Dräger mouthpiece

AMW · 1st February 2006, 14:11

Dräger mouthpiece

Dose any one know were I can get a longer mouthpiece gate lever for a Dräger Dolphin ? The standard one is a bit short for cold hands in thick gloves.
Andrew

JasonF · 2nd February 2006, 05:02

Quote: (Originally Posted by AMW)

Dräger mouthpiece

Dose any one know were I can get a longer mouthpiece gate lever for a Dräger Dolphin ? The standard one is a bit short for cold hands in thick gloves.
Andrew

Hi Andrew!

Real quick, I don't know of anyone making longer gate levers for the Dolphin,

However I have a few suggestions if your finding it difficult to operate with thick gloves;

Some times the DSV becomes very sticky/stiff and the DSV just needs to be disassembled, cleaned and re-lubricated. Here is what I use to do when I dove the Dolphin

Disassembly
Remove hoses and check valves from DSV
If you open the DSV and look into it you should see a flat headed screw. While pushing in on the gate lever, take a flat bladed screw driver and unscrew the screw (NOTE- make sure you unscrew the screw and NOT the other way around; holding the screw with the screwdriver and using your fingers to unscrew the gate lever, You WILL DESTROY the gasket below the gate lever if you do it the wrong way!)

Once the screw is un screwed, remove it, the gasket and the gate lever.

look at the DSV through the inhale or exhale side and you should notice a gold barrel inside the DSV. This needs to come out, push it out using you fingers (Don't use a hammer

) Once you push out the barrel the DSV is now completely disassembled and ready for cleaning:

DO NOT REMOVE the BLUE "H" style o-ring on the gold barrel.
Thoroughly clean all of the gross parts in warm soapy water (use a tooth brush). Once cleaned, dry off.

Reassembly:
Using O2 lubricant thoroughly cover the outside of the brass barrel where the Blue O-Ring is and in between.

slide the barrel back into the DSV (it should slide in much easier then it came out)

Put the screw in through the hole, slide the gasket back on (NOTE: If the gasket is damaged through it out and replace with new, I've seen to many leaks in that area from diver's not taking care of them properly)

Start putting the gate lever back on, once you get it within 3-4 threads of being tight, push in on the gate lever to keep the gasket from being spun around and damaged and use the screwdriver to tighten the rest of the way. Do not over tighten it!

You should notice a huge difference in the ease of operation! Even with the thick gloves!

Good luck and let me know if this helps

divetheworld · 2nd February 2006, 06:33

Quote: (Originally Posted by AMW)

Dräger mouthpiece

Dose any one know were I can get a longer mouthpiece gate lever for a Dräger Dolphin ? The standard one is a bit short for cold hands in thick gloves.
Andrew

Contact John from www.narkedat90.co.uk , he can make a custom one for you. For a price!

Brent

AMW · 2nd February 2006, 09:55

Thank you for the replies I have striped the mouthpiece and clean it (worth another go)

I will also drop a line to John.

Andrew.

Toren · 3rd February 2006, 18:56

Stripping and relubing my ADV worked a treat. It was stiff as a starfish before and hard to work in thick gloves, now it's slick as you please.

narked at 90 · 3rd February 2006, 20:49

hi every one im making a new longer dsv knob does any one want a slighty longer one wile in at it?
kindest regards john routley
www.narkedat90.co.uk

thanks brent for the heads up

denzel · 4th February 2006, 13:28

C'mon John,

Which guy wouldn't want a longer knob?

I reckon you should have an anonimous ordering system though.

denz.

PS BTW I'm quite happy the way it is.

narked at 90 · 4th February 2006, 14:53

left my self open to that one Denz

any how it's not how big it is but how much lube you put on it

Quote: (Originally Posted by denzel)

C'mon John,

Which guy wouldn't want a longer knob?

I reckon you should have an anonimous ordering system though.

denz.

PS BTW I'm quite happy the way it is.

divetheworld · 4th February 2006, 22:58

Quote: (Originally Posted by narked at 90)

hi every one im making a new longer dsv knob does any one want a slighty longer one wile in at it?
kindest regards john routley
www.narkedat90.co.uk

thanks brent for the heads up

I'll have one for my buddy. (Retail).

Ta.

Brent

JasonF · 5th February 2006, 17:45

Quote: (Originally Posted by Toren)

Stripping and relubing my ADV worked a treat. It was stiff as a starfish before and hard to work in thick gloves, now it's slick as you please.

Toren,

I glad that solution worked for you. Were my instructions clear? Did you see what I was refering to on reassembly with the rubber gasket?

