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Old 8th February 2008, 17:58   #11 (permalink)
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Re: Sentinel VS Inspiration

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Well the Sentinel fan club is certainly out in force tonight...

I suppose you just have to balance it against buying life support equipment that hasn't even been released yet so you're the crash-test-dummy.


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Old 8th February 2008, 22:04   #12 (permalink)
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Re: Sentinel VS Inspiration

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I suppose you just have to balance it against buying life support equipment that hasn't even been released yet so you're the crash-test-dummy.

Same as the first Inspiration users...

At least those two units had to pass some heavy tests, beside the manned dives.
If I did choose the Sentinel is because I own an Ouroboros and I'm very happy with the solutions the factory builded in the unit. Second, I like to have the chest free. Why I did buy a Sentinel? Easy to travel with.

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Old 9th February 2008, 08:24   #13 (permalink)
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Re: Sentinel VS Inspiration

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Same as the first Inspiration users...
Definitely. I know some of them and discovering things that we now get in the manual must have been fun.

I just find it disturbing that people are recommending as a 'first rebreather' something that does not have any track record yet.
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Old 9th February 2008, 08:26   #14 (permalink)
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Re: Sentinel VS Inspiration

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Definitely. I know some of them and discovering things that we now get in the manual must have been fun.

I just find it disturbing that people are recommending as a 'first rebreather' something that does not have any track record yet.
Ditto. "The second mouse gets the cheese" as someone has on their signature.

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Old 9th February 2008, 09:29   #15 (permalink)
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Re: Sentinel VS Inspiration

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Definitely. I know some of them and discovering things that we now get in the manual must have been fun.

I just find it disturbing that people are recommending as a 'first rebreather' something that does not have any track record yet.

this is true and do agree, although surely with the Ouroborous behind it, surely this will form a good basis, rather than a COMPLETELY unknown Rebreather? i would have said the real crash test dummies were the Boris users.

but after diving the inspo, again in my very limited exp, i would never part with that sort of cash for that unit.
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Re: Sentinel VS Inspiration

I am very new to the re-breather way of life and i have had to make some very tough decisions as this is a lot of cash to part with along with new skills to learn, but what would make a good first re-breather and to continually use ?

i have spoke to many people (maybe not enough) and i find that everyone has their own personal choice, i agree the Sentinel is new but i do also believe that CCRB has done 4 years R&D for this unit, I also believe that AP have done massive amounts of R&D as well as the users over time, so what is best? Can we please all of the people all of the time ?

I have to live with my choice now and i do think i have made a good one but only time will tell.

This question could be answered by asking is my Inspiration better than the others out there ?

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I have to live with my choice now and i do think i have made a good one but only time will tell.

This question could be answered by asking is my Inspiration better than the others out there ?
i am positive that the choice you have made wasnt a rushed one and you made it on good judgement and therefore will be the best choice for you. as we know not one thing is perfect for the masses. this world is full of choices which i am grateful for. so whether your inspiration is better than others out there? well for you it will be as you decided to buy it based on sound judgment. i dont see the problem with people owning different units, all have good points and all will have bad points, i guess its a matter of what you are happy putting up with in exchange for benefits.

as i was told by someone else...

" don't blame you for asking the question about which unit to buy, but, it really doesn't matter which unit you end up with. Next year there will be a newer and better one out there, and the same thing the year after that. Same problem with laptops, etc. Just get a unit that you can afford and that you can get serviced. Dive it, dive it, and enjoy life. Truthfully, they're all pretty good units. I'm sure everyone on this list feels the same way about their RBs."

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Re: Sentinel VS Inspiration

Hi,

I'm not very experienced in rebreathers (I dive with rebreathers since 2006), but I know a lot about electronic and software. I have worked the last 20 years for american companies, selling high security HA storage systems with HA sofwares. There is one thing I know: a new system is always a big risk. Furthermore, you cannot compare companies, spending millions of dollars with hundreds of high level people, to develop a system and then producing it to thousands of units and some guys having big fun and developing a rebreather. Just to make a long story short: you will have bugs and problems on every new machine. Believe me I had some very hard problems to fix, with machines having a unit selling price of millions of dollars...

After trying to have a normal business relationship with CCR I can only say: this guys are quiet strange... I finally decided to stay with THE standard: an Inspiration... In the futur, if they become more normal at CCR, then I will reconsider my decision.

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Hi,

I'm not very experienced in rebreathers (I dive with rebreathers since 2006), but I know a lot about electronic and software. I have worked the last 20 years for american companies, selling high security HA storage systems with HA sofwares. There is one thing I know: a new system is always a big risk. Furthermore, you cannot compare companies, spending millions of dollars with hundreds of high level people, to develop a system and then producing it to thousands of units and some guys having big fun and developing a rebreather. Just to make a long story short: you will have bugs and problems on every new machine. Believe me I had some very hard problems to fix, with machines having a unit selling price of millions of dollars...

After trying to have a normal business relationship with CCR I can only say: this guys are quiet strange... I finally decided to stay with THE standard: an Inspiration... In the futur, if they become more normal at CCR, then I will reconsider my decision.

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Yes, but the Sentinel software as the Ouroboros one before came from the VR3, so...not really something invented during the last month.

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Re: Sentinel VS Inspiration

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Call me old fashioned but those 2 big 7ltr's each over the shoulder counterlungs on the inspo that everyone seems to slag do have some good potential ususes, just ask the kiss owners



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