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![]() ![]() | Re: Addition of O2 All constant mass flow mCCRs (rEvo, KISS, COPIS Meg, etc.) work under the same principle, the O2 flow rate from the orifice depends on the IP pressure of the Ambient Pressure Regulator, higher IP = higher O2 flow. Indeed it cleared things up, thank you Rob Your metabolic O2 demand while diving a specific unit is determined by breathing on that unit at rest on the surface and watching what happens to the pO2. Once you have matched the flow rate to your metabolic O2 demand on that unit the need to add O2 is constant regardless if you are using a rEvo, KISS, COPIS, or any other mCCR. For example if you have a unit with a low work of breathing and you set the O2 flow rate to .78 l/min and then were on a unit that had a higher WOB you might need to set the O2 flow rate to .82 l/min because the increased WOB will cause you to use more O2 at rest due to the higher level of exertion during respiration at rest. Hope that clarifies things. Rob ![]() Can't wait to get back to a "real" job and earn "real" money so i can buy a rebreather, X1, stages and and... ![]() |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Addition of O2 Indeed it cleared things up, thank you Rob As I student you have lots of free time, but no money to spend during all the free-time.![]() Can't wait to get back to a "real" job and earn "real" money so i can buy a rebreather, X1, stages and and... ![]() As a pay-slave, you have a lot more money, but no time to use it in :-( Nicolai
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| An independent diver. Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Home Build Join Date: May 2006 Location: Louisville, KY, USA
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Addition of O2 I use an orifice and fixed IP. I have set the unit for my at rest VO2. There are dives which I never have to touch it. (I do check it on a regular basis) Mine is set to 0,9 lpm. I never change the drive IP unless I dive warm water. It doesn't happen around here. Everyone's base VO2 is different. You have to know yours. Then, depending on on which school you belong the flow is set to that rate or slightly lower. Lower requires you to monitor PO2 more religiously. Dale |
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![]() ![]() | Re: Addition of O2 As I student you have lots of free time, but no money to spend during all the free-time. Too true As a pay-slave, you have a lot more money, but no time to use it in :-( Nicolai ![]() Hopefully i'll get a really wall paid job that allows me a lot of free time ![]() Well, at least in the weekends ![]() |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Addition of O2 On the working phase of the dive I probably inject once every 10mins or so on static deco hardly ever. ATB Mark
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Addition of O2 Never, the Hammerhead does the injection for me. ![]() Wether you want it to, or not ![]() ![]() ![]()
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| Living on Animal Farm ![]() Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island and Hackettstown, New Jersey
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Addition of O2 *GASP* You don't even verify what the Hammer is doing ![]() If i can afford it i would like to buy the rEvo with the Hammerhead as well, run it as a backup if i should forget to add gas myself. But hey, i might change my mind More like rEvo changed it's mind.... the HH and Shearwater controllers were tested and the Shearwater was selected as the control system for the rEvo. The Shearwater/rEvo is the factory option. Back to your question: If you have 'x' flow rate of 02 into a mCCR then you will have "y" additions needed to maintain PP02 at "z" workrate. None of it is rig dependant. I have perhaps... depending on what's put together on any one day... half dozen mCCR's here. They all act the same way. rEvo, Kiss, modified LAR-V, Modified IDA-71, Modified P-96, etc.... the chassis is irrelevent. None are hard to use and 02 injections take place less frequently than PP02 checks, and that's all that really counts. Do you have any idea who Dave T is? ![]() Best, Dave S .
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![]() ![]() | Re: Addition of O2 More like rEvo changed it's mind.... the HH and Shearwater controllers were tested and the Shearwater was selected as the control system for the rEvo. The Shearwater/rEvo is the factory option. Ah, well, you should not be surprised if it was me that was mistaken, not paying enough attention to what controller. But i do have an excuse; i was thinkin of the unit solely as manually controlled ![]() Quote: Back to your question: If you have 'x' flow rate of 02 into a mCCR then you will have "y" additions needed to maintain PP02 at "z" workrate. None of it is rig dependant. Good to know, and from what others have posted i was getting my head contorted in that direction.I have perhaps... depending on what's put together on any one day... half dozen mCCR's here. They all act the same way. rEvo, Kiss, modified LAR-V, Modified IDA-71, Modified P-96, etc.... the chassis is irrelevent. None are hard to use and 02 injections take place less frequently than PP02 checks, and that's all that really counts. After reading the posts here i hardly even need to take a course ![]() Quote: Do you have any idea who Dave T is? Nope. Should i or is that experience better left alone ![]() ![]() |
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![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Addition of O2 I use an orifice and fixed IP. I have set the unit for my at rest VO2. There are dives which I never have to touch it. (I do check it on a regular basis) Hello Dale,Mine is set to 0,9 lpm. I never change the drive IP unless I dive warm water. It doesn't happen around here. Everyone's base VO2 is different. You have to know yours. Then, depending on on which school you belong the flow is set to that rate or slightly lower. Lower requires you to monitor PO2 more religiously. Dale How do you do since the DragerKiss List ? ![]()
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