Sentinel Upgrades

Peter M · 4th April 2008, 15:47

Quote: (Originally Posted by Darkwater)

To be really honest, its strings like this that stop me from posting a lot on the forum. Some seem to take great pleasure is posting negative narrow views on subjects they know little about.
This started as a simple update post to the forum.
We should all welcome new systems and technology and support those brave enough to venture into this difficult market place. Only through improvements and companies raising the bar will we as users get improved and better systems. Lets keep the comments constructive.

I've been diving an inspo. for over 10 years, 6 of which have been trimix. I've stepped out and gone for the Sentinel. Following a weeks diving I believe it was a very good decision, I think this unit far exceeds anything else I've dived. Most of the changes being made by Kevin are based on our comments as the first users, (to refine it) not because it does not work. this unit has probably undergone more beta testing by the likes of Phil than any other unit currently on the market.
As first time users, Kevin has given many free upgrades for thanks for our feedback and willingness to be the first customers.

On my return from the trip I wrote a detailed report on the unit and my thoughts - I had every intention of posting it until I read a few of the postings and to be honest I am not prepared to get uneducated flack for my efforts!

I hope you do post as i got info off a few people on the boat, so a detailed report will be of even more help to me, i know i missed a few comments about others would like changed .
I agree that Kevin did throw in a "few" extras and he was taking notes all week as to what we all wanted, this is now in evidence with the mods.

JWB · 14th April 2008, 11:36

Quote: (Originally Posted by Darkwater)

To be really honest, its strings like this that stop me from posting a lot on the forum. Some seem to take great pleasure is posting negative narrow views on subjects they know little about.
This started as a simple update post to the forum.
We should all welcome new systems and technology and support those brave enough to venture into this difficult market place. Only through improvements and companies raising the bar will we as users get improved and better systems. Lets keep the comments constructive.

I've been diving an inspo. for over 10 years, 6 of which have been trimix. I've stepped out and gone for the Sentinel. Following a weeks diving I believe it was a very good decision, I think this unit far exceeds anything else I've dived. Most of the changes being made by Kevin are based on our comments as the first users, (to refine it) not because it does not work. this unit has probably undergone more beta testing by the likes of Phil than any other unit currently on the market.
As first time users, Kevin has given many free upgrades for thanks for our feedback and willingness to be the first customers.

On my return from the trip I wrote a detailed report on the unit and my thoughts - I had every intention of posting it until I read a few of the postings and to be honest I am not prepared to get uneducated flack for my efforts!

Hi
I also would be very interested in what you have to say about this unit as I have been thinking for some time about which one to get, I had decided on a Inspiration with vision elec then the Sentinel came on the market and on paper looks to be better. Would be nice to see what you have to say having dived them both.
John

Ilikerisk · 14th April 2008, 14:39

Quote: (Originally Posted by JWB)

Hi
I also would be very interested in what you have to say about this unit as I have been thinking for some time about which one to get, I had decided on a Inspiration with vision elec then the Sentinel came on the market and on paper looks to be better. Would be nice to see what you have to say having dived them both.
John

I just want to echo the sentiment... As someone seriously considering a Sentinel, I find these user reports very valuable.

Dragan · 15th April 2008, 07:20

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ilikerisk)

I just want to echo the sentiment... As someone seriously considering a Sentinel, I find these user reports very valuable.

Add one more to the list of people eager to see the report. Please ignore discouraging posts and take in the cheers from people really interested in finding out about practical pros&cons.

Especially now that CCRB seem to have more important things to do than answering email from potential customers

, feedback from actual users are all that we can look forward to...

/Dragan

CCR-DIVER · 15th April 2008, 09:07

Hi guys,

i don´t know sentinel yet, but i´m ouroboros diver nº36 (2years), and i believe and trust 100% in Kevin equipment. i did lots off dives without problems , some off them more than 100mtrs.

i believe sentinel will be one off the best in market.

And if we think how many related fatal acidents with units.... (zero )

cheers

CCRHexe · 15th April 2008, 10:34

On my return from the trip I wrote a detailed report on the unit and my thoughts - I had every intention of posting it until I read a few of the postings and to be honest I am not prepared to get uneducated flack for my efforts!

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let us share your report. Ordered the Sentinel for later in the year and really looking for any useful information.

***Decodiver*** · 15th April 2008, 10:55

I'm sure you've seen the short post concerning my thoughts on the Sentinel, if not you can find it here guys:

http://www.rebreatherworld.com/rebre...completed.html

PM me if you have any questions or ask away in this thread.

Cheers,

Dave Cooper.

Dragan · 16th April 2008, 07:39

Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver)

<snipp>
PM me if you have any questions or ask away in this thread.

Cheers,

Dave Cooper.

