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harness??one piece or more

ok so i know im not supposed to modify the unit til at least fifty hours

but.........................

how many of you guys are diving the multiple piece dive rite type harness? and how many have a one piece like a classic harness?

im so used to the one piece type harness and how it fits the same way every time. i dont know if i can go back to the adjustable type like on a rec bc, fiddling every time with the shoulders.

anyone have any input here?

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Re: harness??one piece or more

Hello Marv,

I used to have a one-piece harness but went to the multi-piece one due to back surgery: I find it much more easier to take off the rig by opening one side.

The webbing is not adjustable like on a standard BC, you'll have to move the D-rings. Once adjusted to you size, it won't move.
More than that, adjusting it is a little bit a pain in the a... so you won't do it every morning!

Please have a look at the rEvo2 manual, you'll see pictures (page 11): http://www.revo-rebreathers.com/Manu...n%20022007.pdf

Edit: on the rEvo1, I have a real backplate so I can put any type oh harness I want. The harness I have now comes from a rEvo2 diver that wanted a single-piece type one. As Mark notes, it depends very much on how you feel comfortable.
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Re: harness??one piece or more

Hi Marv,

I have replaced the Dive Rite Deluxe harness that comes with the rEvo with a Deep Outdoors Matrix Freedom harness. The DR harness has D-rings for the shoulder straps and a chest strap to keep the shoulder straps in front. This harness works but can be a little difficult to get out of; however, if you are used to diving a BP setup with single webbing harness then you will find it to be very similar - I had no issues with it but I'm used to a BP setup with single webbing harness. I personally prefer having my straps follow around my shoulder to my back, as in a single webbing harness, so I didn't use the chest strap on the DR harness when I tried it.

On the DO harness, I don't use the chest strap either. This keeps the shoulder strap around the shoulder and to the side and also keeps the D-ring more to the side. This is where I like to clip off my stages so they are not sitting in front of me but to the side. The one thing I like about the DO harness is that it does have the quick releases for getting out of the rig MUCH easier, and although it does have adjustability, the DO harness uses thicker webbing so that the adjustments do not change unless you want to adjust it. In other words, once adjusted it stays in that position very well, no fiddling with the adjustments.

This harness works well for me but I'm sure there are others out there that will work just as well.
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Re: harness??one piece or more

I've used a "Transpac like" harness, and after a single piece harness, and now I've add a buckle on the right shoulder, cause it's easier to done and dof.
It seems to be perfect... at this time !
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VERY HAPPY with exactly what it came with....

Try before changing.


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Re: harness??one piece or more

just an update i have the traditional harness on the unit and am happy w/ it. i didnt realize that it doesnt have buckles or adjustments, you rig it once and maybe adjust a little but other wise thats it unless you change suits, like dry vs wet.
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Re: harness??one piece or more

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VERY HAPPY with exactly what it came with....

Try before changing.


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Yes but when the team that was in San Diego who bought all those rEvos were Deep Outdoors owner, employees and enthusiasts the DR harness was a bit poorly planned IMHO.

It would serve Paul / rEvo well to ditch the dive rite harness and have one made specific for the unit. Then it will be a reVo harness. You get my point I am sure.

Using off the shelf stuff for alphas and betas are fine but production models should either NOT come with harness / wing or come with the "house" product provided it is quality.

Just my 2 cents ....... worth half on the other side of the pond now.

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Yes but when the team that was in San Diego who bought all those rEvos were Deep Outdoors owner, employees and enthusiasts the DR harness was a bit poorly planned IMHO.

It would serve Paul / rEvo well to ditch the dive rite harness and have one made specific for the unit. Then it will be a reVo harness. You get my point I am sure.

Using off the shelf stuff for alphas and betas are fine but production models should either NOT come with harness / wing or come with the "house" product provided it is quality.
Joel,

The standard harness is rEvo-specific. It's also quite good.
The DR option is just that, an option.

That said, I'd like to see more harness options,
or at least more standard holes in the backplate(s) . . .

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Re: harness??one piece or more

The backplate is certainly very specific to the rEvo II and it works very well due to the adjustability of the split backplate, and for keeping the rEvo close to your back.

The harness is a harness - although some do have nice features. There seems to be quite a few people who use single webbing (Hogarthian), others use the DR deluxe harness, still others use the DR transplate harness. I don't know if there is such a thing as a rEvo-specific harness ... just diver-specific harnesses. In other words, use what you works for you and what you feel comfortable with.
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That said, I'd like to see more harness options

Just order it without one, and add what you like. The backplate will accept anything. The only caveat is to NOT remove and replace the existing split backplate, as it's *exactly right* and anything else will stand the rig off the divers back too far.

The stock harness can become a "House" harness... we'll just rip open the DR bags, dump the lot into a "Plain White Box", and call it a "rEvo Harness"...... . Webbing, Buckles, Sliders, and D-Rings are just parts. It's just easier to buy them pre-bagged than to assemble them from scratch. I don't think there is a DR logo anywhere to be found... maybe on the buckle. Quality is fine. If Deep Outdoors ends up ordering a dozen rigs, my bet is that they will order them sans-harness and add their own. They could have arranged that in advance of the rigs that came to San Diego but did not, so........... What are ya gonna do?

Really, we're talking about a US$57 harness. My suggestion for a new rEvo owner is to take the harness, use it in training, and not to reinvent the wheel for the first exposure to the rig. Otherwise it becomes a nightmare for instructor to get the rigs all set up, makes for dissimilar rigs in the course, and really provides no advantage. After you get it home, feel free to play. Toss the webbing into a box, re-use the D-Rings and sliders, and do your thing.



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