Decluttering The rEvo

PnL · 28th February 2008, 02:22

One of the selling points of the rEvo for me is how streamlined it is. There is a harness system in the front, just like I dive my OC doubles rig, and almost everything is on the side or the back. Nice and streamlined – just the way I like it. The only parts that dangle off the front were the two rEvo Dreams and SPG sets. In order to move them out of the way, I re-routed some of the cables and hoses so that both SPG’s are on the left side (like they are on my OC doubles rig), clipped off on the left waist D-ring. This keeps the SPG’s tucked away, yet easy to view when necessary. The rEvo Dreams are put together on the right side, with the displays rotated 90 degrees so I can view both of them in line – they are set up so they match the HUDs. The Dreams are attached to a retractor for quick access instead of a D-ring since I look at the Dreams more often. This keeps the Dreams tucked away by the wing when I’m not looking at it, but is very easy to reach and view.

Now my rig is nice and clean with no danglies in the front, yet everything is still easily accessible for my viewing pleasure!

Here is a picture of the rEvo Dreams and SPG setup on my rEvo:

In keeping with the streamlined philosophy, I also wanted to have my bailout bottles tucked away so they didn’t hang down so low. The latest craze is side-mounting, and although you can purchase a side-mount kit at reasonable prices, I had a SMB storage butt-plate from Abyss (when Chris had his liquidation sale) and I simply added two brackets to it. Bungies route neatly through holes in the upper portion of the split backplate and voila, a side-mount rig setup for a few bucks. This should keep my bailout bottle tucked out of the way and keep the front of the rig streamlined.

Here are pictures of the setup:

**kybrt** · 28th February 2008, 06:20

how does the tapping work with both dreams tied together?

i have been trying to decide if i want to rotate my displays or get a shearwater. you dont have a sw right?

scubagrunt · 28th February 2008, 06:37

Nice post thanks for sharing
mel

Stephane · 28th February 2008, 07:28

Hi Paul,

The more I dive with the rEvo, the less I look at the rEvodreams (HUDs are great!), so I clamp them on the waist D-ring. It's even more true now that I have the Hammerhead and I can see all 3 cells at a time.
Anyway, have you considered to put a stainless-steel lineyard to avoid stress on the cables? I would fix it on the rEvodream and on the SS case, this would replace the HP hose.

paulraymaekers · 28th February 2008, 08:50

Quote: (Originally Posted by Stephane)

Hi Paul,
Anyway, have you considered to put a stainless-steel lineyard to avoid stress on the cables? I would fix it on the rEvodream and on the SS case, this would replace the HP hose.

this is an important point: one of the reasons why the rEvodreams are fixed on the gauges, is to prevent 'pull' on the cables: this is always a weak point for cables: the places where the cables pass cableglands, are more fragile: a sudden 'pull' can break the internal copper wiring! and then the only fix is to completely change the cable, as everything is potted

regards
paul

PnL · 28th February 2008, 16:38

The tapping is not a problem. I can tap them both at the same time or tap them individually.

As far as the cables on the Dreams, I do realize they are a potential failure point but the Dreams are tucked away quite nicely during a dive so I don't expect it will catch onto anything. In fact, its right behind my dive light canister (right waist strap). The boltsnap I have on it is on the housing of the dreams and not on the cables, so when I retrieve the Dreams to look at them, there is no strain on the cables.

When I get my Shearwater Controller, I will only rely on the Dreams for backup and confirmation so I will be pulling it out only rarely.

Stephane · 28th February 2008, 16:46

Quote:

As far as the cables on the Dreams, I do realize they are a potential failure point but the Dreams are tucked away quite nicely during a dive so I don't expect it will catch onto anything. In fact, its right behind my dive light canister (right waist strap). The boltsnap I have on it is on the housing of the dreams and not on the cables, so when I retrieve the Dreams to look at them, there is no strain on the cables.

How much does a laneyard cost? How much does it cost to send the rEvodreams to the factory?

The problem is not when you dive but before and after the dive, when you move the machine .

**Gill Envy** · 28th February 2008, 18:53

I really enjoyed seeing the rEvo up close last weekend, I think it's a great set up. There is one thing that seemed like it has room for a more optimal configuration. In the third photograph down in the first post you can see the two high pressure hoses in the middle, looped through one another. I've been warned about setting up hoses with such a sharp angle, that such a sharp angle stresses the hoses unevenly and over time can lead to a weak point and eventually a vulnerability to bursting. I would at the very least inspect these hoses periodically for signs of cracks or signs of stress. does anyone else think this could be a problem? There is probably a configuration mod that would keep these hoses straighter. The thing is that these hoses can take a lot of abuse but in the rare scenario when they go, it's no fun!

just a thought.

