Standard Draeger Shell unwanted in UK?

Smudgegs · 4th January 2008, 15:47

Ok forgive me, I know this isn't the for sale / wanted section... but I know lots of you guys read this section more

My Draeger shell has the slot for passing through the dosage device hoses on the lh side only... for the way my set/bc is configured this is a pita as I'd like to swap the main cylinder valve to the right and run the pony on the left...

So...

Does anyone in the uk have a spare shell lying around with the slot on the right hand side (as you wear it) or on both sides?
If you don't want it can I have it!?

Cheers

Smudge

**Freef** · 5th January 2008, 00:35

There should be space to pass the hoses between the wing and shell at the bottom corners. I don't use the slot at all.

Hows the vO2???

Smudgegs · 5th January 2008, 10:46

Ahhh, hadn't thought of that! Cheers for the useful reply as always!

Now... the VO2... yeah well... I had a bit of a "Homer" moment when we were loading the kit on the boat on Thursday.... and, erm.. my computer had fallen under the seat in the car, so I found myself on the boat with no computer,

Fortunately my buddy had a depth gauge/timer so I went back to the way I was taught on the course and dove it standard... and watched *closely* by my buddy!

so I don't know what my VO2 was on the dives

I'll try to remember my computer next time though(!) once this cold clears anyway

Nice dives though, we went out with Malcolm of Loch Fyne charters (Fyne Diving?) on his boat Little Blue and although the side of the loch with the wrecks in was weathered out we had a couple of very good scenics with 6m++ viz (good given recent weather!). Good enough to keep two committed rust monkeys down for 50 minutes! Every time I've dived Loch Fyne the life has been way larger and more prolific than the other sea lochs I've dived. Worth a look if you like fish bothering / photography.

edited to add, Had a quick look at the shell again David, do you mean the bottom corners under the waistbelt "wings", or above them? Seems (without trying it out) awfully tight above the waistbelt and I'm not sure I've got long enough hoses to go under it? Do you have any pics of that part of your setup?
Thanks again,
Smudge

**Freef** · 5th January 2008, 19:19

There you go.

I have my HP hose on a swivel which helps.

Smudgegs · 5th January 2008, 19:38

Cheers for those, I shall have a play and a couple of dry builds later I think

I see you have the black wing (European?) is it any better than the blue one? (ie the one with no lift

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**Freef** · 5th January 2008, 22:44

The black wing is made by AP Valves, knwon for their high lift BCD's that have valves that stop water ingress when you use the pull dumps.

Unfortunately these features are lacking on the one they fit to the Dolphin.

And the harness is crap too.

Smudgegs · 5th January 2008, 23:01

Quote: (Originally Posted by Freef)

The black wing is made by AP Valves, knwon for their high lift BCD's that have valves that stop water ingress when you use the pull dumps.

Unfortunately these features are lacking on the one they fit to the Dolphin.

And the harness is crap too.

pmsl, you almost cost me another keyboard there

That'll be just like the blue one then!!

Incidentally, my regular buddy (Natts the Dive Tart) is seriously considering getting a Dolph, but he is of erm... more "robust" proportions

have you ever seen a L or better yet XL dolphin stab jacket?

Mine is marked Medium so I imagine there must be some somewhere... but all the ones at the school I trained at were med so I don't know if AP just said "stuff it it's crap anyway, just bang 'em all out the same size", ..and it's certainly too small for the Dive Tart!

**Freef** · 6th January 2008, 12:32

I'm 5'10" 12½ stone and the black wing is big on me-I had to tighten it a lot to get a good fit [in a drysuit].

