Rouse Memorial Plaque Missing

Lancer4545 · 5th November 2007, 19:24

Quote: (Originally Posted by Sutty)

I'd be glad to contribute too.

You have my donation.........

Great plan guys....

Lance

Lab Rat · 5th November 2007, 23:16

I solo'd out to the Berman Room at 3400' and through the Hinkle Sun AM and can confirm they are indeed gone. On a more positive note, I was told by a reliable source at DEMA that both plaques had been removed by well known divers and are due to be replaced in a more secure location soon, with interested parties being informed of the new location. I do not know the names of the divers involved, but will attempt to find out what is really going on.

There have been many thefts in recent years, including other memorials...so this is not out of the realm of possibility. Friends were supposed to make dives today looking for other memorials in more obscure locations to confirm they are still in place.

More to follow.

Richard

JS1scuba · 5th November 2007, 23:43

Quote: (Originally Posted by Lab Rat)

I solo'd out to the Berman Room at 3400' and through the Hinkle Sun AM and can confirm they are indeed gone. On a more positive note, I was told by a reliable source at DEMA that both plaques had been removed by well known divers and are due to be replaced in a more secure location soon, with interested parties being informed of the new location. I do not know the names of the divers involved, but will attempt to find out what is really going on.

There have been many thefts in recent years, including other memorials...so this is not out of the realm of possibility. Friends were supposed to make dives today looking for other memorials in more obscure locations to confirm they are still in place.

More to follow.

Richard

Richard,

Thanks for the info. Evie heads to Truk this week and will be out of the loop for a few weeks. Maybe you can have these guys get in touch with me.

Thanks
Joel

John Rawlings · 6th November 2007, 14:22

Quote: (Originally Posted by Lab Rat)

On a more positive note, I was told by a reliable source at DEMA that both plaques had been removed by well known divers and are due to be replaced in a more secure location soon, with interested parties being informed of the new location. I do not know the names of the divers involved, but will attempt to find out what is really going on.

While I earnestly HOPE that you are correct, this doesn't really seem plausible to me. If "well known divers" with good intentions were planning on doing this, wouldn't both common sense and decency tell them that before removing/relocating the plaques they should at the very least discuss it with the bereaved widow and mother, as well as the team that originally put the plaque in place? You simply don't just relocate memorial markers on a whim.

Again, I hope that your information is accurate and we can all be happy when everything is cleared up....but if I were a family member left in the dark about this "project" I'd be royally furious.

- John

Lab Rat · 6th November 2007, 22:01

Quote: (Originally Posted by John Rawlings)

While I earnestly HOPE that you are correct, this doesn't really seem plausible to me. If "well known divers" with good intentions were planning on doing this, wouldn't both common sense and decency tell them that before removing/relocating the plaques they should at the very least discuss it with the bereaved widow and mother, as well as the team that originally put the plaque in place? You simply don't just relocate memorial markers on a whim.

Again, I hope that your information is accurate and we can all be happy when everything is cleared up....but if I were a family member left in the dark about this "project" I'd be royally furious.

- John

Agreed. Seems like poor execution of the plan...for now, I am waiting to hear if this is/was the case or if they have been stolen.

You will all know more as soon as I do.

Richard

Jordan · 11th November 2007, 00:22

Just got a phone call from The Ginnie Ranger....the Rouse memorial is back where it belongs!!!!!

Lab Rat · 11th November 2007, 00:27

Looks like Jordan beat me to it here!

Happy to report that the Rouse Memorial is back in place, per real-time intel from NFL.

Friends were diving to search the back of the cave for areas it might have been stashed and were surprised to find it back in place during their dive.

No info available on the other two missing plaques...yet.

Richard

narked at 90 · 11th November 2007, 00:50

this is great news, i just hope the people who took it feel suitably ashamed for taking it with the consent of the family.
regards john routley

JS1scuba · 11th November 2007, 01:14

OUTSTANDING -- thanks guys for staying on top of this. I've dispatched a message to Evie that it's been put back in place.

Thanks again for all your support on this.

Cheers

Jordan · 11th November 2007, 04:01

Yo officer Joel,
As per our phone call, sorry I am unable to ID the perp. Trust me, if I knew who it was, I would post their name on all of the forums so that everyone would know who it was.