PnL · 28th February 2008, 21:15

Quote: (Originally Posted by Stephane)

How much does a laneyard cost? How much does it cost to send the rEvodreams to the factory?

The problem is not when you dive but before and after the dive, when you move the machine .

The reason I did it was not due to a cost to benefit analysis - if I did, I wouldn't be diving a rebreather

I've been diving my rig this way for over 5 months now and its been to Hawaii as well. I readily admit that if the Dreams get pulled then it will damage it. Same is true of the HUDs, or if you get any of the cables caught in something. How do you protect your HUDs from being damaged? Or if you have a VR3 or other computer hooked up to the 4th cell - how do you rig that is there is no chance of the cables being pulled?

My goal is not to bombproof my unit from all potential problems, but make it simple and useable without creating any problems and this solution works for me.

Paul

PnL · 28th February 2008, 21:17

Quote: (Originally Posted by Gill Envy)

I really enjoyed seeing the rEvo up close last weekend, I think it's a great set up. There is one thing that seemed like it has room for a more optimal configuration. In the third photograph down in the first post you can see the two high pressure hoses in the middle, looped through one another. I've been warned about setting up hoses with such a sharp angle, that such a sharp angle stresses the hoses unevenly and over time can lead to a weak point and eventually a vulnerability to bursting. I would at the very least inspect these hoses periodically for signs of cracks or signs of stress. does anyone else think this could be a problem? There is probably a configuration mod that would keep these hoses straighter. The thing is that these hoses can take a lot of abuse but in the rare scenario when they go, it's no fun!

just a thought.

Gill,

The two hoses that loop through each other are actually LP hoses that feed the CL's with diluent and O2. The HP hoses travel up the side of the canister and over the shoulder to the SPGs.