Cheers,

1st February 2006, 14:11	#1 (permalink)
AMW Technical caver Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cam ,Glos, England Posts: 170	Dräger mouthpiece Dräger mouthpiece Dose any one know were I can get a longer mouthpiece gate lever for a Dräger Dolphin ? The standard one is a bit short for cold hands in thick gloves. Andrew __________________ AMW Blog (very poor effort :-) http://a-m-ward.blogspot.com/ http://amward.myblogsite.com/ Lot ,France cave diving sites and area resources. www.lot46.com Caving and cave diving photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/amward/
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JasonF New Member Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NORTHEAST USA Posts: 27	Re: Dräger mouthpiece Quote: (Originally Posted by AMW) Dräger mouthpiece Dose any one know were I can get a longer mouthpiece gate lever for a Dräger Dolphin ? The standard one is a bit short for cold hands in thick gloves. Andrew Hi Andrew! Real quick, I don't know of anyone making longer gate levers for the Dolphin, However I have a few suggestions if your finding it difficult to operate with thick gloves; Some times the DSV becomes very sticky/stiff and the DSV just needs to be disassembled, cleaned and re-lubricated. Here is what I use to do when I dove the Dolphin Disassembly Remove hoses and check valves from DSV If you open the DSV and look into it you should see a flat headed screw. While pushing in on the gate lever, take a flat bladed screw driver and unscrew the screw (NOTE- make sure you unscrew the screw and NOT the other way around; holding the screw with the screwdriver and using your fingers to unscrew the gate lever, You WILL DESTROY the gasket below the gate lever if you do it the wrong way!) Once the screw is un screwed, remove it, the gasket and the gate lever. look at the DSV through the inhale or exhale side and you should notice a gold barrel inside the DSV. This needs to come out, push it out using you fingers (Don't use a hammer ) Once you push out the barrel the DSV is now completely disassembled and ready for cleaning: DO NOT REMOVE the BLUE "H" style o-ring on the gold barrel. Thoroughly clean all of the gross parts in warm soapy water (use a tooth brush). Once cleaned, dry off. Reassembly: Using O2 lubricant thoroughly cover the outside of the brass barrel where the Blue O-Ring is and in between. slide the barrel back into the DSV (it should slide in much easier then it came out) Put the screw in through the hole, slide the gasket back on (NOTE: If the gasket is damaged through it out and replace with new, I've seen to many leaks in that area from diver's not taking care of them properly) Start putting the gate lever back on, once you get it within 3-4 threads of being tight, push in on the gate lever to keep the gasket from being spun around and damaged and use the screwdriver to tighten the rest of the way. Do not over tighten it! You should notice a huge difference in the ease of operation! Even with the thick gloves! Good luck and let me know if this helps __________________ Jason R. Fisch Training Director The SCUBA Connection Instructor Development and Diver Training Division jasonf@tscscuba.com
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divetheworld Dive porn pimp Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Classic Kiss Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Leeds, England Posts: 1,547	Re: Dräger mouthpiece Quote: (Originally Posted by AMW) Dräger mouthpiece Dose any one know were I can get a longer mouthpiece gate lever for a Dräger Dolphin ? The standard one is a bit short for cold hands in thick gloves. Andrew Contact John from www.narkedat90.co.uk , he can make a custom one for you. For a price! Brent __________________ Self praise is no reccomendation. Dont try to be a great man, just be a man and let history be the judge of you. CHECK OUT OUR INTERWEBS FOR CUSTOM REBREATHER UPGRADES *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *http://www.grpservices.com/pursuit/* Supporting Shearwater Research Products in Europe
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AMW Technical caver Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cam ,Glos, England Posts: 170	Re: Dräger mouthpiece Thank you for the replies I have striped the mouthpiece and clean it (worth another go) I will also drop a line to John. Andrew. __________________ AMW Blog (very poor effort :-) http://a-m-ward.blogspot.com/ http://amward.myblogsite.com/ Lot ,France cave diving sites and area resources. www.lot46.com Caving and cave diving photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/amward/
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Toren In Rebreather holding pattern... Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SF, CA Posts: 114	Re: Dräger mouthpiece Stripping and relubing my ADV worked a treat. It was stiff as a starfish before and hard to work in thick gloves, now it's slick as you please.
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narked at 90 In my own little world Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Classic Kiss Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: middlands uk Posts: 1,004	Re: Dräger mouthpiece hi every one im making a new longer dsv knob does any one want a slighty longer one wile in at it? kindest regards john routley www.narkedat90.co.uk thanks brent for the heads up __________________ CHECK OUT OUR INTERWEBS FOR CUSTOM REBREATHER UPGRADES *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *WWW.GRPSERVICES.COM*
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denzel Holiday diver Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Perth! Posts: 358	Re: Dräger mouthpiece C'mon John, Which guy wouldn't want a longer knob? I reckon you should have an anonimous ordering system though. denz. PS BTW I'm quite happy the way it is. __________________ My deepest so far, 558.50 mtr, my rig a LF90D...
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narked at 90 In my own little world Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Classic Kiss Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: middlands uk Posts: 1,004	Re: Dräger mouthpiece left my self open to that one Denz any how it's not how big it is but how much lube you put on it Quote: (Originally Posted by denzel) C'mon John, Which guy wouldn't want a longer knob? I reckon you should have an anonimous ordering system though. denz. PS BTW I'm quite happy the way it is. __________________ CHECK OUT OUR INTERWEBS FOR CUSTOM REBREATHER UPGRADES *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *WWW.GRPSERVICES.COM*
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divetheworld Dive porn pimp Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Classic Kiss Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Leeds, England Posts: 1,547	Re: Dräger mouthpiece Quote: (Originally Posted by narked at 90) hi every one im making a new longer dsv knob does any one want a slighty longer one wile in at it? kindest regards john routley www.narkedat90.co.uk thanks brent for the heads up I'll have one for my buddy. (Retail). Ta. Brent __________________ Self praise is no reccomendation. Dont try to be a great man, just be a man and let history be the judge of you. CHECK OUT OUR INTERWEBS FOR CUSTOM REBREATHER UPGRADES *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *http://www.grpservices.com/pursuit/* Supporting Shearwater Research Products in Europe
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JasonF New Member Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NORTHEAST USA Posts: 27	Re: Dräger mouthpiece Quote: (Originally Posted by Toren) Stripping and relubing my ADV worked a treat. It was stiff as a starfish before and hard to work in thick gloves, now it's slick as you please. Toren, I glad that solution worked for you. Were my instructions clear? Did you see what I was refering to on reassembly with the rubber gasket? Cheers, __________________ Jason R. Fisch Training Director The SCUBA Connection Instructor Development and Diver Training Division jasonf@tscscuba.com
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