Undressing The rEvo

PnL · 27th February 2008, 19:52

One great thing about a set of doubles with a backplate is that you could remove the BP and wings for ease of cleaning, storage and travel. This is true of some other CCR units out there and is one of the few things I don’t like about the rEvo. The bolts holding the wing and split BP are not captured and the only way to remove and re-install the wing/BP is to remove the cover from the rEvo case. This is not trivial, as anyone who has done it can tell you.

A solution to this is to tack the bolts to the rEvo case cover and replace the bottom plate nuts with wing nuts and the top plate nuts with nylocks (the bolts are M8 x 1.25). This is exactly what I did and it allows for quick removal of the BP/wings for ease of cleaning and reduces weight of the unit for travel. My trip to Hawaii had the rEvo and a 9 lb case at 50 lbs – I barely made it and with the airline restrictions on checked baggage getting stricter every year, the ability to remove the wing/BP gives me more options. It also allows me to clean the wing out easier since I don’t have to handle the entire rEvo unit.

Here are some pictures of the “Undressing of The rEvo”:

Fully dressed rEvo:

Wing nuts on the lower plate:

The harness, removed from the rEvo:

The rEvo with the harness removed, only the wing remains from a full frontal:

The naked rEvo - Oh la la!:

silentscuba · 27th February 2008, 20:12

Very good idea, thanks for sharing the information and I totally agree with what you did and why you did.

I guess I need to strip my rEvo naked also, and depending on your gender, a person would decide weather your rEvo is a she or a he

which makes it a little more exciting.

Off to the welder I go

.

paulraymaekers · 27th February 2008, 20:15

nicely done!!

paul

(an now find a better welder and the result will be 'epoustouflan' :-)

**Dave1w** · 27th February 2008, 23:12

Is the Split backplate available seperately? I woudl be interested if it coudl be put on my Sport Kiss, looks like a neat travel accessory

Dave

PnL · 28th February 2008, 00:36

Quote: (Originally Posted by paulraymaekers)

nicely done!!

paul

(an now find a better welder and the result will be 'epoustouflan' :-)

Yes, I was hoping for more "tacking" and less "bead laying" on the job. But it works fine. Cosmetically, it leaves a little to be desired and there is some warping of the plate. So if anyone goes does this, make sure you do it on an Al table and don't run long beads!

cool_hardware52 · 28th February 2008, 01:22

Having "fixed" studs that allow removal of the backplate, CL's and harness by spinning off two wing nuts was the main goal of these two kits, for the Evo and Inspiration.

https://www.deepseasupply.com/index.php?product=110

https://www.deepseasupply.com/index.php?product=123

It is much easier to service the machine if you can easily strip off the plate, harness, and CL's.

Every Rebreather I've stripped the BC and harness off of had a 1/2 cup of sand in it, because it is such a chore to tear down.

I would imagine a pretty simple kit could be made to provide the same functionality for the rEvo, by this I mean a set of threaded plates that make the stock studs "fixed" but also removable and replaceable if required.

Tobin

PnL · 28th February 2008, 01:39

Quote: (Originally Posted by cool_hardware52)

Having "fixed" studs that allow removal of the backplate, CL's and harness by spinning off two wing nuts was the main goal of these two kits, for the Evo and Inspiration.

https://www.deepseasupply.com/index.php?product=110

https://www.deepseasupply.com/index.php?product=123

It is much easier to service the machine if you can easily strip off the plate, harness, and CL's.

Every Rebreather I've stripped the BC and harness off of had a 1/2 cup of sand in it, because it is such a chore to tear down.

I would imagine a pretty simple kit could be made to provide the same functionality for the rEvo, by this I mean a set of threaded plates that make the stock studs "fixed" but also removable and replaceable if required.

Tobin

Hey Tobin,

I'll glady do some beta-testing for you if you want. I can bring my rEvo up for you to check out as well - I head up north (from San Diego) every now and then. PM me if you're interested.

