The Golem BOV Project

Tyler S. · 1st February 2008, 18:54

Because there is not much info around on what you need to do to mount a BOV to your rEvo I will write up a small blurb with the useful info that I had to ask several parties for.

Mounting a BOV really isnt that hard. If mounting to dil there are some things you need to know. First off there arent enough lp ports on the ds4 for good hose routing. I decided to use a lp manifold block which sits right above my left shoulder, it makes it easier to mount the tank and keeps hoses cleaner. The lp hose running from the ds4 to the block is 24". From there you'll need a 15" lp inflator hose for bc and an approx 20 in lp hose for the BOV. This allows very clean mounting and the lp hose going to the BOV follows the loop so its not off in outerspace to get caught on something. You may slip the lp hose through the hose wrap for further protection. I also used a quick disconnect on the BOV for easy cleaning and option of plugging in offboard bailout.

Some other useful info:
-The ray hoses are 43 mm so innertube is needed to mount a KISS sized bov.
-Hose clamps work much better than zip ties

This might sound confusing but I'll post pictures so it makes sense.

**Dave Sutton** · 1st February 2008, 19:28

Quote: (Originally Posted by Tyler S.)

-The ray hoses are 43 mm so innertube is needed to mount a KISS sized bov.
-Hose clamps work much better than zip ties

Nice post. Agreed strongly with #2 above, but not #1: I've used a KISS BOV with Ray Hoses for years on several rigs without any sort of shim... just tighten the hose clamp down. The hoses are flexable enough to take up any slack. Try it. Use the narrow hose clamps, the ones that are 1/4 inch wide (McMaster-Carr has them by the box and they are cheap) and just slip the hose over and clamp away.

One thing I found useful for head-movement was to (1) Use an omniswivel at the BOV, (2) Use an Ocean Reef QD into the omniswivel so the hose can be removed for equipment break-down, and (3) Tie-wrap the HUD wire parallel to the BOV hose... NOT wrapped around the breathing hose. Makes the hose set lots more flexable while diving, and to remove the Ray hose set for cleaning, just snap off the HUD from the BOV, snap-open the quick connect to the BOV and unplug the P-Connectors. Works a charm. Photos if desired.

Dave
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Stephane · 1st February 2008, 19:41

I'm using inner tube and zip ties and I have no problems.

For the HUDs, here are some photos on how to mount them:

You'll just have to bend the SS part to have the right HUD perfectly visible.

Tyler S. · 1st February 2008, 20:08

Still playing with the HUD....

Wanted to say thanks to Stephane for answering a lot of my questions and also Joe and Joe at Omniswivel for coming down to give me some ideas and making me some custom hoses within a 30 minute period , I'll drop a case of beer by on monday!

cameron · 1st February 2008, 20:24

If you need more LP ports on your reg, consider using the new T3 regs from apex. They have all 3 ports facing in the same direction.

I changed out the DS4 with T3s and removed the manifold on my Classic KISS. Works a charm.

Cam

**Dave Sutton** · 1st February 2008, 20:49

Quote: (Originally Posted by Tyler S.)

Still playing with the HUD....

I make a replacement clip to hold the HUD on a KISS BOV. PM if desired, and ask Pete Piemonte here how he likes his.

Dave

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**kybrt** · 2nd February 2008, 06:01

hey guys.... any change in the loop hose weights? im about to make this leap myself.

thanks

Stephane · 2nd February 2008, 06:57

Hi Marv,

No, the Golem BOV is quite neutral in the water.

**Dave Sutton** · 2nd February 2008, 09:47

And the KISS one is perfect if you remove the weights completely. I'd prefer a Golem though if buying new. Actually, I like the looks of the Pelagian, but.... have a KISS.

Dave

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Tyler S. · 2nd February 2008, 18:19

Well, I broke the SS mount for my HUD by trying to bend it. But in doing so I found a cool way to remounbt it using the broken piece. Ill post pics later to show you can it actually makes then sit lower so they are not blocking your vision as much