I've been trying to get more info with regards to offboard gas for a while now. Does Sentinel handle offboard gas in the same way as Boris (except for the BOV)? The way I understood from a very quick Boris info, the Boris loop can be fed completely from offboard gas keeping the onboard supplies untouched until it is really needed.

Is BOV connected to "main circuit", i.e. can be fed from either on- or offboard gas?

Thx

/Dragan

Peter M · 16th April 2008, 09:36

Quote: (Originally Posted by CCR-DIVER)

Hi guys,

and i believe and trust 100% in Kevin equipment.

I second this, i spend a good part of yesterday with Al , Nick and Jason tracking down a problem (TPM and Secondary handset). They found it and fixed it and from what i believe other units will be getting an upgrade because of my problems.
I have seen the way they work and how hard they work to get it right.

Phil · 16th April 2008, 10:24

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dragan)

Is BOV connected to "main circuit", i.e. can be fed from either on- or offboard gas?

Hello Dragan,

The offboard will feed all system i.e. Manual Feed, ADV & BOV for DIL and Manual Feed & Solenoid for the O2 side.

The only issue with BOV is the fact that the Sentinel & Boris use QC4 Swagelok for offboard connection, which acts as a flow restrictor. The BOV is only to be used as a sanity breathe in other words 1-2 breathe before you switch to external bailout. You will have to experience the flow restriction at different depth, it obviously depends on the mix you are using.

On my Boris I am using Swagelok QC6 for the offboard, it has a bigger flow!