5th November 2007, 19:24	#21 (permalink)
Lancer4545 Closed Circuit Divers Aus Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cairns QLD Australia Posts: 664	Re: Rouse Memorial Plaque Missing Quote: (Originally Posted by Sutty) I'd be glad to contribute too. You have my donation......... Great plan guys.... Lance __________________ You can run but you can't hide! ISC Appointed Megalodon Dealer for East Australia http://www.closedcircuitdivers.com.au info@closedcircuitdivers.com.au
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5th November 2007, 23:16	#22 (permalink)
Lab Rat New Member Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Birmingham, AL, USA Posts: 14	Re: Rouse Memorial Plaque Missing I solo'd out to the Berman Room at 3400' and through the Hinkle Sun AM and can confirm they are indeed gone. On a more positive note, I was told by a reliable source at DEMA that both plaques had been removed by well known divers and are due to be replaced in a more secure location soon, with interested parties being informed of the new location. I do not know the names of the divers involved, but will attempt to find out what is really going on. There have been many thefts in recent years, including other memorials...so this is not out of the realm of possibility. Friends were supposed to make dives today looking for other memorials in more obscure locations to confirm they are still in place. More to follow. Richard
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5th November 2007, 23:43	#23 (permalink)
JS1scuba RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Lake Havasu City, AZ - USA Posts: 514	Re: Rouse Memorial Plaque Missing Quote: (Originally Posted by Lab Rat) I solo'd out to the Berman Room at 3400' and through the Hinkle Sun AM and can confirm they are indeed gone. On a more positive note, I was told by a reliable source at DEMA that both plaques had been removed by well known divers and are due to be replaced in a more secure location soon, with interested parties being informed of the new location. I do not know the names of the divers involved, but will attempt to find out what is really going on. There have been many thefts in recent years, including other memorials...so this is not out of the realm of possibility. Friends were supposed to make dives today looking for other memorials in more obscure locations to confirm they are still in place. More to follow. Richard Richard, Thanks for the info. Evie heads to Truk this week and will be out of the loop for a few weeks. Maybe you can have these guys get in touch with me. Thanks Joel
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6th November 2007, 14:22	#24 (permalink)
John Rawlings New Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Pacific Northwest USA Posts: 92	Re: Rouse Memorial Plaque Missing Quote: (Originally Posted by Lab Rat) On a more positive note, I was told by a reliable source at DEMA that both plaques had been removed by well known divers and are due to be replaced in a more secure location soon, with interested parties being informed of the new location. I do not know the names of the divers involved, but will attempt to find out what is really going on. While I earnestly HOPE that you are correct, this doesn't really seem plausible to me. If "well known divers" with good intentions were planning on doing this, wouldn't both common sense and decency tell them that before removing/relocating the plaques they should at the very least discuss it with the bereaved widow and mother, as well as the team that originally put the plaque in place? You simply don't just relocate memorial markers on a whim. Again, I hope that your information is accurate and we can all be happy when everything is cleared up....but if I were a family member left in the dark about this "project" I'd be royally furious. - John
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6th November 2007, 22:01	#25 (permalink)
Lab Rat New Member Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Birmingham, AL, USA Posts: 14	Re: Rouse Memorial Plaque Missing Quote: (Originally Posted by John Rawlings) While I earnestly HOPE that you are correct, this doesn't really seem plausible to me. If "well known divers" with good intentions were planning on doing this, wouldn't both common sense and decency tell them that before removing/relocating the plaques they should at the very least discuss it with the bereaved widow and mother, as well as the team that originally put the plaque in place? You simply don't just relocate memorial markers on a whim. Again, I hope that your information is accurate and we can all be happy when everything is cleared up....but if I were a family member left in the dark about this "project" I'd be royally furious. - John Agreed. Seems like poor execution of the plan...for now, I am waiting to hear if this is/was the case or if they have been stolen. You will all know more as soon as I do. Richard
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11th November 2007, 00:22	#26 (permalink)
Jordan EBT called me stroppy! Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Garner, NC Posts: 226	Re: Rouse Memorial Plaque Missing Just got a phone call from The Ginnie Ranger....the Rouse memorial is back where it belongs!!!!! __________________ Is it clear? No. Well, let's go anyways. "Those who would sacrifice a little freedom for a little order, will lose both, and deserve neither." Thomas Jefferson
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11th November 2007, 00:27	#27 (permalink)
Lab Rat New Member Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Birmingham, AL, USA Posts: 14	Re: Rouse Memorial Plaque Missing Looks like Jordan beat me to it here! Happy to report that the Rouse Memorial is back in place, per real-time intel from NFL. Friends were diving to search the back of the cave for areas it might have been stashed and were surprised to find it back in place during their dive. No info available on the other two missing plaques...yet. Richard
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11th November 2007, 00:50	#28 (permalink)
narked at 90 John Routley Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: middlands uk Posts: 1,029	Re: Rouse Memorial Plaque Missing this is great news, i just hope the people who took it feel suitably ashamed for taking it with the consent of the family. regards john routley __________________ CHECK OUT OUR INTERWEBS FOR CUSTOM REBREATHER UPGRADES *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *WWW.GRPSERVICES.COM*
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11th November 2007, 01:14	#29 (permalink)
JS1scuba RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Lake Havasu City, AZ - USA Posts: 514	Re: Rouse Memorial Plaque Missing OUTSTANDING -- thanks guys for staying on top of this. I've dispatched a message to Evie that it's been put back in place. Thanks again for all your support on this. Cheers __________________ Joel Silverstein, VP COO Tech Diving Limited a Division of Scuba Training and Technology Inc. http://www.nautilusdiveplanner.com http://www.nobubblediving.com
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11th November 2007, 04:01	#30 (permalink)
Jordan EBT called me stroppy! Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Garner, NC Posts: 226	Re: Rouse Memorial Plaque Missing Yo officer Joel, As per our phone call, sorry I am unable to ID the perp. Trust me, if I knew who it was, I would post their name on all of the forums so that everyone would know who it was. __________________ Is it clear? No. Well, let's go anyways. "Those who would sacrifice a little freedom for a little order, will lose both, and deserve neither." Thomas Jefferson
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