1st February 2008, 18:54	#1 (permalink)
Tyler S. rEject Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 232	The Golem BOV Project Because there is not much info around on what you need to do to mount a BOV to your rEvo I will write up a small blurb with the useful info that I had to ask several parties for. Mounting a BOV really isnt that hard. If mounting to dil there are some things you need to know. First off there arent enough lp ports on the ds4 for good hose routing. I decided to use a lp manifold block which sits right above my left shoulder, it makes it easier to mount the tank and keeps hoses cleaner. The lp hose running from the ds4 to the block is 24". From there you'll need a 15" lp inflator hose for bc and an approx 20 in lp hose for the BOV. This allows very clean mounting and the lp hose going to the BOV follows the loop so its not off in outerspace to get caught on something. You may slip the lp hose through the hose wrap for further protection. I also used a quick disconnect on the BOV for easy cleaning and option of plugging in offboard bailout. Some other useful info: -The ray hoses are 43 mm so innertube is needed to mount a KISS sized bov. -Hose clamps work much better than zip ties This might sound confusing but I'll post pictures so it makes sense.
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1st February 2008, 19:28	#2 (permalink)
Dave Sutton Diveshop of Horrors Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island and Hackettstown, New Jersey Posts: 2,689	Re: The Golem BOV Project Quote: (Originally Posted by Tyler S.) -The ray hoses are 43 mm so innertube is needed to mount a KISS sized bov. -Hose clamps work much better than zip ties Nice post. Agreed strongly with #2 above, but not #1: I've used a KISS BOV with Ray Hoses for years on several rigs without any sort of shim... just tighten the hose clamp down. The hoses are flexable enough to take up any slack. Try it. Use the narrow hose clamps, the ones that are 1/4 inch wide (McMaster-Carr has them by the box and they are cheap) and just slip the hose over and clamp away. One thing I found useful for head-movement was to (1) Use an omniswivel at the BOV, (2) Use an Ocean Reef QD into the omniswivel so the hose can be removed for equipment break-down, and (3) Tie-wrap the HUD wire parallel to the BOV hose... NOT wrapped around the breathing hose. Makes the hose set lots more flexable while diving, and to remove the Ray hose set for cleaning, just snap off the HUD from the BOV, snap-open the quick connect to the BOV and unplug the P-Connectors. Works a charm. Photos if desired. Dave . __________________ "Changes in Lattitudes, Changes in Attitudes, Nothing remains quite the same".... www.nobubblediving.com Last edited by Dave Sutton : 1st February 2008 at 19:31.
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1st February 2008, 19:41	#3 (permalink)
Stephane Stéphane Acounis Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Nantes - France Posts: 773	Re: The Golem BOV Project I'm using inner tube and zip ties and I have no problems. For the HUDs, here are some photos on how to mount them: You'll just have to bend the SS part to have the right HUD perfectly visible. __________________ Stéphane
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1st February 2008, 20:08	#4 (permalink)
Tyler S. rEject Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 232	Re: The Golem BOV Project Still playing with the HUD.... Wanted to say thanks to Stephane for answering a lot of my questions and also Joe and Joe at Omniswivel for coming down to give me some ideas and making me some custom hoses within a 30 minute period , I'll drop a case of beer by on monday!
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1st February 2008, 20:24	#5 (permalink)
cameron Classic Kiss 124 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 252	Re: The Golem BOV Project If you need more LP ports on your reg, consider using the new T3 regs from apex. They have all 3 ports facing in the same direction. I changed out the DS4 with T3s and removed the manifold on my Classic KISS. Works a charm. Cam __________________ Reclaim at work and CCR at home, life is good
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1st February 2008, 20:49	#6 (permalink)
Dave Sutton Diveshop of Horrors Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island and Hackettstown, New Jersey Posts: 2,689	Re: The Golem BOV Project Quote: (Originally Posted by Tyler S.) Still playing with the HUD.... I make a replacement clip to hold the HUD on a KISS BOV. PM if desired, and ask Pete Piemonte here how he likes his. Dave . __________________ "Changes in Lattitudes, Changes in Attitudes, Nothing remains quite the same".... www.nobubblediving.com
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2nd February 2008, 06:01	#7 (permalink)
kybrt too legit to quit Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Neuw Yawk Posts: 338	Re: The Golem BOV Project hey guys.... any change in the loop hose weights? im about to make this leap myself. thanks __________________ Marv Fidelis Ad Mortem www.diveboatkaren.com
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2nd February 2008, 06:57	#8 (permalink)
Stephane Stéphane Acounis Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Nantes - France Posts: 773	Re: The Golem BOV Project Hi Marv, No, the Golem BOV is quite neutral in the water. __________________ Stéphane
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2nd February 2008, 09:47	#9 (permalink)
Dave Sutton Diveshop of Horrors Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island and Hackettstown, New Jersey Posts: 2,689	Re: The Golem BOV Project And the KISS one is perfect if you remove the weights completely. I'd prefer a Golem though if buying new. Actually, I like the looks of the Pelagian, but.... have a KISS. Dave . __________________ "Changes in Lattitudes, Changes in Attitudes, Nothing remains quite the same".... www.nobubblediving.com
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2nd February 2008, 18:19	#10 (permalink)
Tyler S. rEject Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 232	Re: The Golem BOV Project Well, I broke the SS mount for my HUD by trying to bend it. But in doing so I found a cool way to remounbt it using the broken piece. Ill post pics later to show you can it actually makes then sit lower so they are not blocking your vision as much
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