4th January 2008, 15:47	#1 (permalink)
Smudgegs Divetart Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 125	Standard Draeger Shell unwanted in UK? Ok forgive me, I know this isn't the for sale / wanted section... but I know lots of you guys read this section more My Draeger shell has the slot for passing through the dosage device hoses on the lh side only... for the way my set/bc is configured this is a pita as I'd like to swap the main cylinder valve to the right and run the pony on the left... So... Does anyone in the uk have a spare shell lying around with the slot on the right hand side (as you wear it) or on both sides? If you don't want it can I have it!? Cheers Smudge
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5th January 2008, 00:35	#2 (permalink)
Freef Custom Title Disallowed! Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Land of the Freef, UK. Posts: 1,405	Re: Standard Draeger Shell unwanted in UK? There should be space to pass the hoses between the wing and shell at the bottom corners. I don't use the slot at all. Hows the vO2??? __________________ David. Diving the mahogany rebreather.
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5th January 2008, 10:46	#3 (permalink)
Smudgegs Divetart Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 125	Re: Standard Draeger Shell unwanted in UK? Ahhh, hadn't thought of that! Cheers for the useful reply as always! Now... the VO2... yeah well... I had a bit of a "Homer" moment when we were loading the kit on the boat on Thursday.... and, erm.. my computer had fallen under the seat in the car, so I found myself on the boat with no computer, Fortunately my buddy had a depth gauge/timer so I went back to the way I was taught on the course and dove it standard... and watched closely by my buddy! so I don't know what my VO2 was on the dives I'll try to remember my computer next time though(!) once this cold clears anyway Nice dives though, we went out with Malcolm of Loch Fyne charters (Fyne Diving?) on his boat Little Blue and although the side of the loch with the wrecks in was weathered out we had a couple of very good scenics with 6m++ viz (good given recent weather!). Good enough to keep two committed rust monkeys down for 50 minutes! Every time I've dived Loch Fyne the life has been way larger and more prolific than the other sea lochs I've dived. Worth a look if you like fish bothering / photography. edited to add, Had a quick look at the shell again David, do you mean the bottom corners under the waistbelt "wings", or above them? Seems (without trying it out) awfully tight above the waistbelt and I'm not sure I've got long enough hoses to go under it? Do you have any pics of that part of your setup? Thanks again, Smudge Last edited by Smudgegs : 5th January 2008 at 11:49.
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5th January 2008, 19:38	#5 (permalink)
Smudgegs Divetart Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 125	Re: Standard Draeger Shell unwanted in UK? Cheers for those, I shall have a play and a couple of dry builds later I think I see you have the black wing (European?) is it any better than the blue one? (ie the one with no lift )
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5th January 2008, 22:44	#6 (permalink)
Freef Custom Title Disallowed! Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Land of the Freef, UK. Posts: 1,405	Re: Standard Draeger Shell unwanted in UK? The black wing is made by AP Valves, knwon for their high lift BCD's that have valves that stop water ingress when you use the pull dumps. Unfortunately these features are lacking on the one they fit to the Dolphin. And the harness is crap too. __________________ David. Diving the mahogany rebreather.
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5th January 2008, 23:01	#7 (permalink)
Smudgegs Divetart Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fife, Scotland Posts: 125	Re: Standard Draeger Shell unwanted in UK? Quote: (Originally Posted by Freef) The black wing is made by AP Valves, knwon for their high lift BCD's that have valves that stop water ingress when you use the pull dumps. Unfortunately these features are lacking on the one they fit to the Dolphin. And the harness is crap too. pmsl, you almost cost me another keyboard there That'll be just like the blue one then!! Incidentally, my regular buddy (Natts the Dive Tart) is seriously considering getting a Dolph, but he is of erm... more "robust" proportions have you ever seen a L or better yet XL dolphin stab jacket? Mine is marked Medium so I imagine there must be some somewhere... but all the ones at the school I trained at were med so I don't know if AP just said "stuff it it's crap anyway, just bang 'em all out the same size", ..and it's certainly too small for the Dive Tart!
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6th January 2008, 12:32	#8 (permalink)
Freef Custom Title Disallowed! Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Land of the Freef, UK. Posts: 1,405	Re: Standard Draeger Shell unwanted in UK? I'm 5'10" 12½ stone and the black wing is big on me-I had to tighten it a lot to get a good fit [in a drysuit]. __________________ David. Diving the mahogany rebreather.
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