Gripo Sorb ????

**Dave1w** · 7th April 2008, 12:13

Anyone heard of this stuff?

Dave

**PhilSiswick** · 7th April 2008, 15:43

This stuff? Soda Lime,CO2 Absorbent Exporter,Manufacturers of Soda Lime,Carbon Dioxide Absorbers,Supersorber CO2 Absorber,Soda Lime Absorbent,Soda Lime Medical Grade,Medical Soda Lime,Suppliers of Soda Lime.

I particularly like the comment: '4mm 8mm grade is the most popular, and is probably adequate for diving and medical purposes'. Clearly, the 'extensive R&D and Market Analysis on Soda Lime for 20 years' has paid off

Honestly, I've never heard from them, as I have not yet strayed off the one true path of Molecular Industries....

Cheers,

Dutchy · 7th April 2008, 17:38

Quote: (Originally Posted by PhilSiswick)

This stuff? Soda Lime,CO2 Absorbent Exporter,Manufacturers of Soda Lime,Carbon Dioxide Absorbers,Supersorber CO2 Absorber,Soda Lime Absorbent,Soda Lime Medical Grade,Medical Soda Lime,Suppliers of Soda Lime.

I particularly like the comment: '4mm 8mm grade is the most popular, and is probably adequate for diving and medical purposes'. Clearly, the 'extensive R&D and Market Analysis on Soda Lime for 20 years' has paid off

Honestly, I've never heard from them, as I have not yet strayed off the one true path of Molecular Industries....

Cheers,

Look under contact information you'll find they have a gmail account. If that's any indicator for professionalism then I'd stay away from their sorb.

The size of granules is far to big. Unless you specifically design for that size you'll find breakthrough is achieved all too easy. If you want to use a medical sorb I'd recommend Spherasorb. Although a medical sorb it's used by nearly every Rebreather diver I personally know (could it be it enjoys local popularity?) unless they really have to use the fine sofno. Spherasorb contains a lot less dust and is a lot cheaper. The lower reported WOB is questionable though as comparing it to the coarse grade sofno would be a more relevant comparison.

jkaterenchuk · 7th April 2008, 18:28

Dave

The manufacturing is done in India. Given that fact you must take everything they say with a grain of salt. ISO cert is meaningless. Given that your live in China now I suspect you know what kind of business practices are used in India and I am not telling you anything new.

I would not be concerned about them using a GMail address as that quite normal for many manufacturing companies in Asia and India.

John

jaap · 7th April 2008, 23:21

Might be a good product...but their chemistry section (pasted below) is riddled with errors, IMHO

Chemical Reactions that take place to bind Co2 :
First the gaseous Co2 reacts with water to form carbonic acid - H2CO3. Then the NaOH reacts with the carbonic acid to produce Na2Co2 and H2O. The Na2Co2 reacts with the Ca(OH)2 that has been disassociated into Calcium and Hydroxide Ions. (Ca++ and OH-) to produce CaC02 (calcium carbonate, otherwise known as limestone.) The CO2 is now in a relatively stable state. There is a net production of three H2O molecules for every molecule of CO2 which is taken in.

**Dave1w** · 8th April 2008, 02:22

Well, I was just wondering...
I got a couple of test sheets from them, but these are just a chemical analysis, rather than performance tests.
Dave

diveoceanos · 8th April 2008, 06:04

Quote: (Originally Posted by jaap)

Might be a good product...but their chemistry section (pasted below) is riddled with errors, IMHO

I concur 100 % with what you wrote. This section could be "borrowed" from somewhere else. I find it a little hard to believe that a chemical manufacturer lacks elementary knowledge of chemistry. It is very strange IMHO!

I also sent an email to them asking various questions. When and if I recieve any answer I will let you all know.

