list of RB80 clones

Jakub2007 · 5th March 2008, 11:01

Check the pictures George,
there are some inhale and exhale schemes as well. It could help you to know the construction of SATORI. The middle valve is the most important difference and improvement comparing with other units like this. There is NO rubber membrane in it to avoid any leakage of exhaled gas back to the loop. Check our sizes to see it all.
cheers
Jakub

Quote: (Originally Posted by gtzavelas)

Hello jakub and welcome to Rebreather World
Your new unit seems interesting – its definitely priced reasonably… does the price includes the BOV?
I believe it would help if you could post some more pics – even better if you were to do a detailed break down
also a pic of the bottom part ,its not very clear
What is the fixed exhalation ratio ?

george (ex - pSCR diver!)

ike · 5th March 2008, 13:38

Quote: (Originally Posted by OceanOpportunity)

Hey gang,

can anyone help me with pulling together a list of RB80 clones, who makes them, availability, and costs?

cheers,
ML

Hi

AH1 from german dive systems

German Diving Systems - Manufacturers of High End Technical Diving Equipment - "Made in Germany"

best ike

db8us · 6th March 2008, 16:04

Quote: (Originally Posted by ike)

Hi

AH1 from german dive systems

Hi Ike,

be careful, according to Wikipedia a clone is an exact copy and i heard that the comany reacts strongly if you officially state this.

To attract people its always an RB80 clone, to sell it is is a MUCH BETTER unit which they have engineered. If someones dies it was an RB80 and so on

So it always depends on the viewpoint.

Regards

Michael

ike · 7th March 2008, 04:26

Quote: (Originally Posted by db8us)

Hi Ike,

be careful, according to Wikipedia a clone is an exact copy and i heard that the comany reacts strongly if you officially state this.

To attract people its always an RB80 clone, to sell it is is a MUCH BETTER unit which they have engineered. If someones dies it was an RB80 and so on

So it always depends on the viewpoint.

Regards

Michael

Hallo Michael!

For me the AH1 is the best version of all the copys and clones around. Clone is maybe not the right word, its just the system because RB80 was the first machine and all others looking same.
But if you take a look on the Rebreather part you will see there is no difference between them - from the system thats the reason why I spec like the AH1

Also Alex is very nice guy maybe this the reason too

best Ike

**Dave Sutton** · 7th March 2008, 09:36

Quote: (Originally Posted by Jakub2007)

Check the pictures George,
there are some inhale and exhale schemes as well. It could help you to know the construction of SATORI. The middle valve is the most important difference and improvement comparing with other units like this. There is NO rubber membrane in it to avoid any leakage of exhaled gas back to the loop. Check our sizes to see it all.
cheers
Jakub

Thanks for the drawings and photos, Jakub! Hope mine is on the bench for assembly soon? Looking forward to seeing one in person. I'll post a review after diving it a while here. Have something special in mind for it.

Prior posters are right, calling these a Rebreather-80 clone is not 'really' right, but then again.. it makes the point. To me... it's just a DC-55 clone turned sideways!

Best,

Dave

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WD8CDH · 7th March 2008, 19:01

Hi Jakub,

What second stage ragulator parts are you using for the add valves?

Jakub2007 · 9th March 2008, 15:49

Hi, we use our own stainless add valves for SATORI SCR as well as the middle - exhale counterlung valve. .

Quote: (Originally Posted by WD8CDH)

Hi Jakub,

What second stage ragulator parts are you using for the add valves?

5th March 2008, 13:38	#22 (permalink)
ike New Member Current Rebreather/s: RB80 / Clone Other Rebreather/s: RB80 / Clone Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: austria Posts: 12	Re: list of RB80 clones Quote: (Originally Posted by OceanOpportunity) Hey gang, can anyone help me with pulling together a list of RB80 clones, who makes them, availability, and costs? cheers, ML Hi AH1 from german dive systems German Diving Systems - Manufacturers of High End Technical Diving Equipment - "Made in Germany" best ike
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6th March 2008, 16:04	#23 (permalink)
db8us Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Other SCR Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 226	Re: list of RB80 clones Quote: (Originally Posted by ike) Hi AH1 from german dive systems Hi Ike, be careful, according to Wikipedia a clone is an exact copy and i heard that the comany reacts strongly if you officially state this. To attract people its always an RB80 clone, to sell it is is a MUCH BETTER unit which they have engineered. If someones dies it was an RB80 and so on So it always depends on the viewpoint. Regards Michael
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7th March 2008, 04:26	#24 (permalink)
ike New Member Current Rebreather/s: RB80 / Clone Other Rebreather/s: RB80 / Clone Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: austria Posts: 12	Re: list of RB80 clones Quote: (Originally Posted by db8us) Hi Ike, be careful, according to Wikipedia a clone is an exact copy and i heard that the comany reacts strongly if you officially state this. To attract people its always an RB80 clone, to sell it is is a MUCH BETTER unit which they have engineered. If someones dies it was an RB80 and so on So it always depends on the viewpoint. Regards Michael Hallo Michael! For me the AH1 is the best version of all the copys and clones around. Clone is maybe not the right word, its just the system because RB80 was the first machine and all others looking same. But if you take a look on the Rebreather part you will see there is no difference between them - from the system thats the reason why I spec like the AH1 Also Alex is very nice guy maybe this the reason too best Ike
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7th March 2008, 09:36	#25 (permalink)
Dave Sutton Diveshop of Horrors Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island and Hackettstown, New Jersey Posts: 2,689	Re: list of RB80 clones Quote: (Originally Posted by Jakub2007) Check the pictures George, there are some inhale and exhale schemes as well. It could help you to know the construction of SATORI. The middle valve is the most important difference and improvement comparing with other units like this. There is NO rubber membrane in it to avoid any leakage of exhaled gas back to the loop. Check our sizes to see it all. cheers Jakub Thanks for the drawings and photos, Jakub! Hope mine is on the bench for assembly soon? Looking forward to seeing one in person. I'll post a review after diving it a while here. Have something special in mind for it. Prior posters are right, calling these a Rebreather-80 clone is not 'really' right, but then again.. it makes the point. To me... it's just a DC-55 clone turned sideways! Best, Dave . __________________ "Changes in Lattitudes, Changes in Attitudes, Nothing remains quite the same".... www.nobubblediving.com
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7th March 2008, 19:01	#26 (permalink)
WD8CDH New Member Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Other CCR Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other CCR Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NY Posts: 69	Re: list of RB80 clones Hi Jakub, What second stage ragulator parts are you using for the add valves?
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9th March 2008, 15:49	#27 (permalink)
Jakub2007 New Member Current Rebreather/s: Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Other SCR Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Ostrava, Czech Republic Posts: 21	Re: list of RB80 clones Hi, we use our own stainless add valves for SATORI SCR as well as the middle - exhale counterlung valve. . Quote: (Originally Posted by WD8CDH) Hi Jakub, What second stage ragulator parts are you using for the add valves?
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