Thanks,
Paul

**kybrt** · 28th February 2008, 05:12

Thats a nice bit of mod there. did you take the guts out, or weld it with em in? any problems with that? heat?

alos you have one crotch strap only? do you use the split straps like stock anymore? if so how do you rig them? are they part of that oms deal??

hey if anybody comes up with a plate that replaces welding, i want one.

marv

silentscuba · 28th February 2008, 12:28

Quote: (Originally Posted by kybrt)

Thats a nice bit of mod there. did you take the guts out, or weld it with em in? any problems with that? heat?

alos you have one crotch strap only? do you use the split straps like stock anymore? if so how do you rig them? are they part of that oms deal??

hey if anybody comes up with a plate that replaces welding, i want one.

marv

You have to take the panel off the unit that the thru bolts are attached to. The welding is done from the bolt head side which is inside the unit and is up against the counterlungs. If you try to weld from the exposed side you will melt the counterlungs which would not be a good thing.

I am going to have mine done today.

paulraymaekers · 28th February 2008, 14:50

Quote: (Originally Posted by silentscuba)

You have to take the panel off the unit that the thru bolts are attached to. The welding is done from the bolt head side which is inside the unit and is up against the counterlungs. If you try to weld from the exposed side you will melt the counterlungs which would not be a good thing.

I am going to have mine done today.

for the mini it is not an item, but for the standard there are different positions possible for the bolts: so be sure you have it right before you start welding :-)

