, as long as it stays vapourware but Poseidon keep puffing it, no money needs to be found to fund Mod 1 or another unit and I can happily carry on as the only Rebreather diver in my household . Looking on the bright side, __________________ Phil No comment on open circuit... it's an evolutionary dead end not really worth discussing here. Dave Sutton, 2007 I have always felt that the dive I am on is not nearly important as the dives I plan to be on the rest of my life. Tom Rose, 2007 www.hugsac.org.uk
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17th August 2007, 19:15	#22 (permalink)
Freef Custom Title Disallowed! Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Land of the Freef, UK. Posts: 1,356	Re: Poseidon / Cis-Lunar Mk VI Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field) IMO unless you can dive it then its just "marketing" Anyone remember the Trimix Dolphin? I found a note about it in an old 9-90 the other month. __________________ David. Currently owner of two differently sized ankles.
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17th August 2007, 21:59	#23 (permalink)
MatV New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Dolphin Ray Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Dolphin Ray Other SCR Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Germayn Posts: 15	Re: Poseidon / Cis-Lunar Mk VI Quote: (Originally Posted by rigdiver) Looking forward to seeing this unit up and running again. It was an amazing piece of kit although just too pricey. Maybe Poseidon can get the cost mainstream. Pricing is a downstream function. At least I hope that they learnt how to design a backplate/harness system and not come up with the crap they produced as new harness for the rebreather and anything else. Where any weight on the back tensioned the belly straps via the shoulder straps, and the rucksack principle was completely abandoned. Matthias
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18th August 2007, 13:30	#24 (permalink)
Fun Under Pressure Supporting Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 649	Re: Poseidon / Cis-Lunar Mk VI Quote: (Originally Posted by MatV) Pricing is a downstream function. At least I hope that they learnt how to design a backplate/harness system and not come up with the crap they produced as new harness for the rebreather and anything else. Where any weight on the back tensioned the belly straps via the shoulder straps, and the rucksack principle was completely abandoned. Matthias BeeSea or so......! Iám very happy that i find a guy who buy mine. What a shit BC System. Cheers Markku
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19th August 2007, 11:15	#25 (permalink)
Blomman Helium is addictive! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 152	Re: Poseidon / Cis-Lunar Mk VI Stone Aerospace - Smart Tools, Systems, and Vehicles for Exploring and Commercializing the Frontier "The MK6 is limited to 200m operating depth....." I wonder if they are referring to Posidon's new Rebreather or something else // Blomman
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19th August 2007, 14:32	#26 (permalink)
DrJM Deep Cave Explorer Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Join Date: May 2005 Location: France Posts: 344	Re: Poseidon / Cis-Lunar Mk VI Damned that's a bloody big rig to put on your back: __________________ www.snoopyloop.com Deep Cave Exploration
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19th August 2007, 17:39	#27 (permalink)
Blomman Helium is addictive! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 152	Re: Poseidon / Cis-Lunar Mk VI Nah, that's nothing for a Swedish viking. I'll take two in case I have to bail out ;-) // Blomman
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19th August 2007, 18:46	#28 (permalink)
Freef Custom Title Disallowed! Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Land of the Freef, UK. Posts: 1,356	Re: Poseidon / Cis-Lunar Mk VI Quote: (Originally Posted by DrJM) Damned that's a bloody big rig to put on your back: I take it the NASA sticker is required in case your Lithium Hydroxide scrubber leaks? Red hoses will NEVER catch on though. __________________ David. Currently owner of two differently sized ankles. Last edited by sadave : 29th August 2007 at 09:03. Reason: pic in quote......
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19th August 2007, 19:22	#29 (permalink)
MatV New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Dolphin Ray Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Dolphin Ray Other SCR Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Germayn Posts: 15	Re: Poseidon / Cis-Lunar Mk VI Quote: (Originally Posted by rigdiver) Looking forward to seeing this unit up and running again. It was an amazing piece of kit although just too pricey. Maybe Poseidon can get the cost mainstream. I doubt that. Bill Stone mentioned a "briefcase size", and 3 hrs 60 duration, meant for cave/sump exploration with weight issues. Poseidon already presented the harness, which borrowed the Interspiro Quick Release, and shows some design flaws, like no true rucksack pinciple, and the shoulderstraps are looped through to become belly straps, w/o any tension relief, so that weight distributes down to the stomach. A simple SS clip would have helped here. Furthermore, the quick release is offsets the load from the divers back. Matthias
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29th August 2007, 06:56	#30 (permalink)
grazie42 Eager Newbie! Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 29	Re: Poseidon / Cis-Lunar Mk VI They´ll be demoing it in a pool in sweden for a limited audience the week before DEMA so I´d expect it to be working at least...
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