Photos of Sentinel Rebreather

***schford*** · 17th September 2007, 12:47

Quote: (Originally Posted by richc)

Erm, I want to see how you rest it on a bench or kit up in it. It looks to me like it'll rest on the first stages of the Xtremes and be at around 45 degrees. Interesting.

Personally, I'm confident that Kev knows what he's doing however and am sure it'll be good in the water. Does it have shut offs like the Boris? I'm presuming not from the photos and layout which is a shame.

Cheers

Rich

As per my write up there is an extendable foot (not shown on protype) tha tyou set to the height you want. I think shutoffs will be on level3.

Stuart

CCR900 · 17th September 2007, 15:15

The depth of the unit looks a little too much, given it seems to do with the size of the scubber it will be hard to remedy without reducing capicity....There seems to be a lid too so it must be like wearing a small house (think Boris prototype).

One thing that gets me though is after hearing so many comments on CCRB's dislike of OC/DSV's (all eggs in one basic theory) it surprises me that one takes pride of place on the Sentinel, and to make it worse its huge, that will give you seroius jaw ache.

Nice hand sets, hop ethey are as bullet proof as the originals...

Rgds

Fil

diverklondike · 17th September 2007, 15:38

Ohhhhhh what a fickle bunch we are... We want as much information as possible as quickly as possible and then quickly jump the gun when it's said "this is only a prototype".... Couple observations from my side....

1) Glad to see a unit with scrubber options that is being designed that way from the start! MicroPore, Sorb etc

2) Nice to see Kevin addressing the BOV issue. I am sure that it will be a quality unit once finalized.

3) BMCL - Great to see a new unit out there with then designed from the start.

4) New electronics footprint looks great...

5) Great to see all of the above in one package!!!

For those of you that have seen some of the early pictures prototype pictures of the Boris, you will remember that Kevin did a fair amount of tweaking until releasing the final product. I would expect the same with this new rig.

Dive Safe...

Mark

**Dave Sutton** · 17th September 2007, 15:53

Quote: (Originally Posted by schford)

Also shows where you recharge the lithium batteries - currently this is a fischer but this will change.

So, uhhh..... on a multiday boat trip, I either need to bring the rig inside the cabin to charge it, or run an extension cord outside (into the salty-rain)? Or un-wrangle all of the attached cords and drag the electronics pod into the cabin to charge?

I must be missing something here....

But, as Mark so well points out, it's a prototype, so all bets are off.

Dave

Ben Field · 17th September 2007, 15:55

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton)

So, uhhh..... on a multiday boat trip, I either need to bring the rig inside the cabin to charge it, or run an extension cord outside (into the salty-rain)? Or un-wrangle all of the attached cords and drag the electronics pod into the cabin to charge?

I must be missing something here....

But, as Mark so well points out, it's a prototype, so all bets are off.

Dave

Good point, I'm SURE it'll be detachable in some way, or maybe it comes with a Solar cell charger (for those zero carbon footprint types)

zoo_diver · 17th September 2007, 15:57

DId I miss something....why are the cylinders different sizes and not balanced with eachother? I'ma go back and read the write-up again. Thank you for the pictures. It's nice to see folks out there trying to come up with the next best thing.

***schford*** · 17th September 2007, 15:58

Well I dont know but playing devils adovcate - maybe it handles a multi day trip just fine!

Or more likely the head is probably detachablke like most breathers...

CCR900 · 17th September 2007, 15:58

Mark

Fickle....you mean constructive critism....

AP Diving too spent a long while developing the Evolution but avoided showing prototypes, probably thinking "critisise this and not the one I didn't make".

I know the Boris well and respect its qaulity of construction (still hate the hose locking rings though) and well thought out design.

I am sure Mr. Kevin has thick enough skin to bear a few non positive comments, I still would like to see if the OC/DSV appears on the Sentinel's big brother, it would be a bit of a turn around IMO....

F

CCR900 · 17th September 2007, 16:00

Quote: (Originally Posted by zoo_diver)

DId I miss something....why are the cylinders different sizes and not balanced with eachother? I'ma go back and read the write-up again. Thank you for the pictures. It's nice to see folks out there trying to come up with the next best thing.

You tend to need more dil than O2, the bottle size won't affect your position much and if it did then shift the weight around on your belt :-)

Fil

Jon Adams · 17th September 2007, 16:04

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton)

So, uhhh..... on a multiday boat trip, I either need to bring the rig inside the cabin to charge it, or run an extension cord outside (into the salty-rain)? Or un-wrangle all of the attached cords and drag the electronics pod into the cabin to charge?

I must be missing something here....

But, as Mark so well points out, it's a prototype, so all bets are off.

Dave

No need Dave if the batteries are the same as in my ouroboros pod no need to worry just returned from 2 channel dives

over 3 days and batteries showed no signs of needing recharging.