regards
paul

27th February 2008, 19:52	#1 (permalink)
PnL Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 182	Undressing The rEvo One great thing about a set of doubles with a backplate is that you could remove the BP and wings for ease of cleaning, storage and travel. This is true of some other CCR units out there and is one of the few things I don’t like about the rEvo. The bolts holding the wing and split BP are not captured and the only way to remove and re-install the wing/BP is to remove the cover from the rEvo case. This is not trivial, as anyone who has done it can tell you. A solution to this is to tack the bolts to the rEvo case cover and replace the bottom plate nuts with wing nuts and the top plate nuts with nylocks (the bolts are M8 x 1.25). This is exactly what I did and it allows for quick removal of the BP/wings for ease of cleaning and reduces weight of the unit for travel. My trip to Hawaii had the rEvo and a 9 lb case at 50 lbs – I barely made it and with the airline restrictions on checked baggage getting stricter every year, the ability to remove the wing/BP gives me more options. It also allows me to clean the wing out easier since I don’t have to handle the entire rEvo unit. Here are some pictures of the “Undressing of The rEvo”: Fully dressed rEvo: Wing nuts on the lower plate: The harness, removed from the rEvo: The rEvo with the harness removed, only the wing remains from a full frontal: The naked rEvo - Oh la la!: __________________ SDTechDiving.com - A San Diego Technical Diving Community
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27th February 2008, 20:12	#2 (permalink)
silentscuba rEvo CCR Driver Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic rEvo Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mill Creek, WA USA Posts: 582	Re: Undressing The rEvo Very good idea, thanks for sharing the information and I totally agree with what you did and why you did. I guess I need to strip my rEvo naked also, and depending on your gender, a person would decide weather your rEvo is a she or a he which makes it a little more exciting. Off to the welder I go . __________________ Curt McNamee rEvo CCR Diver KISS CCR Diver www.silentscuba.com Last edited by silentscuba : 28th February 2008 at 01:15.
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27th February 2008, 20:15	#3 (permalink)
paulraymaekers rEvo's daddy Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Join Date: May 2005 Location: belgium Posts: 1,437	Re: Undressing The rEvo nicely done!! paul (an now find a better welder and the result will be 'epoustouflan' :-) __________________ www.rEvo-rebreathers.com .... the earth is flat, Elvis is alive, and radial scrubbers give longer dwell time than axials...
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27th February 2008, 23:12	#4 (permalink)
Dave1w Born Again Diver! Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Dolphin Ray Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Dolphin Ray Home Build Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore / UK Posts: 339	Re: Undressing The rEvo Is the Split backplate available seperately? I woudl be interested if it coudl be put on my Sport Kiss, looks like a neat travel accessory Dave __________________ This message may contain spelling mistakes as it was generated by an idiot.
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28th February 2008, 00:36	#5 (permalink)
PnL Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 182	Re: Undressing The rEvo Quote: (Originally Posted by paulraymaekers) nicely done!! paul (an now find a better welder and the result will be 'epoustouflan' :-) Yes, I was hoping for more "tacking" and less "bead laying" on the job. But it works fine. Cosmetically, it leaves a little to be desired and there is some warping of the plate. So if anyone goes does this, make sure you do it on an Al table and don't run long beads! __________________ SDTechDiving.com - A San Diego Technical Diving Community
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28th February 2008, 01:22	#6 (permalink)
cool_hardware52 RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: SoCal USA Posts: 376	Re: Undressing The rEvo Having "fixed" studs that allow removal of the backplate, CL's and harness by spinning off two wing nuts was the main goal of these two kits, for the Evo and Inspiration. https://www.deepseasupply.com/index.php?product=110 https://www.deepseasupply.com/index.php?product=123 It is much easier to service the machine if you can easily strip off the plate, harness, and CL's. Every Rebreather I've stripped the BC and harness off of had a 1/2 cup of sand in it, because it is such a chore to tear down. I would imagine a pretty simple kit could be made to provide the same functionality for the rEvo, by this I mean a set of threaded plates that make the stock studs "fixed" but also removable and replaceable if required. Tobin __________________ www.deepseasupply.com
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28th February 2008, 01:39	#7 (permalink)
PnL Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 182	Re: Undressing The rEvo Quote: (Originally Posted by cool_hardware52) Having "fixed" studs that allow removal of the backplate, CL's and harness by spinning off two wing nuts was the main goal of these two kits, for the Evo and Inspiration. https://www.deepseasupply.com/index.php?product=110 https://www.deepseasupply.com/index.php?product=123 It is much easier to service the machine if you can easily strip off the plate, harness, and CL's. Every Rebreather I've stripped the BC and harness off of had a 1/2 cup of sand in it, because it is such a chore to tear down. I would imagine a pretty simple kit could be made to provide the same functionality for the rEvo, by this I mean a set of threaded plates that make the stock studs "fixed" but also removable and replaceable if required. Tobin Hey Tobin, I'll glady do some beta-testing for you if you want. I can bring my rEvo up for you to check out as well - I head up north (from San Diego) every now and then. PM me if you're interested. Thanks, Paul __________________ SDTechDiving.com - A San Diego Technical Diving Community
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28th February 2008, 05:12	#8 (permalink)
kybrt too legit to quit Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Neuw Yawk Posts: 324	Re: Undressing The rEvo Thats a nice bit of mod there. did you take the guts out, or weld it with em in? any problems with that? heat? alos you have one crotch strap only? do you use the split straps like stock anymore? if so how do you rig them? are they part of that oms deal?? hey if anybody comes up with a plate that replaces welding, i want one. marv __________________ Marv Fidelis Ad Mortem www.diveboatkaren.com
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28th February 2008, 12:28	#9 (permalink)
silentscuba rEvo CCR Driver Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic rEvo Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mill Creek, WA USA Posts: 582	Re: Undressing The rEvo Quote: (Originally Posted by kybrt) Thats a nice bit of mod there. did you take the guts out, or weld it with em in? any problems with that? heat? alos you have one crotch strap only? do you use the split straps like stock anymore? if so how do you rig them? are they part of that oms deal?? hey if anybody comes up with a plate that replaces welding, i want one. marv You have to take the panel off the unit that the thru bolts are attached to. The welding is done from the bolt head side which is inside the unit and is up against the counterlungs. If you try to weld from the exposed side you will melt the counterlungs which would not be a good thing. I am going to have mine done today. __________________ Curt McNamee rEvo CCR Diver KISS CCR Diver www.silentscuba.com
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28th February 2008, 14:50	#10 (permalink)
paulraymaekers rEvo's daddy Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Join Date: May 2005 Location: belgium Posts: 1,437	Re: Undressing The rEvo Quote: (Originally Posted by silentscuba) You have to take the panel off the unit that the thru bolts are attached to. The welding is done from the bolt head side which is inside the unit and is up against the counterlungs. If you try to weld from the exposed side you will melt the counterlungs which would not be a good thing. I am going to have mine done today. for the mini it is not an item, but for the standard there are different positions possible for the bolts: so be sure you have it right before you start welding :-) regards paul __________________ www.rEvo-rebreathers.com .... the earth is flat, Elvis is alive, and radial scrubbers give longer dwell time than axials...
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