28th February 2008, 02:22	#1 (permalink)
PnL RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 188	Decluttering The rEvo One of the selling points of the rEvo for me is how streamlined it is. There is a harness system in the front, just like I dive my OC doubles rig, and almost everything is on the side or the back. Nice and streamlined – just the way I like it. The only parts that dangle off the front were the two rEvo Dreams and SPG sets. In order to move them out of the way, I re-routed some of the cables and hoses so that both SPG’s are on the left side (like they are on my OC doubles rig), clipped off on the left waist D-ring. This keeps the SPG’s tucked away, yet easy to view when necessary. The rEvo Dreams are put together on the right side, with the displays rotated 90 degrees so I can view both of them in line – they are set up so they match the HUDs. The Dreams are attached to a retractor for quick access instead of a D-ring since I look at the Dreams more often. This keeps the Dreams tucked away by the wing when I’m not looking at it, but is very easy to reach and view. Now my rig is nice and clean with no danglies in the front, yet everything is still easily accessible for my viewing pleasure! Here is a picture of the rEvo Dreams and SPG setup on my rEvo: In keeping with the streamlined philosophy, I also wanted to have my bailout bottles tucked away so they didn’t hang down so low. The latest craze is side-mounting, and although you can purchase a side-mount kit at reasonable prices, I had a SMB storage butt-plate from Abyss (when Chris had his liquidation sale) and I simply added two brackets to it. Bungies route neatly through holes in the upper portion of the split backplate and voila, a side-mount rig setup for a few bucks. This should keep my bailout bottle tucked out of the way and keep the front of the rig streamlined. Here are pictures of the setup: __________________ SDTechDiving.com - A San Diego Technical Diving Community
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28th February 2008, 06:20	#2 (permalink)
kybrt too legit to quit Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Neuw Yawk Posts: 375	Re: Decluttering The rEvo how does the tapping work with both dreams tied together? i have been trying to decide if i want to rotate my displays or get a shearwater. you dont have a sw right? __________________ Marv Fidelis Ad Mortem www.diveboatkaren.com
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28th February 2008, 06:37	#3 (permalink)
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28th February 2008, 07:28	#4 (permalink)
Stephane Stéphane Acounis Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Nantes - France Posts: 785	Re: Decluttering The rEvo Hi Paul, The more I dive with the rEvo, the less I look at the rEvodreams (HUDs are great!), so I clamp them on the waist D-ring. It's even more true now that I have the Hammerhead and I can see all 3 cells at a time. Anyway, have you considered to put a stainless-steel lineyard to avoid stress on the cables? I would fix it on the rEvodream and on the SS case, this would replace the HP hose. __________________ Stéphane
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28th February 2008, 08:50	#5 (permalink)
paulraymaekers rEvo's daddy Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Join Date: May 2005 Location: belgium Posts: 1,578	Re: Decluttering The rEvo Quote: (Originally Posted by Stephane) Hi Paul, Anyway, have you considered to put a stainless-steel lineyard to avoid stress on the cables? I would fix it on the rEvodream and on the SS case, this would replace the HP hose. this is an important point: one of the reasons why the rEvodreams are fixed on the gauges, is to prevent 'pull' on the cables: this is always a weak point for cables: the places where the cables pass cableglands, are more fragile: a sudden 'pull' can break the internal copper wiring! and then the only fix is to completely change the cable, as everything is potted regards paul __________________ www.rEvo-rebreathers.com .... the earth is flat, Elvis is alive, and radial scrubbers give longer dwell time than axials...
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28th February 2008, 16:38	#6 (permalink)
PnL RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 188	Re: Decluttering The rEvo The tapping is not a problem. I can tap them both at the same time or tap them individually. As far as the cables on the Dreams, I do realize they are a potential failure point but the Dreams are tucked away quite nicely during a dive so I don't expect it will catch onto anything. In fact, its right behind my dive light canister (right waist strap). The boltsnap I have on it is on the housing of the dreams and not on the cables, so when I retrieve the Dreams to look at them, there is no strain on the cables. When I get my Shearwater Controller, I will only rely on the Dreams for backup and confirmation so I will be pulling it out only rarely. __________________ SDTechDiving.com - A San Diego Technical Diving Community
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28th February 2008, 16:46	#7 (permalink)
Stephane Stéphane Acounis Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Nantes - France Posts: 785	Re: Decluttering The rEvo Quote: As far as the cables on the Dreams, I do realize they are a potential failure point but the Dreams are tucked away quite nicely during a dive so I don't expect it will catch onto anything. In fact, its right behind my dive light canister (right waist strap). The boltsnap I have on it is on the housing of the dreams and not on the cables, so when I retrieve the Dreams to look at them, there is no strain on the cables. How much does a laneyard cost? How much does it cost to send the rEvodreams to the factory? The problem is not when you dive but before and after the dive, when you move the machine . __________________ Stéphane
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28th February 2008, 18:53	#8 (permalink)
Gill Envy Shearwater Copis Divers Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Other CCR Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: seattle Posts: 1,337	Re: Decluttering The rEvo I really enjoyed seeing the rEvo up close last weekend, I think it's a great set up. There is one thing that seemed like it has room for a more optimal configuration. In the third photograph down in the first post you can see the two high pressure hoses in the middle, looped through one another. I've been warned about setting up hoses with such a sharp angle, that such a sharp angle stresses the hoses unevenly and over time can lead to a weak point and eventually a vulnerability to bursting. I would at the very least inspect these hoses periodically for signs of cracks or signs of stress. does anyone else think this could be a problem? There is probably a configuration mod that would keep these hoses straighter. The thing is that these hoses can take a lot of abuse but in the rare scenario when they go, it's no fun! just a thought. __________________ Gill Envy ...Because I wasn't born with gills! ><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>
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28th February 2008, 21:15	#9 (permalink)
PnL RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 188	Re: Decluttering The rEvo Quote: (Originally Posted by Stephane) How much does a laneyard cost? How much does it cost to send the rEvodreams to the factory? The problem is not when you dive but before and after the dive, when you move the machine . The reason I did it was not due to a cost to benefit analysis - if I did, I wouldn't be diving a rebreather I've been diving my rig this way for over 5 months now and its been to Hawaii as well. I readily admit that if the Dreams get pulled then it will damage it. Same is true of the HUDs, or if you get any of the cables caught in something. How do you protect your HUDs from being damaged? Or if you have a VR3 or other computer hooked up to the 4th cell - how do you rig that is there is no chance of the cables being pulled? My goal is not to bombproof my unit from all potential problems, but make it simple and useable without creating any problems and this solution works for me. Paul __________________ SDTechDiving.com - A San Diego Technical Diving Community
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28th February 2008, 21:17	#10 (permalink)
PnL RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 188	Re: Decluttering The rEvo Quote: (Originally Posted by Gill Envy) I really enjoyed seeing the rEvo up close last weekend, I think it's a great set up. There is one thing that seemed like it has room for a more optimal configuration. In the third photograph down in the first post you can see the two high pressure hoses in the middle, looped through one another. I've been warned about setting up hoses with such a sharp angle, that such a sharp angle stresses the hoses unevenly and over time can lead to a weak point and eventually a vulnerability to bursting. I would at the very least inspect these hoses periodically for signs of cracks or signs of stress. does anyone else think this could be a problem? There is probably a configuration mod that would keep these hoses straighter. The thing is that these hoses can take a lot of abuse but in the rare scenario when they go, it's no fun! just a thought. Gill, The two hoses that loop through each other are actually LP hoses that feed the CL's with diluent and O2. The HP hoses travel up the side of the canister and over the shoulder to the SPGs. __________________ SDTechDiving.com - A San Diego Technical Diving Community
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