ja

17th September 2007, 12:47	#11 (permalink)
*schford* Despotic Overlord Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,562	Re: Photos of Sentinel Rebreather Quote: (Originally Posted by richc) Erm, I want to see how you rest it on a bench or kit up in it. It looks to me like it'll rest on the first stages of the Xtremes and be at around 45 degrees. Interesting. Personally, I'm confident that Kev knows what he's doing however and am sure it'll be good in the water. Does it have shut offs like the Boris? I'm presuming not from the photos and layout which is a shame. Cheers Rich As per my write up there is an extendable foot (not shown on protype) tha tyou set to the height you want. I think shutoffs will be on level3. Stuart __________________ Bailout and Kit Management account for Murphy's Law The only bad question is one you did not ask and later wish you had. Use of Rebreather World is subject to the Rebreather World Terms & Conditions of Use
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17th September 2007, 15:15	#12 (permalink)
CCR900 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: England Posts: 332	Re: Photos of Sentinel Rebreather The depth of the unit looks a little too much, given it seems to do with the size of the scubber it will be hard to remedy without reducing capicity....There seems to be a lid too so it must be like wearing a small house (think Boris prototype). One thing that gets me though is after hearing so many comments on CCRB's dislike of OC/DSV's (all eggs in one basic theory) it surprises me that one takes pride of place on the Sentinel, and to make it worse its huge, that will give you seroius jaw ache. Nice hand sets, hop ethey are as bullet proof as the originals... Rgds Fil Last edited by CCR900 : 17th September 2007 at 15:23.
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17th September 2007, 15:38	#13 (permalink)
diverklondike Just one of the Peasants Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,613	Re: Photos of Sentinel Rebreather Ohhhhhh what a fickle bunch we are... We want as much information as possible as quickly as possible and then quickly jump the gun when it's said "this is only a prototype".... Couple observations from my side.... 1) Glad to see a unit with scrubber options that is being designed that way from the start! MicroPore, Sorb etc 2) Nice to see Kevin addressing the BOV issue. I am sure that it will be a quality unit once finalized. 3) BMCL - Great to see a new unit out there with then designed from the start. 4) New electronics footprint looks great... 5) Great to see all of the above in one package!!! For those of you that have seen some of the early pictures prototype pictures of the Boris, you will remember that Kevin did a fair amount of tweaking until releasing the final product. I would expect the same with this new rig. Dive Safe... Mark
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17th September 2007, 15:53	#14 (permalink)
Dave Sutton Diveshop of Horrors Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island and Hackettstown, New Jersey Posts: 2,672	Re: Photos of Sentinel Rebreather Quote: (Originally Posted by schford) Also shows where you recharge the lithium batteries - currently this is a fischer but this will change. So, uhhh..... on a multiday boat trip, I either need to bring the rig inside the cabin to charge it, or run an extension cord outside (into the salty-rain)? Or un-wrangle all of the attached cords and drag the electronics pod into the cabin to charge? I must be missing something here.... But, as Mark so well points out, it's a prototype, so all bets are off. Dave __________________ "Changes in Lattitudes, Changes in Attitudes, Nothing remains quite the same".... www.nobubblediving.com
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17th September 2007, 15:55	#15 (permalink)
Ben Field CK+Shearwater Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 1,621	Re: Photos of Sentinel Rebreather Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton) So, uhhh..... on a multiday boat trip, I either need to bring the rig inside the cabin to charge it, or run an extension cord outside (into the salty-rain)? Or un-wrangle all of the attached cords and drag the electronics pod into the cabin to charge? I must be missing something here.... But, as Mark so well points out, it's a prototype, so all bets are off. Dave Good point, I'm SURE it'll be detachable in some way, or maybe it comes with a Solar cell charger (for those zero carbon footprint types) __________________ Know your PPO2, Pre-breath, Use checklists, Validate cells at 6mtrs, Use pure O2 at or near surface, Use a BOV, Don't dive Solo, Change Slime and Cells as recommended by Manufacturer and RTFM! Beware Fridge Suck! www.hugsac.org.uk
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17th September 2007, 15:57	#16 (permalink)
zoo_diver Is it snack time yet? Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Suffolk, VA Posts: 259	Re: Photos of Sentinel Rebreather DId I miss something....why are the cylinders different sizes and not balanced with eachother? I'ma go back and read the write-up again. Thank you for the pictures. It's nice to see folks out there trying to come up with the next best thing.
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17th September 2007, 15:58	#17 (permalink)
*schford* Despotic Overlord Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,562	Re: Photos of Sentinel Rebreather Well I dont know but playing devils adovcate - maybe it handles a multi day trip just fine! Or more likely the head is probably detachablke like most breathers... __________________ Bailout and Kit Management account for Murphy's Law The only bad question is one you did not ask and later wish you had. Use of Rebreather World is subject to the Rebreather World Terms & Conditions of Use
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17th September 2007, 15:58	#18 (permalink)
CCR900 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: England Posts: 332	Re: Photos of Sentinel Rebreather Mark Fickle....you mean constructive critism.... AP Diving too spent a long while developing the Evolution but avoided showing prototypes, probably thinking "critisise this and not the one I didn't make". I know the Boris well and respect its qaulity of construction (still hate the hose locking rings though) and well thought out design. I am sure Mr. Kevin has thick enough skin to bear a few non positive comments, I still would like to see if the OC/DSV appears on the Sentinel's big brother, it would be a bit of a turn around IMO.... F
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17th September 2007, 16:00	#19 (permalink)
CCR900 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: England Posts: 332	Re: Photos of Sentinel Rebreather Quote: (Originally Posted by zoo_diver) DId I miss something....why are the cylinders different sizes and not balanced with eachother? I'ma go back and read the write-up again. Thank you for the pictures. It's nice to see folks out there trying to come up with the next best thing. You tend to need more dil than O2, the bottle size won't affect your position much and if it did then shift the weight around on your belt :-) Fil
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17th September 2007, 16:04	#20 (permalink)
Jon Adams New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic MK 15.X Ouroboros Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 37	Re: Photos of Sentinel Rebreather Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton) So, uhhh..... on a multiday boat trip, I either need to bring the rig inside the cabin to charge it, or run an extension cord outside (into the salty-rain)? Or un-wrangle all of the attached cords and drag the electronics pod into the cabin to charge? I must be missing something here.... But, as Mark so well points out, it's a prototype, so all bets are off. Dave No need Dave if the batteries are the same as in my ouroboros pod no need to worry just returned from 2 channel dives over 3 days and batteries showed no signs of needing recharging. ja
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