Cheers

4th April 2008, 15:47	#21 (permalink)
Peter M New Member Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 46	Re: Sentinel Upgrades Quote: (Originally Posted by Darkwater) To be really honest, its strings like this that stop me from posting a lot on the forum. Some seem to take great pleasure is posting negative narrow views on subjects they know little about. This started as a simple update post to the forum. We should all welcome new systems and technology and support those brave enough to venture into this difficult market place. Only through improvements and companies raising the bar will we as users get improved and better systems. Lets keep the comments constructive. I've been diving an inspo. for over 10 years, 6 of which have been trimix. I've stepped out and gone for the Sentinel. Following a weeks diving I believe it was a very good decision, I think this unit far exceeds anything else I've dived. Most of the changes being made by Kevin are based on our comments as the first users, (to refine it) not because it does not work. this unit has probably undergone more beta testing by the likes of Phil than any other unit currently on the market. As first time users, Kevin has given many free upgrades for thanks for our feedback and willingness to be the first customers. On my return from the trip I wrote a detailed report on the unit and my thoughts - I had every intention of posting it until I read a few of the postings and to be honest I am not prepared to get uneducated flack for my efforts! I hope you do post as i got info off a few people on the boat, so a detailed report will be of even more help to me, i know i missed a few comments about others would like changed . I agree that Kevin did throw in a "few" extras and he was taking notes all week as to what we all wanted, this is now in evidence with the mods.
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14th April 2008, 11:36	#22 (permalink)
JWB New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: London Posts: 3	Re: Sentinel Upgrades Quote: (Originally Posted by Darkwater) To be really honest, its strings like this that stop me from posting a lot on the forum. Some seem to take great pleasure is posting negative narrow views on subjects they know little about. This started as a simple update post to the forum. We should all welcome new systems and technology and support those brave enough to venture into this difficult market place. Only through improvements and companies raising the bar will we as users get improved and better systems. Lets keep the comments constructive. I've been diving an inspo. for over 10 years, 6 of which have been trimix. I've stepped out and gone for the Sentinel. Following a weeks diving I believe it was a very good decision, I think this unit far exceeds anything else I've dived. Most of the changes being made by Kevin are based on our comments as the first users, (to refine it) not because it does not work. this unit has probably undergone more beta testing by the likes of Phil than any other unit currently on the market. As first time users, Kevin has given many free upgrades for thanks for our feedback and willingness to be the first customers. On my return from the trip I wrote a detailed report on the unit and my thoughts - I had every intention of posting it until I read a few of the postings and to be honest I am not prepared to get uneducated flack for my efforts! Hi I also would be very interested in what you have to say about this unit as I have been thinking for some time about which one to get, I had decided on a Inspiration with vision elec then the Sentinel came on the market and on paper looks to be better. Would be nice to see what you have to say having dived them both. John
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14th April 2008, 14:39	#23 (permalink)
Ilikerisk New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New York Posts: 48	Re: Sentinel Upgrades Quote: (Originally Posted by JWB) Hi I also would be very interested in what you have to say about this unit as I have been thinking for some time about which one to get, I had decided on a Inspiration with vision elec then the Sentinel came on the market and on paper looks to be better. Would be nice to see what you have to say having dived them both. John I just want to echo the sentiment... As someone seriously considering a Sentinel, I find these user reports very valuable.
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15th April 2008, 07:20	#24 (permalink)
Dragan New Member Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Vasteras, Sweden Posts: 11	Re: Sentinel Upgrades Quote: (Originally Posted by Ilikerisk) I just want to echo the sentiment... As someone seriously considering a Sentinel, I find these user reports very valuable. Add one more to the list of people eager to see the report. Please ignore discouraging posts and take in the cheers from people really interested in finding out about practical pros&cons. Especially now that CCRB seem to have more important things to do than answering email from potential customers , feedback from actual users are all that we can look forward to... /Dragan __________________ "It is what we think we know already that often prevents us from learning." Claude Bernard {1813-1878, French Physiologist}
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15th April 2008, 09:07	#25 (permalink)
CCR-DIVER New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Portugal Posts: 73	Re: Sentinel Upgrades Hi guys, i don´t know sentinel yet, but i´m ouroboros diver nº36 (2years), and i believe and trust 100% in Kevin equipment. i did lots off dives without problems , some off them more than 100mtrs. i believe sentinel will be one off the best in market. And if we think how many related fatal acidents with units.... (zero ) cheers __________________ *José Marques* *www.in-silence.com*
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15th April 2008, 10:34	#26 (permalink)
CCRHexe New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: May 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 21	Re: Sentinel Upgrades On my return from the trip I wrote a detailed report on the unit and my thoughts - I had every intention of posting it until I read a few of the postings and to be honest I am not prepared to get uneducated flack for my efforts! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let us share your report. Ordered the Sentinel for later in the year and really looking for any useful information. __________________ CCRHexe *** Simply addicted..
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15th April 2008, 10:55	#27 (permalink)
*Decodiver* Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Ouroboros rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Sport Kiss Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 2,168	Re: Sentinel Upgrades I'm sure you've seen the short post concerning my thoughts on the Sentinel, if not you can find it here guys: http://www.rebreatherworld.com/rebre...completed.html PM me if you have any questions or ask away in this thread. Cheers, Dave Cooper. __________________ CCR/OC Trimix Instructor Trainer CCR Training to Mixed Gas in Switzerland, France, UK & Germany on Megalodon/COPIS-Megalodon/KISS/Sport KISS/Ouroboros/rEvo/Inspiration/Evolution/Sentinel www.zerogravitydiving.com Rebreather World Terms & Conditions
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16th April 2008, 07:39	#28 (permalink)
Dragan New Member Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Vasteras, Sweden Posts: 11	Re: Sentinel Upgrades Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver) <snipp> PM me if you have any questions or ask away in this thread. Cheers, Dave Cooper. I've been trying to get more info with regards to offboard gas for a while now. Does Sentinel handle offboard gas in the same way as Boris (except for the BOV)? The way I understood from a very quick Boris info, the Boris loop can be fed completely from offboard gas keeping the onboard supplies untouched until it is really needed. Is BOV connected to "main circuit", i.e. can be fed from either on- or offboard gas? Thx /Dragan __________________ "It is what we think we know already that often prevents us from learning." Claude Bernard {1813-1878, French Physiologist}
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16th April 2008, 09:36	#29 (permalink)
Peter M New Member Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 46	Re: Sentinel Upgrades Quote: (Originally Posted by CCR-DIVER) Hi guys, and i believe and trust 100% in Kevin equipment. I second this, i spend a good part of yesterday with Al , Nick and Jason tracking down a problem (TPM and Secondary handset). They found it and fixed it and from what i believe other units will be getting an upgrade because of my problems. I have seen the way they work and how hard they work to get it right.
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16th April 2008, 10:24	#30 (permalink)
Phil Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Ouroboros rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon rEvo Other CCR Join Date: May 2005 Location: Geneva-Switzerland Posts: 170	Re: Sentinel Upgrades Quote: (Originally Posted by Dragan) Is BOV connected to "main circuit", i.e. can be fed from either on- or offboard gas? Hello Dragan, The offboard will feed all system i.e. Manual Feed, ADV & BOV for DIL and Manual Feed & Solenoid for the O2 side. The only issue with BOV is the fact that the Sentinel & Boris use QC4 Swagelok for offboard connection, which acts as a flow restrictor. The BOV is only to be used as a sanity breathe in other words 1-2 breathe before you switch to external bailout. You will have to experience the flow restriction at different depth, it obviously depends on the mix you are using. On my Boris I am using Swagelok QC6 for the offboard, it has a bigger flow! Cheers __________________ Phil __________________ CCR/OC Instructor CCR Training to Mixed Gas in Switzerland, France, UK & Germany on Megalodon/KISS/Ouroboros/rEvo/Inspiration/Evolution/Sentinel www.zerogravitydiving.com
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