Cheers,
Sotos

7th April 2008, 12:13	#1 (permalink)
Dave1w Born Again Diver! Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Dolphin Ray Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Dolphin Ray Home Build Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: China / UK Posts: 332	Gripo Sorb ???? Anyone heard of this stuff? Dave __________________ This message may contain spelling mistakes as it was generated by an idiot.
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7th April 2008, 15:43	#2 (permalink)
PhilSiswick WSKD 0001 Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 884	Re: Gripo Sorb ???? This stuff? Soda Lime,CO2 Absorbent Exporter,Manufacturers of Soda Lime,Carbon Dioxide Absorbers,Supersorber CO2 Absorber,Soda Lime Absorbent,Soda Lime Medical Grade,Medical Soda Lime,Suppliers of Soda Lime. I particularly like the comment: '4mm 8mm grade is the most popular, and is probably adequate for diving and medical purposes'. Clearly, the 'extensive R&D and Market Analysis on Soda Lime for 20 years' has paid off Honestly, I've never heard from them, as I have not yet strayed off the one true path of Molecular Industries.... Cheers, __________________ Phil No comment on open circuit... it's an evolutionary dead end not really worth discussing here. Dave Sutton, 2007 I have always felt that the dive I am on is not nearly important as the dives I plan to be on the rest of my life. Tom Rose, 2007 www.hugsac.org.uk
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7th April 2008, 17:38	#3 (permalink)
Dutchy SK#007 Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Nieuwegein (The Netherlands) Posts: 699	Re: Gripo Sorb ???? Quote: (Originally Posted by PhilSiswick) This stuff? Soda Lime,CO2 Absorbent Exporter,Manufacturers of Soda Lime,Carbon Dioxide Absorbers,Supersorber CO2 Absorber,Soda Lime Absorbent,Soda Lime Medical Grade,Medical Soda Lime,Suppliers of Soda Lime. I particularly like the comment: '4mm 8mm grade is the most popular, and is probably adequate for diving and medical purposes'. Clearly, the 'extensive R&D and Market Analysis on Soda Lime for 20 years' has paid off Honestly, I've never heard from them, as I have not yet strayed off the one true path of Molecular Industries.... Cheers, Look under contact information you'll find they have a gmail account. If that's any indicator for professionalism then I'd stay away from their sorb. The size of granules is far to big. Unless you specifically design for that size you'll find breakthrough is achieved all too easy. If you want to use a medical sorb I'd recommend Spherasorb. Although a medical sorb it's used by nearly every Rebreather diver I personally know (could it be it enjoys local popularity?) unless they really have to use the fine sofno. Spherasorb contains a lot less dust and is a lot cheaper. The lower reported WOB is questionable though as comparing it to the coarse grade sofno would be a more relevant comparison. __________________ = This post is environmentally friendly. It is composed of 100% recycled electrons only. = SK #007 Last edited by Dutchy : 7th April 2008 at 17:43.
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7th April 2008, 18:28	#4 (permalink)
jkaterenchuk . Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lititz, PA Posts: 652	Re: Gripo Sorb ???? Dave The manufacturing is done in India. Given that fact you must take everything they say with a grain of salt. ISO cert is meaningless. Given that your live in China now I suspect you know what kind of business practices are used in India and I am not telling you anything new. I would not be concerned about them using a GMail address as that quite normal for many manufacturing companies in Asia and India. John
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7th April 2008, 23:21	#5 (permalink)
jaap Normal people worry me Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other CCR RB80 / Clone Ray Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR RB80 / Clone Ray Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Stockholm Sweden Posts: 438	Re: Gripo Sorb ???? Might be a good product...but their chemistry section (pasted below) is riddled with errors, IMHO Chemical Reactions that take place to bind Co2 : First the gaseous Co2 reacts with water to form carbonic acid - H2CO3. Then the NaOH reacts with the carbonic acid to produce Na2Co2 and H2O. The Na2Co2 reacts with the Ca(OH)2 that has been disassociated into Calcium and Hydroxide Ions. (Ca++ and OH-) to produce CaC02 (calcium carbonate, otherwise known as limestone.) The CO2 is now in a relatively stable state. There is a net production of three H2O molecules for every molecule of CO2 which is taken in. __________________ My initials: JAAP
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8th April 2008, 02:22	#6 (permalink)
Dave1w Born Again Diver! Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Dolphin Ray Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Dolphin Ray Home Build Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: China / UK Posts: 332	Re: Gripo Sorb ???? Well, I was just wondering... I got a couple of test sheets from them, but these are just a chemical analysis, rather than performance tests. Dave __________________ This message may contain spelling mistakes as it was generated by an idiot.
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8th April 2008, 06:04	#7 (permalink)
diveoceanos New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cyprus Posts: 43	Re: Gripo Sorb ???? Quote: (Originally Posted by jaap) Might be a good product...but their chemistry section (pasted below) is riddled with errors, IMHO I concur 100 % with what you wrote. This section could be "borrowed" from somewhere else. I find it a little hard to believe that a chemical manufacturer lacks elementary knowledge of chemistry. It is very strange IMHO! I also sent an email to them asking various questions. When and if I recieve any answer I will let you all know. Cheers, Sotos
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